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Post by Superium on Jul 13, 2019 9:17:40 GMT
I've said this before, but I want to elaborate: - I have a fondness for Dimensions In Time. Yes, I know it's not objectively good and yes, there are problems with it, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't enjoyable to watch. The problem I have is that some people just can't turn their brains off for a few minutes and just enjoy it. It's definitely not the next Five Doctors, but if you're looking for a few laughs and want to have a good time, this would be a good choice.
P.S. The theme is ACE
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Post by mark687 on Jul 13, 2019 11:56:56 GMT
I've said this before, but I want to elaborate: - I have a fondness for Dimensions In Time. Yes, I know it's not objectively good and yes, there are problems with it, but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't enjoyable to watch. The problem I have is that some people just can't turn their brains off for a few minutes and just enjoy it. It's definitely not the next Five Doctors, but if you're looking for a few laughs and want to have a good time, this would be a good choice. P.S. The theme is ACEI've re-watched this a couple of times on YouTube and it is bearable, the only bit that doesn't work is Romana and the Mitchell Brothers, she looks bored as sin, and they don't seem to be willing to go with the flow, but frustratingly if they'd've put the 3rd and Bessie in the Arches that's potentially comedy gold.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jul 13, 2019 17:55:10 GMT
Moffat was and is the most consistent show runner and had the best put together era.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 1:38:42 GMT
[...] P.S. The theme is ACEAnd there's more where that came from. A pair of composers, Adrian Pack and Michael Fillis (collectively known as Cybertech), were the chaps behind it. They did the theme tune for Dimensions and the Loose Cannon reconstructions. If you can track down the two albums they did, it's well worth it, there are atmospheric homages to various Who composers. The second one, Pharos, does incidental music for stories that never were and has little spoken word sections from Jon Pertwee, Sophie Aldred, Sylvester McCoy, Mark Gatiss and Caroline John. Based on the strength of their work, if the show had come back from cancellation just a few years after, I reckon they could've taken up the mantle of the Radiophonic Workshop.
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Post by Superium on Jul 19, 2019 20:11:01 GMT
Time Crash has been the only multi-doctor story in New Who that I've enjoyed thus far.
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Post by Superium on Jul 27, 2019 20:30:53 GMT
- School Reunion is average, at best.
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Post by Hieronymus on Jul 29, 2019 1:27:03 GMT
Handles was {Spoiler} the Brigadier's head after he became the Cyber-Brig.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 29, 2019 12:53:22 GMT
Handles was {Spoiler} the Brigadier's head after he became the Cyber-Brig.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jul 29, 2019 18:44:13 GMT
Handles was {Spoiler} the Brigadier's head after he became the Cyber-Brig. Nah, now you're just being odd LOL. That would mean {Spoiler} 11 already knew it was possible he could survive into a new regeneration, plus the existence of Missy and so on.
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Post by Hieronymus on Jul 29, 2019 18:55:32 GMT
Handles was {Spoiler} the Brigadier's head after he became the Cyber-Brig. Nah, now you're just being odd LOL. That would mean... Not if Handles didn't tell him.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jul 30, 2019 2:24:23 GMT
Nah, now you're just being odd LOL. That would mean... Not if Handles didn't tell him. Him not telling him would be VERY odd.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 10:53:46 GMT
I'm not sure this observation fits on this thread, but I'll see how it goes.
The 12 Doctor is a favourite of mine. Peter Capaldi could inject so much depth into one single line of dialogue, he will always be one of the most underrated incarnations in my view.
However, his 'be kind' schtick always rankles with me. Whilst telling people to 'be kind' is a noble sentiment, The 12th Doctor was one of the most superficially unkind incarnations of the lot. Only the episode before, he addressed someone he didn't know as "You there. You, with the awful hair." Now that's not very kind, is it!
If the Fifth Doctor had told me to be kind, for example, I'd have taken it. With the 12th, I'd have been given to reply, "Practice what you preach, mate!"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 11:30:23 GMT
I'm not sure this observation fits on this thread, but I'll see how it goes.
The 12 Doctor is a favourite of mine. Peter Capaldi could inject so much depth into one single line of dialogue, he will always be one of the most underrated incarnations in my view.
However, his 'be kind' schtick always rankles with me. Whilst telling people to 'be kind' is a noble sentiment, The 12th Doctor was one of the most superficially unkind incarnations of the lot. Only the episode before, he addressed someone he didn't know as "You there. You, with the awful hair." Now that's not very kind, is it!
If the Fifth Doctor had told me to be kind, for example, I'd have taken it. With the 12th, I'd have been given to reply, "Practice what you preach, mate!"
