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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 0:17:20 GMT
Hey everyone,
What do we want to see in the next Star Trek film?
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 10, 2016 12:52:06 GMT
Klingons kicking some ass
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 11, 2016 3:23:39 GMT
Going boldly where no one has gone before.
Doomsday Machine.
"What does it mean to be human?"
Bones and Spock bickering.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 20, 2016 20:25:40 GMT
Jem'Hadar, Borg, Klingons, Cardassians.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 20, 2016 20:36:57 GMT
Jem'Hadar, Borg, Klingons, Cardassians. You know I actually agree.
A Rouge fleet of Jem'Hader, Klingons and Cardassians that will fight the Feds to the bitter end, maybe against the Next Gen and DS9 crews?
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 20, 2016 20:43:06 GMT
Jem'Hadar, Borg, Klingons, Cardassians. You know I actually agree.
A Rouge fleet of Jem'Hader, Klingons and Cardassians that will fight the Feds to the bitter end, maybe against the Next Gen and DS9 crews?
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Well, I'm not sure that any Cardassian will ever want to work with the Dominion again, after how DS9 ended. I'd like to see the Borg attack the Dominion, with the Federation forced to help their former enemies defend themselves to stop the Borg from assimilating the Dominion and all of its power.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 20, 2016 21:14:50 GMT
Honestly, if I never see another Borg story I'll be a happy man. What's that Yu say? The first story in "To Boldly Go" from IDW is Pine Trek versus Borg? FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 21:19:05 GMT
I guess if that's what you guys want, fair enough, but there's more chance of Lord Lucan winning Wimbeldon next year. Easy to forget that Nemesis - with the full TNG crew - is the lowest grossing Trek film ever and the only true box office flop in the franchise. TNG died with a whimper. And if they didn't think DS9's crew merited a movie 20 years ago it's not going to happen now that the general audience have forgotten all about it.
I've no idea what they will do but though I thought Beyond was great it only just about made it's money back at the box office so I think the next film will play it safe. Klingons, time-travel, Borg....it'll fall back on something like those - Trek tropes that the general public knows to try and make sure the next film is a bigger hit than Beyond.
Just as long as it isn't a plot about revenge...
I think my type of Trek - ideas, morals, ethics - has more chance of appearing on Discovery than the big screen so I'm looking forward to that as much as I have the movies.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 20, 2016 21:55:27 GMT
Honestly, if I never see another Borg story I'll be a happy man. What's that Yu say? The first story in "To Boldly Go" from IDW is Pine Trek versus Borg? FFS. My views on the Borg are the same as my views on the Daleks. It isn't possible to overuse them, even if you put them in every episode.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 20, 2016 22:00:40 GMT
I guess if that's what you guys want, fair enough, but there's more chance of Lord Lucan winning Wimbeldon next year. Easy to forget that Nemesis - with the full TNG crew - is the lowest grossing Trek film ever and the only true box office flop in the franchise. TNG died with a whimper. And if they didn't think DS9's crew merited a movie 20 years ago it's not going to happen now that the general audience have forgotten all about it. I've no idea what they will do but though I thought Beyond was great it only just about made it's money back at the box office so I think the next film will play it safe. Klingons, time-travel, Borg....it'll fall back on something like those - Trek tropes that the general public knows to try and make sure the next film is a bigger hit than Beyond. Just as long as it isn't a plot about revenge... I think my type of Trek - ideas, morals, ethics - has more chance of appearing on Discovery than the big screen so I'm looking forward to that as much as I have the movies. Of course a TNG/DS9 movie is never going to happen, but this thread is about what we want to see in a Trek movie, not about what we expect to see. I think I may be the only person in the galaxy who liked Nemesis. I love the Romulans, with all their plotting and backstabbing, and I thought Shinzon was an interesting villain. I also enjoyed Beyond, but I think it could have been better. Since they made Krall's true identity a shocking plot twist, they couldn't really explore his motivations until the very end of the movie. I would have prefferred if everybody knew that he was a MACO right deom the beginning. I'm much more excited about Discovery than I am about the movies. I'm sure it will have all the morals and other Trekky stuff that we expect, and it will be nice to have a new crew to become invested in.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 20, 2016 22:05:56 GMT
Honestly, if I never see another Borg story I'll be a happy man. What's that Yu say? The first story in "To Boldly Go" from IDW is Pine Trek versus Borg? FFS. My views on the Borg are the same as my views on the Daleks. It isn't possible to overuse them, even if you put them in every episode. Except if you watch Q, Who, were explicitly told by what is as near to Omniscient as Trek has ever gotten a being that the Borg are the least of the terrors out in the Universe. Theyre technozombies. There aren't that many stories you can tell with zombies as the antagonists, or even as the major threat. Even Walking Dead treat Zombies as a plot inconvience.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 20, 2016 22:22:13 GMT
