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Post by Zagreus on Aug 3, 2016 6:11:56 GMT
Yeah they'd become a nice little monthly dose of New Who, to tide us over while waiting for the larger box sets to drop. We've now had thirteen months of contiguous New Who releases. If you count the Eighth Doctor stuff (which I do, as at the very least River's in them these days), we'll have another three contiguous months before becoming more sporadic. They've hinted at a Series 3 of Torchwood releases, along with a Tenth Anniversary Torchwood special (that is separate from Outbreak), as well as that Jack & Jackie Tyler thing that has yet to be announced, so maybe those will help fill in some of those gaps. They do need to release the non-New Series stuff. November is a particularly full month, with four box sets scheduled for release. I don't envy the team at the warehouse who send off the CDs, they do a remarkable job considering the big workload. They are the true unsung heroes of Big Finish. I, in my own charts and lists, group Big Finish releases into three categories: The First Four Doctors, the Middle Four Doctors, and the New Series Doctors. And all their spinoffs grouped accordingly. In my ideal world, there would be at least one release per category each month, and preferably no more than six all combined.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 15:55:38 GMT
This is well upto the standard of the best audio Torchwood releases I've heard. Quite simply strong characters, well played, in an atmospheric, well-conveyed setting and a very good, frightening story. Top marks, I'd say.
The minimalist incidental music is also very effective.
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Post by Bazoolium on Aug 4, 2016 9:30:56 GMT
I liked this one, very creepy at the start. I wish they had done more audio trickery with the voice, moving it about. I suppose that was to show it weakening, but with headphone the constant moving about was very effective.
Perhaps not as creepy as I was expecting, but still up to the standard of the other excellent torchwood audios. I can't believe how consistently good they all are.
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Post by chapwithwings on Aug 6, 2016 18:45:36 GMT
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Post by kimalysong on Aug 10, 2016 23:07:47 GMT
Thought it was excellent very creepy, reminded me of some of the best X-Files episodes but I also loved that once again it offered excellent character drama in how we face the unknown and fear. And I especially loved the ending. I am not sure if this was the intention but I felt the ending was sort of metaphorical with us in Gwen's shoes also facing our own fears Gwen opening her eyes at the end and the audience not knowing if it was her real husband or another trick of the voice we are forced to face the unknown and try to understand what is happening. We are also never given the exact answer of what the Voice really is. Is it something that we continue to fear or do we open our eyes & try to understand like Gwen .
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Post by omega on Aug 11, 2016 0:00:57 GMT
Thought it was excellent very creepy, reminded me of some of the best X-Files episodes but I also loved that once again it offered excellent character drama in how we face the unknown and fear. And I especially loved the ending. I am not sure if this was the intention but I felt the ending was sort of metaphorical with us in Gwen's shoes also facing our own fears Gwen opening her eyes at the end and the audience not knowing if it was her real husband or another trick of the voice we are forced to face the unknown and try to understand what is happening. We are also never given the exact answer of what the Voice really is. Is it something that we continue to fear or do we open our eyes & try to understand like Gwen . One of the best traits of horror is the ambiguity. Has the situation been completely dealt with or are we still in danger? What was the menace? It works brilliantly in Midnight because we learn nothing about whatever is out there, or even if there was a creature. For all we know the true monster of that episode is the ugly side of human nature, selfish, judgmental and just plain nasty. It could swing either way. Knowledge is power, and the less we know the less power we hold over something, which makes the efforts to deal with it more compelling because we don't know if the odds of surviving are increasing or decreasing. One of the scariest things about the voice was the fact that you only glimpsed it in the corner of your eye. You don't realise it's there until it tells you. Imagine someone behind you who you only realise is there when they touch you. Then have that feeling in an empty seaside town. It's a primal fear. Ramble over.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 0:20:43 GMT
I can't agree with many that there's a bit of an issue with the ending. For me it's the high point of the story, it builds and builds up to that point and leaves just at the point where there's potential for things to go very badly indeed, or for things to be fine. It was almost like the ending of The Sopranos in that regard where viewers don't know which way it really ends. That ambiguity seems to be the goal here. It's a perfectly valid way of ending a story. We've perhaps not had many endings like it in the Whoniverse but film, tv and literature are full of them. I've marathoned the last 4 releases this week and it's a bit of a shame that Series 2 followed straight on from the first run as we end up with a bigger gap till the special(s) and then a third run.
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Post by Ela on Sept 8, 2016 5:30:31 GMT
Anyone planning a vacation to a seaside town?? I live in a seaside town.
