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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 23, 2016 20:01:24 GMT
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 24, 2016 11:41:36 GMT
WooHoo
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 7, 2016 22:04:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 17:37:42 GMT
Have you heard who's voicing Scrooge McDuck? A certain David Tennant!
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 16, 2016 17:46:12 GMT
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Post by fitzoliverj on Dec 16, 2016 18:16:03 GMT
Oh, no.
Familiar actors.
Haven't they learned from John Goodman's Baloo - or, God help us, Dan Ackroyd's Yogi Bear? If any of them can actually do the voices, then that's fabulous, but I have a nasty idea somebody's thought of casting a Scotsman to play a Scot not an accomplished voice actor to play a voice.
Still, I suppose we should count ourselves lucky that Tennant isn't breaking out his South African accent to voice Flintheart Glomgold....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 18:32:29 GMT
Oh, no. Familiar actors. Haven't they learned from John Goodman's Baloo - or, God help us, Dan Ackroyd's Yogi Bear? If any of them can actually do the voices, then that's fabulous, but I have a nasty idea somebody's thought of casting a Scotsman to play a Scot not an accomplished voice actor to play a voice. I think you're doing Tennant a bit of a disservice. Disney's core market don't care if its a "real" Scottish accent or not. David's done a shedload of voice work - he's been one of the most heard actors on Radio 4 for years and years, has worked on loads of the Arkangel Shakespeare CDs, narrated half the documentaries on TV these days (McGann and Ken Stott do the rest!), does loads of ads, has done video games, and plenty of animation including newer versions of Postman Pat, The Turtles, How To Train Your Dragon and Pirates In An Adventure With Scientists. Oh, and the odd Big Finish or ten. I don't think being Scottish alone got him any of those gigs. Talent did.  I'd say by any definition he's an accomplished voice actor given he's been employed dozens and dozens of times for that express purpose. |
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 16, 2016 19:06:32 GMT
Oh, no. Familiar actors. Haven't they learned from John Goodman's Baloo - or, God help us, Dan Ackroyd's Yogi Bear? If any of them can actually do the voices, then that's fabulous, but I have a nasty idea somebody's thought of casting a Scotsman to play a Scot not an accomplished voice actor to play a voice. I think you're doing Tennant a bit of a disservice. Disney's core market don't care if its a "real" Scottish accent or not. David's done a shedload of voice work - he's been one of the most heard actors on Radio 4 for years and years, has worked on loads of the Arkangel Shakespeare CDs, narrated half the documentaries on TV these days (McGann and Ken Stott do the rest!), does loads of ads, has done video games, and plenty of animation including newer versions of Postman Pat, The Turtles, How To Train Your Dragon and Pirates In An Adventure With Scientists. Oh, and the odd Big Finish or ten. I don't think being Scottish alone got him any of those gigs. Talent did. I'd say by any definition he's an accomplished voice actor given he's been employed dozens and dozens of times for that express purpose. And add to that, why is a Scot playing a Scot a bad idea? Isn't that like getting mad at Banderas when he plays a Spanish character? |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Dec 16, 2016 20:23:56 GMT
I think you're doing Tennant a bit of a disservice. Not at all. He's a very good actor - but that doesn't mean that he can make himself sound like Alan Young (the main voice actor for Scrooge over the last fifty years). |
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Post by coffeeaddict on Dec 16, 2016 20:24:29 GMT
I'm sure it will quack us up when it hits the screen.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Dec 16, 2016 20:29:53 GMT
And add to that, why is a Scot playing a Scot a bad idea? The issue is that famous cartoon characters like Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny or Scrooge Mcduck have familiar voices. When voice actors take over those roles they need to sound more or less like the previous voice actor to ensure the character is recognisably the same. Some of the people they tried out for Elmer Fudd after Arthur Q Bryan were very poor, and again in the 1990s there were some Looney Tunes with dreadful casting. And, as I alluded to before, big-name movie stars have voiced cartoon characters in movies but not sounded right. David Tennant is a talented actor, but can he do what, say, Billy West can do? It's not enough to be the same nationality, that's not going to be enough to sound right. If it so happens that he *can* do the voice, and the other cast members can do their characters' voices recognisably well, then that's great; but I have a very nasty suspicion that this is stunt casting. Disney shouldn't be looking for well known actors; they shouldn't be looking simply for good actors; they need to find good actors who can do the voice, and do it well, and to hell with who they are behind the microphone. (Anyway, what are they doing make Donald Duck a prominent character in "Duck Tales" anyway? He was only in, what, a couple of episodes of the original series?) |
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Post by mark687 on Dec 16, 2016 20:31:32 GMT
I think you're doing Tennant a bit of a disservice. Not at all. He's a very good actor - but that doesn't mean that he can make himself sound like Alan Young (the main voice actor for Scrooge over the last fifty years). He Died earlier this year
www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2016/05/26/alan-young-actor--obituary/
I'm sure Tennant's take on it will be respectful.
