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Post by barnabaslives on May 4, 2016 6:08:04 GMT
Excellent audio... Intriguing story and fun, too. This one made me glad it wasn't a full cast for once - great to see the spotlight on Andy, and I think James Goss and Tom Price made excellent use of the opportunity. Was always hoping Andy might get invited into Torchwood although I have no idea what he's really gotten himself into since it involves David Warner (who was of course a fantastic cast addition here). Dunno if I believe it's entirely coincidence to have Graceless cast appear as The Graces here but I do find that (and the ensuing confusion) somewhat amusing, and a rousing enough rendition it were so in my view it's come out in the end to be a lovely little touch to an already very enjoyable tale.
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Post by acousticwolf on May 4, 2016 9:49:35 GMT
That was very enjoyable and sets up another aspect of Torchwood/The Committee very nicely - plenty of scope to expand on Andy and Norton. Overall I have enjoyed the first 2 series and with only 3 left to go, I assume we'll have news of series 3 soon?
Cheers
Tony
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Post by omega on May 5, 2016 2:03:20 GMT
I wonder if Gwen was ever aware of the events of the story, and if Norton was only invoking her name to get Andy on side.
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Post by Zagreus on May 5, 2016 3:21:47 GMT
Well Andy did send her that voicemail at the end, so...
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 5, 2016 9:54:51 GMT
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Post by Ela on May 9, 2016 4:24:22 GMT
Well, that was interesting. I had a hard time following what exactly was going on the first time through. The second listen is making more sense.
I have to say I was taken aback to hear that "of course we had photocopiers" in 1953. Although photocopying was invented by then, there were no commercial photocopy machines till 1958, and even in the early 1960s, which is as far back as I can remember, they were few and far between. People were still using carbon paper and mimeograph machines to make copies. I don't remember ever seeing a photocopier till the mid to late 1960s, when I visited the office where my mother worked.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 9:06:38 GMT
I have to say I was taken aback to hear that "of course we had photocopiers" in 1953. Although photocopying was invented by then, there were no commercial photocopy machines till 1958, and even in the early 1960s, which is as far back as I can remember, they were few and far between. People were still using carbon paper and mimeograph machines to make copies. I don't remember ever seeing a photocopier till the mid to late 1960s, when I visited the office where my mother worked. Ah, but Norton works for Torchwood... would be very odd if they had technology that could project that decades into the future, but couldn't duplicate documents somehow!
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Post by omega on May 9, 2016 9:35:22 GMT
I have to say I was taken aback to hear that "of course we had photocopiers" in 1953. Although photocopying was invented by then, there were no commercial photocopy machines till 1958, and even in the early 1960s, which is as far back as I can remember, they were few and far between. People were still using carbon paper and mimeograph machines to make copies. I don't remember ever seeing a photocopier till the mid to late 1960s, when I visited the office where my mother worked. Ah, but Norton works for Torchwood... would be very odd if they had technology that could project that decades into the future, but couldn't duplicate documents somehow! What if the ink turns out to be alien, or sentient? Writing that literally changes on the page in front of you!
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Post by Ela on May 9, 2016 13:39:13 GMT
I have to say I was taken aback to hear that "of course we had photocopiers" in 1953. Although photocopying was invented by then, there were no commercial photocopy machines till 1958, and even in the early 1960s, which is as far back as I can remember, they were few and far between. People were still using carbon paper and mimeograph machines to make copies. I don't remember ever seeing a photocopier till the mid to late 1960s, when I visited the office where my mother worked. Ah, but Norton works for Torchwood... would be very odd if they had technology that could project that decades into the future, but couldn't duplicate documents somehow! I knew you would say that. He says he works for Torchwood. Based on how the story ended, I'm not convinced that he does. And even if he is part of Torchwood and has that technology because he's Torchwood or alien or whatever, it still would not merit an " of course!" I doubt most people even knew what a photocopier was in 1953. Admit it, you've fallen into an anachronism.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 13:47:48 GMT
Ah, but Norton works for Torchwood... would be very odd if they had technology that could project that decades into the future, but couldn't duplicate documents somehow! I knew you would say that. He says he works for Torchwood. Based on how the story ended, I'm not convinced that he does. And even if he is part of Torchwood and has that technology because he's Torchwood or alien or whatever, it still would not merit an " of course!" I doubt most people even knew what a photocopier was in 1953. Admit it, you've fallen into an anachronism. Norton says a lot of things that are dubious... if you're not trusting him... well, we've done our job.
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Post by Ela on May 9, 2016 16:43:16 GMT
I knew you would say that. He says he works for Torchwood. Based on how the story ended, I'm not convinced that he does. And even if he is part of Torchwood and has that technology because he's Torchwood or alien or whatever, it still would not merit an " of course!" I doubt most people even knew what a photocopier was in 1953. Admit it, you've fallen into an anachronism. Norton says a lot of things that are dubious... if you're not trusting him... well, we've done our job. Ha! Okay, I can accept that.
