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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 4:31:09 GMT
And this ladies, gentlemen and other identifiers, is how you virtually kill a fanbase's attempts at filmmaking. www.startrek.com/fan-films
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Post by omega on Jun 24, 2016 4:36:26 GMT
It really makes the BBC look reasonable during the Wilderness Years with things like Downtime. There is the fact that the two shows were made in different countries, where no doubt the rights individual writers hold are different.
Oh, and thank you for including us other identifiers. We can't all be ladies or gentlemen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 4:39:59 GMT
And this ladies, gentlemen and other identifiers, is how you virtually kill a fanbase's attempts at filmmaking. www.startrek.com/fan-filmsBut a few of those "fan films" were soliciting money from fans in the MILLIONS via crowdfunding. That's where it stops being a fan-film and becomes copyright infringement. They raised a lot more than they needed for, what was it called, Xanaxar (?) and made profitable revenues from advertising. That's completely against the ethos of fan-films. Tony Todd dropped out from it after, even though they got a small fortune on Kickstarter, they wanted to pay him scale and keep the cash to fund future films.
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Post by glutamodo on Jun 24, 2016 4:40:36 GMT
Ugh, yeah, I sure hope they don't slap that kind of restriction on fan-audios as well.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jun 24, 2016 4:43:25 GMT
I think its pretty fair. Fans can still make films for fun. They just can't make elaborate and expensive movies or shows with real Trek actors anymore. I never really understood why that was allowed in the first place.
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Post by relativetime on Jun 24, 2016 4:50:22 GMT
I wasn't really aware this was that big a problem to be honest, but I can see the perspective CBS is coming from. I'm not sure what this'll mean for productions like Star Trek Continues. What concerns me most is the time limit that they want imposed. I can't really see why that should be necessary and it seems a bit unfair.
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Post by Hieronymus on Jun 24, 2016 5:18:59 GMT
I wasn't really aware this was that big a problem to be honest, but I can see the perspective CBS is coming from. I'm not sure what this'll mean for productions like Star Trek Continues. What concerns me most is the time limit that they want imposed. I can't really see why that should be necessary and it seems a bit unfair. It will likely kill that series because of the 30 minute run-time limitation. However, that is the perfect length of time for animated episodes. [wink wink, nudge nudge] Although I'm sure if those became widespread and popular, CBS would stomp on those too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 7:53:41 GMT
But a few of those "fan films" were soliciting money from fans in the MILLIONS via crowdfunding. That's where it stops being a fan-film and becomes copyright infringement. They raised a lot more than they needed for, what was it called, Xanaxar (?) and made profitable revenues from advertising. That's completely against the ethos of fan-films. Tony Todd dropped out from it after, even though they got a small fortune on Kickstarter, they wanted to pay him scale and keep the cash to fund future films. I can only really name one to memory and that's Axanar, whom CBS and Paramount took to court in a lawsuit over the Klingon language that they later lost. The more I hear about that project the shadier it becomes, but this really does strike me as the kind of punishment where one group acts out, so an entire demographic are punished as a result. Production teams like Star Trek Continues, New Voyages, Renegades and others were very cordial and transparent with their funding process, however under these new guidelines I don't think they'll be able to continue producing any of their series.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 25, 2016 14:47:46 GMT
Weren't these Guidelines brought about after JJ Abrams stepped in on Axanar's side?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 0:41:13 GMT
Weren't these Guidelines brought about after JJ Abrams stepped in on Axanar's side? Good question. They were released on the Facebook official Trek pages roughly the time I posted it up here, so it's a distinct possibility. It'll be difficult to tell for a while with the rumour mill grinding so hot and Axanar still in litigation, but I think eventually there'll be a few additional hows and whys when the dust settles. On the plus side, it's not all doom and gloom. Star Trek Renegades will sever its ties to the brand and continue as an entirely original series called Renegades, so at least one series will be able to continue unscathed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 23:58:26 GMT
I watched Anaxar's prelude episode tonight. What a fantastic bit of Trek-lore. I was dying to see what comes next I love the format of the project being a mockumentary about the battles told later by the talking heads. Very novel. Tony Todd saying he's out is interesting as we know he's been lobbying to be no less than the Captain in Discovery, so he couldn't burn any bridges. I'll need to catch up with Trek Continues and Phase II.
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