Regards
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 20:33:24 GMT
Fair do's but I'm not sure this is going to be like, say, Winnie The Pooh or Mickey were the recast actors are just doing impressions of the original. David's not a mimic - I think Disney will have hired him to do his own take on Scrooge McDuck, not copy Alan Young's (as iconic as it is).
There seems to be an assumption that to be a known actor and to be a good actor are contrary to each other...I don't think that's true in Tennant's case.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 16, 2016 20:57:44 GMT
And add to that, why is a Scot playing a Scot a bad idea? The issue is that famous cartoon characters like Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny or Scrooge Mcduck have familiar voices. When voice actors take over those roles they need to sound more or less like the previous voice actor to ensure the character is recognisably the same. Some of the people they tried out for Elmer Fudd after Arthur Q Bryan were very poor, and again in the 1990s there were some Looney Tunes with dreadful casting. And, as I alluded to before, big-name movie stars have voiced cartoon characters in movies but not sounded right. David Tennant is a talented actor, but can he do what, say, Billy West can do? It's not enough to be the same nationality, that's not going to be enough to sound right. If it so happens that he *can* do the voice, and the other cast members can do their characters' voices recognisably well, then that's great; but I have a very nasty suspicion that this is stunt casting. Disney shouldn't be looking for well known actors; they shouldn't be looking simply for good actors; they need to find good actors who can do the voice, and do it well, and to hell with who they are behind the microphone. I get your standpoint, but then one can argue the reason those didn't work was that they were just mimics and nothing else. I think Alan would be the first to say he doesn't want his successor to just be a Xerox of him, and I personally wouldn't want a clone as it would seem insincere to me, like Alan was easily replaceable. I want Tennant's Scrooge to be its own thing, honouring Alan but having an identity of its own and a chance to imprint on today's kids like Alan did on ours. |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Dec 17, 2016 8:52:46 GMT
There seems to be an assumption that to be a known actor and to be a good actor are contrary to each other... Not at all. Sean Connery is a famous actor, and is a very good actor; but his ability with accents is notoriously poor. Cartoon-character-voice-acting is a specialist job, and I've not seen any suggestion that David Tennant can 'do' familiar voices. But, apparently not everybody agrees that cartoon characters' voices ought to stay the same (I bet you all were big fans of "Quack Pack" *, too......). * "Quack Pack" was the one where Huey, Duey and Louie spoke with - dare I say it - normal voices, not duck voices. |
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 17, 2016 10:46:41 GMT
There seems to be an assumption that to be a known actor and to be a good actor are contrary to each other... * "Quack Pack" was the one where Huey, Duey and Louie spoke with - dare I say it - normal voices, not duck voices. Quack Pack wasn't good because the writing was rather lax and it was pandering to the 90s stereotype of extreme teens. The voice acting was the least of that show's issues. |
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Post by kimalysong on Dec 17, 2016 10:49:28 GMT
Well I did love the cast singing the theme song. That was a lot of fun. I am curious what they are going to do with this adaption. Of course the original makes me nostalgic but I am not really sure more of the same would be what is best.
But looking forward to David Tennant's Scrooge!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 16:30:17 GMT
There seems to be an assumption that to be a known actor and to be a good actor are contrary to each other... Not at all. Sean Connery is a famous actor, and is a very good actor; but his ability with accents is notoriously poor. Cartoon-character-voice-acting is a specialist job, and I've not seen any suggestion that David Tennant can 'do' familiar voices. But, apparently not everybody agrees that cartoon characters' voices ought to stay the same (I bet you all were big fans of "Quack Pack" *, too......). Well, since they've not hired Sean Connery but David Tennant, I'm not sure Big Tam Connery's talents (or not) at voice acting have much to do with the price of fish. I listed a long list of times Tennant has been hired for his vocal work. Sure, he's never been hired to do a stingy duck before but I'd wager that's quite a niche market.  And since we've not seen the series we don't know if what he, and the cast, are doing works or not...but I do like to err on the side of optimism. There's no shortage of Alan Young's Scrooge and Ducktales TV, film and comics if you don't. |
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 18, 2016 13:40:28 GMT
Maybe if David can pull some strings, we'll hear Nick as Flinheart Glomgold. Or Louise Jameson as Magica DeSpell.
Could there be secret deals between Disney and BF? Could John Dorney be heading up Tailspin, while Mark Morris and Cavan Scott do Gargoyles
and Nev Fountain does Rescue Rangers?
WHO KNOWS?
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 1, 2017 1:34:40 GMT
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