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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 2, 2017 12:58:13 GMT
My problem with Timeless is that it doesn't give you any reason to care that the past isn't changed in a major way. You only see a change at the end of the episode and it's just something that affects the main characters, whereas in my view the show would be better showing the horrors that happen to the entire world if a major change to history is made, during their process in trying to keep established history the same.
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Post by acousticwolf on Feb 2, 2017 13:02:36 GMT
I watched 3 or 4 episodes, missed a few (I forgot it was on) and haven't really cared enough to catch up
Cheers
Tony
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Post by The Matt on Feb 3, 2017 18:59:05 GMT
Watched it up until the Alamo episode but haven't for a few weeks. Just very bland and vanilla. They've not introduced anything remotely new!
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 5, 2017 0:57:03 GMT
Anything new?
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Post by elkawho on Feb 5, 2017 5:33:57 GMT
Hmm, I wonder why I'm so invested in it when you guys aren't. Maybe because it is so steeped in American History and I'm a lover of that. Every time they go back and have to save another historical figure or keep and event on track I'm hooked. I also like the ambiguity of the "are they are working for the good guys or the bad guys?" aspect of it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 5, 2017 10:20:20 GMT
Hmm, I wonder why I'm so invested in it when you guys aren't. Maybe because it is so steeped in American History and I'm a lover of that. Every time they go back and have to save another historical figure or keep and event on track I'm hooked. I also like the ambiguity of the "are they are working for the good guys or the bad guys?" aspect of it. But the problem is that there's no reason given for why altering history would be the right way. Yeah, we see key elements of Lucy's life change as a result of dabbling about in time but even then you don't get to know her sister before we're told she has disappeared from her life. If you look at Alex Scarrow's TimeRiders books there's a much clearer ambiguity of them setting time on the right track. The motives of those trying to change time are much more obvious and you see the changes made to time during the course of Liam O' Connor and Bob/Becks trying to put history back how it was. It does a much better job of it.
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Post by elkawho on Feb 5, 2017 21:31:11 GMT
Hmm, I wonder why I'm so invested in it when you guys aren't. Maybe because it is so steeped in American History and I'm a lover of that. Every time they go back and have to save another historical figure or keep and event on track I'm hooked. I also like the ambiguity of the "are they are working for the good guys or the bad guys?" aspect of it. But the problem is that there's no reason given for why altering history would be the right way. Yeah, we see key elements of Lucy's life change as a result of dabbling about in time but even then you don't get to know her sister before we're told she has disappeared from her life. If you look at Alex Scarrow's TimeRiders books there's a much clearer ambiguity of them setting time on the right track. The motives of those trying to change time are much more obvious and you see the changes made to time during the course of Liam O' Connor and Bob/Becks trying to put history back how it was. It does a much better job of it. The reasons for the "bad guys" wanting to change history is slowly being revealed as the episodes play out. I've never read TimeRiders. I guess I should put them on my list of books I'd like to read but have no time to actually read them.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 5, 2017 21:48:10 GMT
But the problem is that there's no reason given for why altering history would be the right way. Yeah, we see key elements of Lucy's life change as a result of dabbling about in time but even then you don't get to know her sister before we're told she has disappeared from her life. If you look at Alex Scarrow's TimeRiders books there's a much clearer ambiguity of them setting time on the right track. The motives of those trying to change time are much more obvious and you see the changes made to time during the course of Liam O' Connor and Bob/Becks trying to put history back how it was. It does a much better job of it. The reasons for the "bad guys" wanting to change history is slowly being revealed as the episodes play out. I've never read TimeRiders. I guess I should put them on my list of books I'd like to read but have no time to actually read them. Mystery can be good but I'd argue with Timeless it isn't really a satisfying slow reveal. It's the kind of show where you need to know the reasoning straight away for it to make sense.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Feb 18, 2017 23:14:15 GMT
episode 10 (apparently) revealed what the conspiracy's viewpoint is I found it disturbingly similar to some recent UK Prime Ministers (and anything resembling Tony Blair disturbs me...) {Quote from the founders son} "Peasants can't govern themselves any more than ants can rule the jungle. Most peasants want nothing more than the illusion of a voice. Father says that's what democracy's for"
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