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Post by Ela on Jan 10, 2017 3:00:33 GMT
Ha, I can't believe I never came back to comment on how I liked the story. I just re-listened to it yesterday. I liked the suspense and the not knowing what the Voice was and whether it would get them in the end. The abrupt ending worked well, too, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 16:14:20 GMT
I really enjoyed this one, It captured a real sense of horror that a lot of horror films can't do just through its concept and the medium. 8/10.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 21, 2017 19:31:41 GMT
I can't agree with many that there's a bit of an issue with the ending. For me it's the high point of the story, it builds and builds up to that point and leaves just at the point where there's potential for things to go very badly indeed, or for things to be fine. It was almost like the ending of The Sopranos in that regard where viewers don't know which way it really ends. That ambiguity seems to be the goal here. It's a perfectly valid way of ending a story. We've perhaps not had many endings like it in the Whoniverse but film, tv and literature are full of them. I've marathoned the last 4 releases this week and it's a bit of a shame that Series 2 followed straight on from the first run as we end up with a bigger gap till the special(s) and then a third run. I think David nails it. The ending is perfect. I felt like this episode had a kind of seventies horror film kind of vibe. Very psychological in nature and that ambiguous ending was really keeping with that. I've said this before but I'll mention it again. I felt like TV Torchwood was a very mixed bag and BF audio Torchwood is an altogether more consistent animal. There have been episodes I have liked more than others but nothing that I've stopped listening to and hated. Top notch stuff and one of the best ranges BF produces.
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Post by bobod on Apr 27, 2017 8:45:44 GMT
Feel I should point out, as a horror story, that actually is the end. It's not Part 1 of 2. So I wouldn't hold your breath for an explicit resolution... so just me who felt it didn't end very precisely? Sorry, yes, I can't agree with your review at all. I think we got told everything we needed to know. And the final moment was the perfect (indeed fairly obvious) way to end that play. It's a bit like watching Midnight and saying "but we never found out what it was that was outside".
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Post by Ela on Apr 28, 2017 3:44:53 GMT
so just me who felt it didn't end very precisely? Sorry, yes, I can't agree with your review at all. I think we got told everything we needed to know. And the final moment was the perfect (indeed fairly obvious) way to end that play. It's a bit like watching Midnight and saying "but we never found out it was that what was outside". Agree, bobod. Sorry, Tony Jones, I don't really think we needed to hear more. The way it ended was sort of the whole point.
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Post by bobod on Apr 28, 2017 7:58:25 GMT
Sorry, yes, I can't agree with your review at all. I think we got told everything we needed to know. And the final moment was the perfect (indeed fairly obvious) way to end that play. It's a bit like watching Midnight and saying "but we never found out it was that what was outside". Agree, bobod . It's good when people agree with me when I didn't even manage to get the words in my last sentence in the right order.
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Post by Ela on Apr 28, 2017 12:23:33 GMT
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Post by Tony Jones on Apr 28, 2017 17:54:51 GMT
Sorry, yes, I can't agree with your review at all. I think we got told everything we needed to know. And the final moment was the perfect (indeed fairly obvious) way to end that play. It's a bit like watching Midnight and saying "but we never found out it was that what was outside". Agree, bobod . Sorry, Tony Jones , I don't really think we needed to hear more. The way it ended was sort of the whole point. I just wanted to know what happened next to save the day. It's not like Midnight as there the characters survived and moved on. Just me I suspect
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Post by bobod on Apr 28, 2017 20:39:09 GMT
Agree, bobod . Sorry, Tony Jones , I don't really think we needed to hear more. The way it ended was sort of the whole point. I just wanted to know what happened next to save the day. It's not like Midnight as there the characters survived and moved on. Just me I suspect Um... but we did get told that, didn't we?
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Post by Tony Jones on Apr 29, 2017 10:56:39 GMT
I just wanted to know what happened next to save the day. It's not like Midnight as there the characters survived and moved on. Just me I suspect Um... but we did get told that, didn't we? Doesn't it just stop with Gwen counting down to face up to the big bad just as Rhys as arrived then dive straight into the music?
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Post by bobod on Apr 29, 2017 12:25:35 GMT
Um... but we did get told that, didn't we? Doesn't it just stop with Gwen counting down to face up to the big bad just as Rhys as arrived then dive straight into the music? SPOILERS I SUPPOSE BUT IF YOU'VE NOT HEARD IT WHY ARE YOU READING THIS THREAD My memory is -and I have only heard it once- that when Gwen opens her eyes the plot will be resolved - if it's Rhys she's won (the creature is already dying) if it's the creature she's lost (it will gain enough strength from her to survive). So the plot is totally tied off by this point - it gets fully resolved one way or another. All we don't hear is which way. Or is it me who needs to relisten?
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Post by kimalysong on Apr 29, 2017 12:41:13 GMT
Yes it's meant to be ambiguous we don't know if it's Rhys at the end or not. But Gwen opens her eyes and takes the chance.
I absolutely loved the ending but then I love my ambiguous endings.
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