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Post by icecreamdf on May 10, 2016 21:02:13 GMT
Given what Tosh learned last month, I think it is entirely possible that Norton works for both Torchwood and the Committee. The 1950s may have been when Torchwood called them in, and the two organizations were working together on something.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 3, 2016 21:49:48 GMT
I caught up and listened to Ghost Mission & Zone 10 pretty much back to back. I liked Zone 10 a lot but loved Ghost Mission. What a great double act Andy & Norton formed. So good I think Robert Holmes would have been impressed. More of the two of them and soon please. The thing which really struck me doing a double feature with these two releases is how well the authors, David Llewellyn with Zone 10 and James Goss with Ghost Mission, and the Torchwood audio series in general, does with the small casts. Like the best of the Dark Shadows audio readings, Torchwood on audio takes limited resources and opens things up so that the productions seem much larger than they are. The scale of the stories they are telling are very much wide screen affairs but they always remain very personal. It is a difficult balancing act but Goss, Handcock & company have done an excellent job maintaining it. Well done. To be very honest, Torchwood on TV was always a mixed bag to me. It was very often too much of what I didn't want to see and not enough of the things which interested me, so it is with great surprise that I say I think Torchwood has turned into one of my favorite Big Finish ranges.
Oh and David Warner as well? You guys are spoiling us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 17:08:39 GMT
I'll be honest, I wasn't particularly looking forward to this one. I like Andy well enough on the show, but he's one of those characters that was always there to fulfil a function, rather than ever standing out in any way on his own. Nor did he reek of untapped potential, particularly. But I have to say, not only did Andy easily carry his own adventure (in combination with the equally entertaining Norton), but the story itself is easily my favourite of series 2 thus far. And given the generally high standard of BF's Torchwood line thus far, that's no small praise in my book.
With its small casts, Torchwood was up against it a little bit, given that the fans understandably really want to hear the whole team together (and the upcoming special release will scratch that itch a bit - at least for series 3 fans), but it shouldn't be undersold that what we have been getting is equivalent to the stronger Companion Chronicles or Liberator Chronicles releases, which, with their tighter focus on a given cast member gifts us with stories that we'd never get otherwise. And more often than not, first class stories at that.
If we ever reach a point where full cast Torchwood stories become the norm, I hope that these single character focussed pieces still have a place in the lineup as well, as again, much like the Companion Chronicles and the Liberator Chronicles, they really do deliver something unique and worthwhile, and that's worth holding on to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 7:19:47 GMT
The "Daddy or chips" line made me laugh out loud. As nice as it is to cater for all audiences, I do love random lines that play only to UK audiences.
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Post by Ela on Jan 5, 2017 20:22:09 GMT
I relistened to Ghost Mission today. Can I just say I really REALLY love Norton? And Norton and Andy together are fantastic. Hope we got more like this.
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Post by elkawho on Jan 6, 2017 3:05:02 GMT
I relistened to Ghost Mission today. Can I just say I really REALLY love Norton? And Norton and Andy together are fantastic. Hope we got more like this. I completely agree. Norton's great. I hope we get more of him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 5:55:40 GMT
I relistened to Ghost Mission today. Can I just say I really REALLY love Norton? And Norton and Andy together are fantastic. Hope we got more like this. Torchwood One: 50 Shades of Norton 4 Full Cast 1 Hour Episodes Featuring Samuel Barnett as Norton Folgate
Flying High by Scott Handcock Future Gamble by James Goss American Werewolf by Joesph Lidster Pair of Kings by Guy Adams
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Post by Ela on Jul 16, 2017 6:48:37 GMT
50 Shades of Norton. I love it.
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Post by Zagreus on Jul 19, 2017 22:57:06 GMT
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Norton's bloody brilliant. I love him. I want more with him. Yes I know he's in The Archive and Outbreak, but, nope, more! MORE!!!
Do Norton's cryptic hints at the end mean that The Committee finally succeeded in taking over The Evolved, as they're now using their body hopping technologies? Which, really, has some implications for Jack. Come to think of it, are The Committee actually overseeing Torchwood at the moment? Did Jack cut a deal?
Speaking of The Archive, Mr Colchester goes to check on The Committee in the old folks home. This presumably means that Gwen or someone sat down with Andy and took an account of what happened, and apparently now knows where The Committee operates out of.
What was the other name that Norton gave Object One beyond The Red Key and The Bad Penny? The "Cylus Oblist"? Or something like that? Is that a reference to something?
Norton name-checks Quatermass, which presumably means he's from the latter half of 1953.
God I hope Norton's going to be in Aliens Among Us.
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