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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jun 27, 2016 22:02:15 GMT
Now then,
In the run up to Sacrifice, let's do what we always do with regards to the prior two Holmes boxsets.... Discuss!
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Post by jarod on Jun 28, 2016 6:33:52 GMT
Ok - so what do I need to know from the two prior Holmes box sets to understand, appreciate and enjoy the new box set fully?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 9:40:20 GMT
Ok - so what do I need to know from the two prior Holmes box sets to understand, appreciate and enjoy the new box set fully? I recommend listening to Judgement right through as it sets up "The Society" (who will be the main villains in Sacrifice). Judgement also ends on a cliffhanger which seems to lead directly into Sacrifice. No episode may be skipped, either, as Judgement tells one story, split into four hour-long parts. It is as if each episode of Judgement is telling one quarter of the first part of a two-part story. Judgement was part one, Sacrifice will be part two. Ordeals can probably be skipped as it tells its own self-contained story, although the antagonist (Mrs Edgar Curbishley) returns for Sacrifice. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 9:42:40 GMT
How important does everyone think it is to listen to The Adventure of the Perfidious Mariner before the box sets? I think it's a useful (albeit standalone) introduction to Jonathan Barnes' trilogy of boxsets in that it sets up the idea that the stories will be happening after (and before) the Sherlock Holmes stories recorded by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
I haven't listened to it in a while, but I believe it tells the story of why Sherlock came (was willing to come?) out of retirement on his bee farm. That is, it is set at the earliest point after Doyle's stories end. This is then contrasted by the following story, The Guttering Candle, which tells of how Sherlock came to be known by the police, Lestrade in particular. (I don't recall when The Gamekeepers Folly, The Bermondsey Cutthroats, or the Sowers of Despair are set, though.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 9:47:31 GMT
In waiting for Sacrifice, I wonder how much reference will be made to Ordeals (given the return of Mrs Edgar Curbishley). Judgement has a cliffhanger that will lead directly into Sacrifice, but Ordeals tells its own self-contained story about the Poppies of Despair (or something like that).
I also wonder whether there will be any link between The Society (here) and The Committee (in the Torchwood range). Would Big Finish make that kind of reference to a completely different range in possibly a completely different universe?
(Also, sorry for three comments back-to-back).
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Post by omega on Jun 28, 2016 9:53:34 GMT
Another loose end from Ordeals, {Spoiler}
Will Thrale living on into the 21st century be picked up again? He checks into a hotel using key cards, indicating 21st century at least. Maybe he bumps into Dorian. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 28, 2016 22:41:47 GMT
Another loose end from Ordeals, {Spoiler}
Will Thrale living on into the 21st century be picked up again? He checks into a hotel using key cards, indicating 21st century at least. Maybe he bumps into Dorian. That's what I thought, or maybe black bagged by Torchwood or the Forge  |
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Post by ausir on Jun 30, 2016 7:49:22 GMT
How important does everyone think it is to listen to The Adventure of the Perfidious Mariner before the box sets? I think it's a useful (albeit standalone) introduction to Jonathan Barnes' trilogy of boxsets in that it sets up the idea that the stories will be happening after (and before) the Sherlock Holmes stories recorded by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. I haven't listened to it in a while, but I believe it tells the story of why Sherlock came (was willing to come?) out of retirement on his bee farm. That is, it is set at the earliest point after Doyle's stories end. This is then contrasted by the following story, The Guttering Candle, which tells of how Sherlock came to be known by the police, Lestrade in particular. (I don't recall when The Gamekeepers Folly, The Bermondsey Cutthroats, or the Sowers of Despair are set, though.) I'd say it's best to listen to "Perfidious Mariner" during "Ordeals", between "Bermondsey Cutthroat" and "Sowers of Despair". (and the Dorian crossover, "Ghosts of Christmas Past", is set between "Mariner" and "Sowers", and might actually connect to the Ordeals plot to some extent). |
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Post by Ela on Apr 4, 2022 17:16:53 GMT
Not much actual discussion here, I see. Mostly conjecture about the next box set. I enjoyed both The Ordeals and The Judgment of Sherlock Holmes, but I found the second of the box sets more engrossing. Very interesting stories and background. Sacrifice is up next in my listening queue. |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 8, 2023 16:57:41 GMT
Another loose end from Ordeals, {Spoiler}
Will Thrale living on into the 21st century be picked up again? He checks into a hotel using key cards, indicating 21st century at least. Maybe he bumps into Dorian. That's what I thought, or maybe black bagged by Torchwood or the Forge
I know it's terribly bad form to respond to a six-year old post, but I've just finished "Ordeals" and this is just the question I was wondering about - have either Barnes or BF done anything with this character in his new context?
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Post by The Brigadier on Jun 8, 2023 17:22:49 GMT
fitzoliverj - as far as I am aware the answer to your question is no, neither Barnes nor Big Finish have done anything with the character of Thrale. Mores the pity!
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 8, 2023 17:27:40 GMT
fitzoliverj - as far as I am aware the answer to your question is no, neither Barnes nor Big Finish have done anything with the character of Thrale. Mores the pity!
Shame. "Just imagine", I suppose...
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Post by fitzoliverj on Mar 2, 2024 15:57:21 GMT
Just reached the end of 'Sacrifice' {Spoiler}
I assume they haven't followed up on that ending, either? |
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