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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 21:44:03 GMT
*shudders* Never again. Travelling to Gallifrey Base after the Big Finish Forums closed down was a deeply unpleasant experience. As I think I said elsewhere, it was like walking down a badly lit alleyway at night in a major city's club district. You just know you're going to run into some deeply unpleasant and quite often disturbed people who eclipse and swamp the positive contributors. The Divergent Universe is a lot cozier by comparison. When people get riled up it's more of a squabble and no one really seems to hold a grudge which is nice. We aren't forced to agree with one another, but those debates rarely become personal and if they do it's not for long.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 11, 2016 9:55:33 GMT
I've tried to get back on it for ages because I don't believe the 'permanent ban' on any forum is right. Personally, I think the highest ban should be two to three years because that's enough time for someone to reflect back on their time and change.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 11, 2016 10:24:12 GMT
A wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 21:00:36 GMT
It seems to me if you are not part of 'the gang' you are ignored on Gallifrey Base, and the horrific amount of vitriol there is unparallelled. The homophobia rampant during RTD's time is nothing new, sadly - I'm ancient enough to remember buying a couple of DWB 'fanzines' back in the late 80's, and the libellous abuse heaped on JNT, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy was eye-watering! There have always been extreme fans, and they are - quite frankly - frightening. I'm very glad to have found the DU forum, which is always a pleasure to visit.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 16, 2016 21:30:51 GMT
It seems to me if you are not part of 'the gang' you are ignored on Gallifrey Base, and the horrific amount of vitriol there is unparallelled. The homophobia rampant during RTD's time is nothing new, sadly - I'm ancient enough to remember buying a couple of DWB 'fanzines' back in the late 80's, and the libellous abuse heaped on JNT, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy was eye-watering! There have always been extreme fans, and they are - quite frankly - frightening. I'm very glad to have found the DU forum, which is always a pleasure to visit. You must have all been dreading me coming on here!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 21:36:35 GMT
It seems to me if you are not part of 'the gang' you are ignored on Gallifrey Base, and the horrific amount of vitriol there is unparallelled. The homophobia rampant during RTD's time is nothing new, sadly - I'm ancient enough to remember buying a couple of DWB 'fanzines' back in the late 80's, and the libellous abuse heaped on JNT, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy was eye-watering! There have always been extreme fans, and they are - quite frankly - frightening. I'm very glad to have found the DU forum, which is always a pleasure to visit. I'd say the problem with the fans on Gallifrey Base is that they never put out constructive criticism. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 6:05:22 GMT
I hated arguments for arguments sake, and sadly am starting to see some of those behaviours here too. The series 10 thread for example is currently dominated by an argument over how Daleks user phrased a post and whether he did or not imply that Doctor Who gives off a Disney vibe (imo it does.under Moffat) and a political debate comparing Brexit and the American election. Neither are what I dipped into that thread to read.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 11:25:45 GMT
I hated arguments for arguments sake, and sadly am starting to see some of those behaviours here too. The series 10 thread for example is currently dominated by an argument over how Daleks user phrased a post and whether he did or not imply that Doctor Who gives off a Disney vibe (imo it does.under Moffat) and a political debate comparing Brexit and the American election. Neither are what I dipped into that thread to read. In all fairness, it is not uncommon on any internet forum for threads to get derailed in to off-topic subjects now and again, and in my experience it happens a lot on Doctor Who forums especially. Brexit and Trump should probably get discussed in their own threads though and not Doctor Who related ones... Trump especially, as if he wins people will have a lot to say about that I'm sure! However, this place is nowhere near as bad as GB for that sort of thing. |
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Post by acousticwolf on Oct 17, 2016 12:00:19 GMT
@brians and @stevo, the Brexit posts have been moved to the relevant thread. All threads tend to wander off-topic occasionally and Mods try not to get involved in every case. However, on this occasion action was warranted and taken
Cheers
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Post by 8doctormcgann on Nov 4, 2016 7:54:17 GMT
Well it is better than Planet Mondas...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 4, 2016 22:10:33 GMT
Well it is better than Planet Mondas... Well, Mondas is home to the Cybermen so I doubt you can have much of a conversation with them... |
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Post by aztec on Jan 7, 2017 14:21:41 GMT
GB is the source of 90% of the spoilers I've gathered so it has its uses  As I said in my previous post, I've never had any trouble there (though my post count is much lower than here) and there's a lot of interesting discussion there, but It does seem like some of the people there thrive on misery, for self confessed Who fans (and more to the point, adults) more than a few of them seem to get more enjoyment out of getting annoyed with the series or picking it apart rather than having constructive discussions, there's A) A serious use of Nostalgia Goggles in that place B) A disturbing and at times quite vitriolic trend of 'Briggs bashing' and C) A tendency to blame and shame Moffat for everything under the sun, whilst placing RTD on a pedestal, when more often than not the same flaws and writing patterns found in his era can be applied to the RTD era in similar ways... We are all passionate Who fans, but it seems here people are more passionate about appreciating what we have and looking to the futute, rather than resenting what we don't new things and looking to the past...of course the show isn't going to be written or appeal to you in exactly the same way it did a kid 30-40 years ago... |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 18:28:26 GMT
