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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 20:29:58 GMT
Listening to The Chapel of Night by BF's regular Sherlock scribe Jonathan Barnes. It is the second in this set, and it continues the strengths of the opener. This alternative world the two boys find themselves in is exploited to its fullest. From the blurb and trailer, it sounded like a sci-fi concept somewhat alien to the mindful machinations of J&L, but what the idea produces is their steampunkiest adventure yet - the familiar, fog-strewn cobbles of Victorian London, but more sinister, with none of the friendly extravagances of their friends. Ellie and Quick are still there, very much in character, but they are not the same - and what results, as Jago himself notes, is a nightmare. (Jeff Rawle is unrecognisable, and very good, as Toby Brokesmith.) Anything reassuring is turned on its head, and the only frivolity is in the dialogue between our two heroes. It is very effective and atmospheric and I love it.
Favourite line: From time to time it's good to flex the muscles of thespis!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 16:43:56 GMT
Having now heard How The Other Half Lives, I think I can say it's typically atypical stuff from Matthew Sweet - in that, he is to be relied apon for producing works that will require a second listening! That's no problem, by the way: I don't pay for Big Finish audios to only listen to them only once. Possibly the most comparable televison Doctor Who I can think of, with the works of Mr Sweet, is possibly 'The Crimson Horror' - full of slightly grotesque characters in heightened, but thoroughly reasonably realised, situations. With an actual character called Mr Sweet in that story, I wonder if it was in any way a tribute to Matthew's style of writing ... ? Anyway, I love that style of writing, and this continues this set's strong stories, even if it maybe too reliant on The Talons of Weng Chiang in some ways (although I doubt anyone buying these excellent audios won't be familiar with that tale).
Favourite line: The nick-nacks of Weng-Chiang?
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Post by number13 on Apr 28, 2017 17:30:29 GMT
Having now heard How The Other Half Lives, I think I can say it's typically atypical stuff from Matthew Sweet - in that, he is to be relied apon for producing works that will require a second listening! That's no problem, by the way: I don't pay for Big Finish audios to only listen to them only once. Possibly the most comparable televison Doctor Who I can think of, with the works of Mr Sweet, is possibly 'The Crimson Horror' - full of slightly grotesque characters in heightened, but thoroughly reasonably realised, situations. With an actual character called Mr Sweet in that story, I wonder if it was in any way a tribute to Matthew's style of writing ... ? Anyway, I love that style of writing, and this continues this set's strong stories, even if it maybe too reliant on The Talons of Weng Chiang in some ways (although I doubt anyone buying these excellent audios won't be familiar with that tale). Favourite line: The nick-nacks of Weng-Chiang? I chortled for some time at that line! There was obviously an intention to mark the Talons 40th anniversary in this J&L series and I've liked that a lot. The line you mention and some other points made me wonder if there was also just the faintest ghost of a send-up (of 'Talons') about parts of this episode? Either way, great writing and acting and I loved it too!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 17:40:21 GMT
Having now heard How The Other Half Lives, I think I can say it's typically atypical stuff from Matthew Sweet - in that, he is to be relied apon for producing works that will require a second listening! That's no problem, by the way: I don't pay for Big Finish audios to only listen to them only once. Possibly the most comparable televison Doctor Who I can think of, with the works of Mr Sweet, is possibly 'The Crimson Horror' - full of slightly grotesque characters in heightened, but thoroughly reasonably realised, situations. With an actual character called Mr Sweet in that story, I wonder if it was in any way a tribute to Matthew's style of writing ... ? Anyway, I love that style of writing, and this continues this set's strong stories, even if it maybe too reliant on The Talons of Weng Chiang in some ways (although I doubt anyone buying these excellent audios won't be familiar with that tale). Favourite line: The nick-nacks of Weng-Chiang? I chortled for some time at that line! There was obviously an intention to mark the Talons 40th anniversary in this J&L series and I've liked that a lot. The line you mention and some other points made me wonder if there was also just the faintest ghost of a send-up (of 'Talons') about parts of this episode? Either way, great writing and acting and I loved it too! Ah, of course! I had forgotten the anniversary - in which case, my slight criticism of over-reliance on that original story is rescinded
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 11:32:49 GMT
Too Much Reality finishes off this latest, very strong J&L set very solidly. I hope we will hear something more about future stories soon. It's always good to have David Warner back, as in any production, he is great to listen to and fits in really well with the world of Henry and George. There is a slight sense of 'the big bad' revealing the plot towards the end, but it is all so entertaining and pleasingly dark that that doesn't bother me adversely. After 13 series, I still find J&L charming and fascinating company! Favourite line: Henreeeeigh!! (No-one admonishes like Litefoot)
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Post by Stan on May 1, 2017 9:52:29 GMT
The only thing that I had a problem with was the sound design was too obtrusive in a few sections: the police station, the room with the baby crying…
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Post by tomstardis on May 1, 2017 14:21:24 GMT
I don't know why but I haven't warmed to this series. I've just got the final story to listen to but it just hasn't connected with me. I will probably listen to it again at another time but it's a rare dip in form for me. It's not terrible (they never are) but not as good as recent series.
