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Post by ryan on Apr 12, 2016 20:03:45 GMT
Recently finished a rerun of 1-5 and listened to 6 for the first time. Took me a good couple of days to theorise what had been going on in Storm Mine. This series was one of the most rewarding listens I can remember.
Uvanov, Carnell, Cotton and Rull were particular highlights.
I was curious to hear others' views on the series.
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Post by glutamodo on Apr 13, 2016 4:17:56 GMT
I liked it, definitely worth listening to. Not sure if I ever really worked out everything that was going on though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 6:42:20 GMT
I loved it, it was very well-constructed from both a narrative and character standpoint, engaging to listen to from beginning to end and thoroughly rewarding upon re-listen. It's the definitive view of Kaldor City and all that transpired within it as far as I'm concerned. Not for one second does it talk down to its audience and it managed to be "adult" without being adolescent in its maturity. For fans of crossovers, it also has a psychostrategist from Blake's 7 called Carnell appear in it as well as a reference to Travis as the Butcher of Zircaster. Make of that what you will. My theory for Storm Mine was always that: Everyone by that stage in the game had been absorbed into the Fendahl gestalt and it was only Blayze and Iago who were still holding out against it.
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Post by glutamodo on Apr 13, 2016 7:37:20 GMT
Yes, finishing it did make me want to go back and re-listen. And I did, but kind of skipped around looking for certain scenes. I should do another complete listen-through at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 9:54:57 GMT
I'd definitely recommend it. There's a lot going on and you'll always discover something new buried beneath what you've already seen. To give you an idea, the ultimate fate of Kaldor City is foreshadowed in the first ten or twenty minutes of Occam's Razor.
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Post by gregm on Apr 13, 2016 9:56:54 GMT
Generally fantastic - though there are four extra pieces... Corpse Marker - Originally published by BBC as a Past Doctor's novel in 1999, it features the rise of Uvanov and his initial employment of Carnell. Written by Chris Boucher, it has recently been re-released by BBC books and as an audiobook read by David Collings. It precedes the Magic Bullet audios. The Prisoner - Iago in discussion with Landerchild, this appeared on MJTV's The Actor Speaks series in the Paul Darrow release. Performed by Paul Darrow and Peter Miles, it was released between Checkmate and Storm Mine. Skulduggery - Conflict between Landerchild and Uvanov comes to a head, in a scheme devised by Carnell. This was piblished in the charity anthology Shelf Life (benefiting charities selected by the family of the late Craig Hinton). The Shelf Life website is now dead, so no idea how you'd find this one other than staking out eBay! Metafiction - a download-only audio from Magic Bullet. Justina questions Iago on the orders he has received from Uvanov. It can be ordered from Magic Bullet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:12:36 GMT
In general terms I really liked all of the Kaldor City audio releases (including the two audio shorts), but if I has one quibble it would be that, for me, Storm Mine doesn't feel like a very satisfying ending to the saga. As both an individual story, and a piece of the saga, it works extremely well, but it just never left me with the feeling that Kaldor City had been fully told.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 25, 2016 22:59:01 GMT
Kale or City is tine nuked in the first moments of the Tine War by the Daleks and the Time Lords, because neither side wants the other getting their mits on the Fendahl.
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Post by lidar on Jun 28, 2016 13:57:46 GMT
Kaldor City is fantastic. If you choose to believe that Kaston Iago is a post-B7 Avon incognito, as I personally do, it is easily the best PGP story out there.
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Post by ljwilson on Oct 9, 2017 19:10:19 GMT
I've found all 6 of these in a shop....at £10 each which is cheap compared to eBay.
I may buy Occam's Razor and give it a try. They also seem to have all the Faction Paradox audios.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 4:48:59 GMT
I may buy Occam's Razor and give it a try. They also seem to have all the Faction Paradox audios. Worth getting for what might be the definitive depiction of the Osirian Court in its heyday. It's the only story I've encountered so far (I've yet to listen to The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield) that uses Sutekh and feels, rather incredibly, like a step up from Pyramids of Mars.
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Post by rran on Nov 23, 2017 5:16:08 GMT
I've managed to get hold of this and Faction Paradox. Waiting to listen
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 23, 2017 8:35:48 GMT
Skulduggery now published on the Kaldor City website for anyone who doesn't have it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 3:20:53 GMT
How do these work with the latest from Big Finish?
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 9, 2020 11:59:32 GMT
How do these work with the latest from Big Finish? They don't, they are 2 separate continuities.
I can only speak for myself, but I include Corpse Marker and Kaldor City within my personal Blake's 7 headcanon, whereas I include the various BF Kaldor-based stories in my personal Doctor Who headcanon and never the twain shall meet. It works for me.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 9, 2020 12:10:09 GMT
I loved it, it was very well-constructed from both a narrative and character standpoint, engaging to listen to from beginning to end and thoroughly rewarding upon re-listen. It's the definitive view of Kaldor City and all that transpired within it as far as I'm concerned. Not for one second does it talk down to its audience and it managed to be "adult" without being adolescent in its maturity. For fans of crossovers, it also has a psychostrategist from Blake's 7 called Carnell appear in it as well as a reference to Travis as the Butcher of Zircaster. Make of that what you will. My theory for Storm Mine was always that: Everyone by that stage in the game had been absorbed into the Fendahl gestalt and it was only Blayze and Iago who were still holding out against it. On Kaldor's Wikipedia page there is a link to an article by Dale Smith that Alan Stevens has implied explains Storm Mine
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaldor_City#Storm_Mine
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 12:32:35 GMT
I loved it, it was very well-constructed from both a narrative and character standpoint, engaging to listen to from beginning to end and thoroughly rewarding upon re-listen. It's the definitive view of Kaldor City and all that transpired within it as far as I'm concerned. Not for one second does it talk down to its audience and it managed to be "adult" without being adolescent in its maturity. For fans of crossovers, it also has a psychostrategist from Blake's 7 called Carnell appear in it as well as a reference to Travis as the Butcher of Zircaster. Make of that what you will. My theory for Storm Mine was always that: Everyone by that stage in the game had been absorbed into the Fendahl gestalt and it was only Blayze and Iago who were still holding out against it. On Kaldor's Wikipedia page there is a link to an article by Dale Smith that Alan Stevens has implied explains Storm Mine
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaldor_City#Storm_Mine *whistles* 2016... Four years is quite a long time, but I can still remember Storm Mine. Looking back on it now, I think one of the questions it prompts is what precisely qualifies as "life" vulnerable to the new status quo. Humanity is a pretty straightforward example, but that's only one half of the equation, the yin. The yang are Kaldor City's robot population. Hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of them, all in the midst of that change. V23 may be representative of their own efforts to recontextualise their existence. They are, after all, intended to serve humanity, whatever its shape.
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Post by constonks on Mar 9, 2020 19:18:38 GMT
How do these work with the latest from Big Finish? They don't, they are 2 separate continuities.
I can only speak for myself, but I include Corpse Marker and Kaldor City within my personal Blake's 7 headcanon, whereas I include the various BF Kaldor-based stories in my personal Doctor Who headcanon and never the twain shall meet. It works for me.
Haven't listened to either Kaldor-based series yet, but I know that The Sons of Kaldor definitely ignores Corpse Marker, as Leela has only met the Voc Robots once before.
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