GB is the source of 90% of the spoilers I've gathered so it has its uses As I said in my previous post, I've never had any trouble there (though my post count is much lower than here) and there's a lot of interesting discussion there, but It does seem like some of the people there thrive on misery, for self confessed Who fans (and more to the point, adults) more than a few of them seem to get more enjoyment out of getting annoyed with the series or picking it apart rather than having constructive discussions, there's A) A serious use of Nostalgia Goggles in that place B) A disturbing and at times quite vitriolic trend of 'Briggs bashing' and C) A tendency to blame and shame Moffat for everything under the sun, whilst placing RTD on a pedestal, when more often than not the same flaws and writing patterns found in his era can be applied to the RTD era in similar ways... We are all passionate Who fans, but it seems here people are more passionate about appreciating what we have and looking to the futute, rather than resenting what we don't new things and looking to the past...of course the show isn't going to be written or appeal to you in exactly the same way it did a kid 30-40 years ago... The main problem with Gallifrey Base is that occasionally some of the members can become quite personal and nearly cross the line of bullying. I also think that the forum owner is too trigger happy with permanent bans. I disagree with permanent bans on forum sites full stop because it's basically giving you a life sentence for things online that either may have been taken in the wrong way, were posted without the intention of offence or simply just human beings making very human mistakes. I do think that if you misbehave you should be punished, but not forever. I would suggest a two-three year ban instead - give forum members the chance to change their ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 19:21:52 GMT
GB is the source of 90% of the spoilers I've gathered so it has its uses As I said in my previous post, I've never had any trouble there (though my post count is much lower than here) and there's a lot of interesting discussion there, but It does seem like some of the people there thrive on misery, for self confessed Who fans (and more to the point, adults) more than a few of them seem to get more enjoyment out of getting annoyed with the series or picking it apart rather than having constructive discussions, there's A) A serious use of Nostalgia Goggles in that place B) A disturbing and at times quite vitriolic trend of 'Briggs bashing' and C) A tendency to blame and shame Moffat for everything under the sun, whilst placing RTD on a pedestal, when more often than not the same flaws and writing patterns found in his era can be applied to the RTD era in similar ways... We are all passionate Who fans, but it seems here people are more passionate about appreciating what we have and looking to the futute, rather than resenting what we don't new things and looking to the past...of course the show isn't going to be written or appeal to you in exactly the same way it did a kid 30-40 years ago... The main problem with Gallifrey Base is that occasionally some of the members can become quite personal and nearly cross the line of bullying. I also think that the forum owner is too trigger happy with permanent bans. I disagree with permanent bans on forum sites full stop because it's basically giving you a life sentence for things online that either may have been taken in the wrong way, were posted without the intention of offence or simply just human beings making very human mistakes. I do think that if you misbehave you should be punished, but not forever. I would suggest a two-three year ban instead - give forum members the chance to change their ways. I agree. I'd say that it would seem he doesn't like people with different opinions from him. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2017 20:37:16 GMT
The main problem with Gallifrey Base is that occasionally some of the members can become quite personal and nearly cross the line of bullying. I also think that the forum owner is too trigger happy with permanent bans. I disagree with permanent bans on forum sites full stop because it's basically giving you a life sentence for things online that either may have been taken in the wrong way, were posted without the intention of offence or simply just human beings making very human mistakes. I do think that if you misbehave you should be punished, but not forever. I would suggest a two-three year ban instead - give forum members the chance to change their ways. I agree. I'd say that it would seem he doesn't like people with different opinions from him. He means well. I think he just wants an easy life. However sometimes he can come across a bit dictator-y and I don't think he realises when he does. |
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Post by Ela on Jan 8, 2017 18:02:56 GMT
It's such a big forum, compared to this, that I'm guessing it's a challenge to moderate. We all know how contentious Who fans can be. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 8, 2017 18:29:23 GMT
It's such a big forum, compared to this, that I'm guessing it's a challenge to moderate. We all know how contentious Who fans can be. That's a fair point to make in Steven Hill's defence. Even so, I think the moderating is a bit harsh on that site - and then there's one certain member who is apparently still there and posts more banal/offensive content than others who have been perm banned! |
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Post by aztec on Jan 8, 2017 18:40:26 GMT
It's such a big forum, compared to this, that I'm guessing it's a challenge to moderate. We all know how contentious Who fans can be. That's a fair point to make in Steven Hill's defence. Even so, I think the moderating is a bit harsh on that site - and then there's one certain member who is apparently still there and posts more banal/offensive content than others who have been perm banned! Oh good, I thought you were talking about me for a second there. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 8, 2017 20:04:56 GMT
That's a fair point to make in Steven Hill's defence. Even so, I think the moderating is a bit harsh on that site - and then there's one certain member who is apparently still there and posts more banal/offensive content than others who have been perm banned! Oh good, I thought you were talking about me for a second there. Definitely not you. I won't name names, but his username contains the letters 'C' and 'P'. |
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Post by aztec on Jan 8, 2017 20:09:09 GMT
Oh good, I thought you were talking about me for a second there. Definitely not you. I won't name names, but his username contains the letters 'C' and 'P'. I don't post there frequently enough to know anyone by name (I have a different username on GB anyway), though some of the regulars there certainly have a bit of a C(RA)P(PY) attitude... |
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