Since the Kelvin timeline films more or less synch up with aspects of the original cast movies, and that it has been announced that Chris Hemsworth is in it, we know that it is going to be a time-travel movie. That said, some Klingon battle action would be appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 22:35:33 GMT
My views on the Borg are the same as my views on the Daleks. It isn't possible to overuse them, even if you put them in every episode. Except if you watch Q, Who, were explicitly told by what is as near to Omniscient as Trek has ever gotten a being that the Borg are the least of the terrors out in the Universe. Theyre technozombies. There aren't that many stories you can tell with zombies as the antagonists, or even as the major threat. Even Walking Dead treat Zombies as a plot inconvience. I agree. Voyager proved there can be too much of a good thing with The Borg. With this no longer being Prime, you could I suppose change up The Borg as we saw with those weird Klingons in Into Darkness. The question is..would you want to? Adding a Queen to their ranks took away from their appeal for me. Their terror was in their fascistic ranks and lack of individuality. Adding a somewhat camp face to lead the ranks made them mundane. The Borg became, as the Daleks were post-1975, mere set decoration for their leader. Though things can be reinvented and work even better. Battlestar Galactica's re-imagining in the 2000s managed to have the Cylons as the antagonists every week for 4 seasons and that's one of the best sci-fi series ever. They did, though, change completely what a Cylon was from the 70s version. They were now more than evil robots - they were us, sometimes literally. For the Borg to not outlast their appeal - and they didn't even grab ratings on Voyager by the end - they'd need revising somewhat. But I feel we're debating TV show could-be's more than the film. I think The Borg could well be used in the Kelvin films, they're trailer friendly and the public know them. I wouldn't even be terribly surprised if we got a Best Of Both Worlds type story with a main crew member assimilated. Like I said above, they're probably going to play it safe for the next movie so I think something that's been proven to appeal to a wider audience - and First Contact with The Borg grossed more than the other TNG movies - will be on the cards. Whether it's The Borg we know I wouldn't be too sure.
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Post by agentten on Nov 21, 2016 0:55:11 GMT
One of the things I really love Star Trek Beyond for is that it took us places we haven't been before. Exploration and determination were important themes in the film. I do expect a fourth film that will lean on some of the more popular tropes of the Trek franchise, and that's fine, they're popular because they tend to work well. One thing I felt the first two Kelvin films were pointing toward is a larger conflict between the Federation and the Klingons, and I think there's a good chance we could still be seeing that in a future film even though Beyond didn't touch on it. Given Chris Hemsworth's involvement with the fourth film it's most likely a time travel film, or I suppose there's a chance it could be a mirror universe film, too. Either way, it sounds like something with solid potential.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 21, 2016 1:01:50 GMT
Given Chris Hemsworth's involvement with the fourth film it's most likely a time travel film, or I suppose there's a chance it could be a mirror universe film, too. Either way, it sounds like something with solid potential. There are other ways that Thorge Kirk can come back. He could have been beamed off the Kelvin at the last second. He could be the George Kirk from the original timeline. He could be a clone. He could have been ressurrected somehow. He may only appear in flashbacks. He could be a hologram. He could be a changeling (or salt vampire, or other shapeshifter). He could be an identical twin or other relative. The possibilities are endless.
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Post by agentten on Nov 21, 2016 1:24:05 GMT
Given Chris Hemsworth's involvement with the fourth film it's most likely a time travel film, or I suppose there's a chance it could be a mirror universe film, too. Either way, it sounds like something with solid potential. There are other ways that Thorge Kirk can come back. He could have been beamed off the Kelvin at the last second. He could be the George Kirk from the original timeline. He could be a clone. He could have been ressurrected somehow. He may only appear in flashbacks. He could be a hologram. He could be a changeling (or salt vampire, or other shapeshifter). He could be an identical twin or other relative. The possibilities are endless. I'm speaking in terms of what's most likely for a film in which Paramount can cultivate the widest possible audience. Of course there are many options, but those options become more limited when the bean counters start looking at what general audiences will sync up with, i.e. what's made money for the studio in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 1:53:40 GMT
More exploring please. They did a brilliant job with Beyond, I'd like it if they kept moving in that direction.
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Post by shutupbanks on Nov 21, 2016 2:59:44 GMT
Have it be about the crew discovering and reacting to a situation, rather than just about the crew.
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Post by bobod on Nov 21, 2016 10:06:38 GMT
More of the same that we've been getting is what I want.
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Post by muckypup on Nov 21, 2016 11:55:20 GMT
TRIBBLES
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