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Post by kfbate on May 1, 2017 19:37:13 GMT
I have a soft spot for J&L even before the Big Finish re boot. So for me I loved this latest release. This has to be one of the biggest sellers of the spinoffs from BigFinish. I also think that the short stories releases have opened the door to potential expansion of releases for these two characters
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Post by tomstardis on May 10, 2017 19:02:31 GMT
I have just finished the last story and it was a good end to the series. I still think the series was a bit disappointing but won't stop me looking forward to future series. Especially with the cliffhanger. 😮
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 20:25:10 GMT
I wonder when we'll get news of more J&L?
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Post by mbt66 on May 19, 2017 20:23:11 GMT
I have just finished the last story and it was a good end to the series. I still think the series was a bit disappointing but won't stop me looking forward to future series. Especially with the cliffhanger. 😮 ** Cliffhanger SPOILER ** I have always loved airships, but I really hope they don't turn Jago & Litefoot into "sliders" with it taking another boxset before they get home. I really hope that airship is in their own time, but whatever I can't wait to hear them go up in it! Those gentlemen will be magnificent in any flying machine!!
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Post by nottenst on May 23, 2017 14:14:43 GMT
Just finished the series - loved it (as usual). Just when you might have thought they couldn't do anything new with the characters, off they go in a new (parallel) direction. Just loads of fun. It was great to see the new versions of Aubrey and Betterman as well. I wonder if Jago and Litefoot will look them up again when they return to "their" world.
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Post by nottenst on May 23, 2017 14:28:38 GMT
At times I got very confused which Jago, Jago, Litefoot & Litefoot were which and Aubrey & Letterman just seemed to be "tacked on" for me. Saying that I did really enjoy The Stuff of Nightmares, great writing once again by paulmorris . I'd like to hear more about Agent Cara (and did expect our heroes to cross paths with her throughout the the box). To my surprise, in most cases it was quite clear which Jago and Litefoot was talking when and so forth. The only time I ended up confused was when in Too Much Reality, they sent the injured Jago to get the police to get a body and then too quickly switched to a scene with two groups of adventures teaming back up and we get "our" Jago.
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Post by adamelijah on Jun 3, 2017 2:01:29 GMT
I enjoyed this immensely and I like that we'll get a second set of this. My least favorite set was Series Five. I think one of the problems with that set is that they barely had time to explore Jago & Litefoot in the 60s before they began pushing them back to the Status Quo. Give us a couple sets of dimension hopping. My secret hope is that they end up in the Unbound Doctor's Universe and run into the Alt Third Doctor and maybe Benny, though that's a long shot.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 7, 2017 1:55:07 GMT
May I just say I have held off on finishing series 13 because I'm not ready to say goodbye to Professor Litefoot?
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Post by mbt66 on Aug 7, 2017 19:11:59 GMT
May I just say I have held off on finishing series 13 because I'm not ready to say goodbye to Professor Litefoot? I can understand that. It is horrid not having a Jago & Litefoot on pre order.
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Post by Ela on Nov 11, 2020 5:14:53 GMT
Just finished this set of stories. Enjoyable overall, and it was nice to be able to get the Talons tie-in material.
Though I have to say that in the parallel reality I sometimes had a problem distinguishing which Jago & Litefoot was which.
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Post by constonks on Dec 4, 2020 0:14:39 GMT
I did a full Jago and Litefoot marathon last year with the intention of finally hearing 13 & 14. With a year's distance, the main thing I remember is Alternate Jago and his wife and just the Two Jagos & Litefoots episode in general. That's one I'd probably include on a top 20 list!
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Post by tuigirl on Dec 4, 2020 8:38:37 GMT
Having now heard nearly all of them (except for the very last one), I have to say that this one was not as good as most of the previous ones. I don't know, this parallel universe just feels like some gimmick they had to try out after they had already had J&L stuck in the future, on the run, turn bad and going on a cruise. That is not to say it is not fun, because it is. J&L are highly likeable characters and any story with them promises joy. I enjoyed myself here. I was not overly sold by the villains in the stories, and the grand hunt for the giant rat I found a bit underwhelming, although it only serves as a backdrop to bring two sets of J&L together. And here they dropped the ball a little bit, because the two versions of J&L are just too similar and interchangeable. Apart from parallel Jago having a wife, there is hardly any difference. Also, the friendship and influence the two gents had on each other during their adventures together should have been made much more evident in the comparison of the two versions. They try to show this a little bit (with having our Litefoot going on a pub crawl with parallel Jago for example), but they could have gone much more into detail.
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