I think the answer I'd give to that is he's not talking about kindness and politeness being the same thing as you are. In his speech as he's dying he explicitly says "Always try, to be nice but never fail to be kind" - so he's making a distinction between insulting someone's hair (niceness) and kindness, which I take to be what he does in intervening to help people, wherever he can. Moffat writing those traits as separate goals suggests he's probably thinking something along those lines too. He may not be "nice" when he's saving the day (though he reminds himself to try more next time) but he keeps the kindness distinct from niceties. The kindness is helping when he has absolutely no reason to bar it being the right think to do. I think it ties in very well with his "Am I a good man?" arc from Series 8. He may not be a nice man, always, but he tries to be a good one when it counts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 12:46:10 GMT
I'm not sure this observation fits on this thread, but I'll see how it goes.
The 12 Doctor is a favourite of mine. Peter Capaldi could inject so much depth into one single line of dialogue, he will always be one of the most underrated incarnations in my view.
However, his 'be kind' schtick always rankles with me. Whilst telling people to 'be kind' is a noble sentiment, The 12th Doctor was one of the most superficially unkind incarnations of the lot. Only the episode before, he addressed someone he didn't know as "You there. You, with the awful hair." Now that's not very kind, is it!
If the Fifth Doctor had told me to be kind, for example, I'd have taken it. With the 12th, I'd have been given to reply, "Practice what you preach, mate!"
Yep. & for me it's a good example of one of my main problems with this terrible Dr. The writers don't know how to write for him or what his character is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 13:11:40 GMT
Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it.
While I love the idea of Capaldi's Doctor being complex and fighting against his own stern nature, I still feel there is no consistency there and the character becomes a bit of a contradiction unless the viewer is prepared to invest in him a somewhat forgiving nature. Niceness and kindness are not mutually exclusive, so for him to not always be nice, but to preach about kindness goes some way to being ... not hypocritical, but ill-advised. I like the complexity, but I'm not sure it convinces me.
l still love Capaldi's Doctor and continue to miss him very much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 15:00:08 GMT
Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it.
While I love the idea of Capaldi's Doctor being complex and fighting against his own stern nature, I still feel there is no consistency there and the character becomes a bit of a contradiction unless the viewer is prepared to invest in him a somewhat forgiving nature. Niceness and kindness are not mutually exclusive, so for him to not always be nice, but to preach about kindness goes some way to being ... not hypocritical, but ill-advised. I like the complexity, but I'm not sure it convinces me.
l still love Capaldi's Doctor and continue to miss him very much. Well, for him I think they are, hence saying so in his dying words. He's offering advice to his next self, it's not necessarily saying "this is what I've been like", what's he's done with his life, but what he aspired to and maybe didn't get to. Like Clara having to write out the cards for him in S9 to show a bit of empathy, I think there's always been subtext that this Doctor knows he's not the people person he often is. I mean Clara "I'm his carer" Doctor "Yeah, she cares so I don't have to". Yeah...it looks rude, sounds rude.....but ultimately he does care as he sticks around to save as many people as he can when he could have buggered off if he didn't care. I think part of the problem is audience feedback made sure that his Doc gets less alien each year without us seeing too much gradual change. It's quite noticeable between S8 and S9 - and even moreso between 9 and 10. Some of the lines and actions of S8 "He was dead already, I was saving us" (Into The Dalek) and "Lie to her, give her hope, she'll come easier that way" (Mummy On The Orient Express) I really don't think we'd have seen in S10.
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Post by Superium on Aug 2, 2019 15:06:35 GMT
Smile and Empress of Mars are underrated gems.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 2, 2019 15:26:41 GMT
Smile and Empress of Mars are underrated gems.
Yes Agreed
Empress is note perfect Fan Service.
Smile solidifies the best Doc/Companion dynamic for at the time of Broadcast, the past 9 Years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 2:30:11 GMT
Smile and Empress of Mars are underrated gems.
Yes Agreed
Empress is note perfect Fan Service.
Smile solidifies the best Doc/Companion dynamic for at the time of Broadcast, the past 9 Years.
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And Empress is a lovely little homage to H.G. Wells's The First Men in the Moon, to boot. It's presently my favourite of the NuWho Ice Warrior stories.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 7:21:02 GMT
Yes Agreed
Empress is note perfect Fan Service.
Smile solidifies the best Doc/Companion dynamic for at the time of Broadcast, the past 9 Years.
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And Empress is a lovely little homage to H.G. Wells's The First Men in the Moon, to boot. It's presently my favourite of the NuWho Ice Warrior stories. Which is something Mark Gattis adapted for the BBC about 10 years ago, writing and starring alonside Rory Kinnear. Not as fun as the Edward Judd/Lionel Jeffries Harryhausen one but a good, solid effort.
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