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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 18:59:27 GMT
I took his odd behavior as a sign that someone was messing with his mind leaving him confused and easily distracted. I thought that at first, but by the end it didn't seem like that was the case. It would seem that he was just going undercover and doing a bad job. I took it that way too! Seemed out of character for Six (or any other incarnation) to be duped so unquestioningly. Overall, a tremendous set though. Five Twenty Nine was a captivating hour of audio and is one of my favourite releases of the year. Very much looking forward to a third series.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2017 1:27:55 GMT
The Unknown by Guy Adams 7 and River have great chemistry together, don't they. A very smart written story that provides an interesting lead into Five Twenty Nine. 9/10. Onwards!!!
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Jan 2, 2017 1:21:15 GMT
Having finished the set, I enjoyed it more than the previous series on the whole, but felt the first tied things together better at the end. "The Unknown" was good. Some nice imagery. Can't say I liked any of the characters that much. The Doctor stopping to help the engineer through his emotional problems rather than just getting into the TARDIS to fix everything seemed out of character, especially since he doesn't know River can pilot in his stead.
"Five Twenty-Nine" was the best story. Like they say in the extras, great dialogue.
"Worlds Enough and Time" was the most fun story; full of daft scenes, characters and weird sci-fi concepts. I really liked how they did 6 and River, though felt the aspect where she suspects he's involved with the plot was a bit forced. I like what it added to the dynamic, just that there didn't seem to be a good enough reason for her toassume he was up to no good.
With "The Eye of the Storm", the interaction between the Doctors and River is great, from their meeting, to the struggle, to their departure; ESPECIALLY love the contrast of the departures, with 6 being smitten and 7 being beyond difficult. I just thought the way it resolved the story-arc through the two lovers wasn't particularly compelling.
And overall, Kingston is doing a lot better on Audio, though I knew that from Doom Coalition already.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 0:49:54 GMT
Five Twenty-Nine by John Dorney
This was a top notch part of the puzzle. Intriguing, emotional, smart, perfectly cast and dealt with loss and facing your own death beautifully. 9/10.
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Post by chapwithwings on Jan 3, 2017 19:54:13 GMT
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 3, 2017 22:32:45 GMT
Is the Doctors in all four stories or just two?
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Post by mark687 on Jan 3, 2017 22:33:52 GMT
Is the Doctors in all four stories or just two? 3 out of 4
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 4, 2017 9:06:18 GMT
Is the Doctors in all four stories or just two? 3 out of 4
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Cheers mate.
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Post by omega on Jan 4, 2017 9:16:17 GMT
Is the Doctors in all four stories or just two? The Seventh Doctor is in the first story, the Sixth Doctor is in the third story and both of them are in the fourth story.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 4, 2017 20:02:32 GMT
Is the Doctors in all four stories or just two? The Seventh Doctor is in the first story, the Sixth Doctor is in the third story and both of them are in the fourth story. It is kind of funny that we got two multi-Doctor stories this month.
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Post by kimalysong on Jan 4, 2017 21:39:27 GMT
Finished the last story which I did enjoy for the marvelous interaction between River, Seven and Six. They definitely delivered in this aspect. But I was confused at times (hey they even mentioned in the extras it was confusing). Personally I am not sure of the two boxsets which I enjoyed more. They both had their strengths and weaknesses. Although Five Twenty-Nine was definitely my favorite story of both box-sets. That story alone probably made this box set more than worth it for me. And I loved that Alex's daughter played Rachel.
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Post by escalus5 on Jan 4, 2017 22:51:06 GMT
Finished the last story which I did enjoy for the marvelous interaction between River, Seven and Six. They definitely delivered in this aspect. But I was confused at times (hey they even mentioned in the extras it was confusing). Personally I am not sure of the two boxsets which I enjoyed more. They both had their strengths and weaknesses. I absolutely loved River Song Vol. 1, and there's so much to love about it: The affectionate homage to adventure movie serials and pulp mystery novels in the first two segments, the clever two-hander in which River is manipulated by someone she thinks is the Doctor, and then the riveting finale featuring the Time War-battered Eight. It was great fun, and it was successful at giving River enough room as a solo adventurer before incorporating the Doctor (the real Doctor, at least) into its arc. It was beautifully structured. Vol. 2? Meh. To be honest, I listened to Parts 1 and 2 several days ago and haven't got the urge to go back and finish the set. It's not awful, like War Doctor 3: Agents of Chaos, but so far I've found the stories unappealing. "Five Twenty Nine" is an effort to do something different with the formula, but its pathos didn't grab me (unlike "Absent Friends") and the performance by Kingston's daughter is sadly not up to par.
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Post by shallacatop on Jan 5, 2017 18:40:30 GMT
I thought this set was terrific. 5:29 was the highlight; utterly grim yet beautiful. I loved the dynamic that River had between the two Doctors and I thought it was nice how the Doctors eventually interacting was rather low-key, cementing that River Song is the star of the set.
As for future sets including the Doctor in. I'm completely indifferent, as I love the episodes with River on her own and I love River interacting with the different incarnations. That said, I think it'd be a missed opportunity if Tom Baker and Peter Davison were omitted. Perhaps the third set should just have the Fifth Doctor in one episode and the same for the Fourth Doctor, albeit in the fourth set.
Only criticism is I wish Big Finish wouldn't bother having River erase the Doctor's memory of her after each adventure. I'd just do one that would apply to all in an Eighth Doctor adventure where he's just about to go into the Time War.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 9, 2017 11:01:08 GMT
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Post by The Matt on Jan 10, 2017 21:26:51 GMT
Just finished The Unknown. A massive step up from the first volume. I enjoyed it and Alex Kingston put in a stronger and more assured performance in this one episode than the first 3 episodes of Volume 1. I hope it keeps it up
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Post by The Matt on Jan 12, 2017 21:42:20 GMT
Finished Five Twenty Nine. Awesome. Dorney does it again. Probably the best use of River in ages and it showed in Alex' performance. I wasn't overly keen on vol.1 and only got Vol.2 due to the Doctors involvement but still wasn't expecting much. I was very wrong as this volume is kicking the first ones buttocks!!
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Post by Whovitt on Jan 12, 2017 23:45:00 GMT
Well... I think I'm in the minority of not being overly impressed by this set as a whole AT ALL. The Unknown was was alright. I wouldn't call it more than average. The River/Doctor relationship in the box set in general was a bit weird (being far too open with her identity than she was with Eight, even though he couldn't even see her), but this story was particularly weird. Seven and River just don't mix as a couple, and the way she seems to suggest she has the same feelings for him as she would, say, Ten or Eleven, is just a bit unbelievable. Five Twenty-Nine... well, there is actually nothing bad I can say about this one. All I can ask is that dorney might stop making me cry World Enough and Time was, in my opinion, awful. Six's characterisation was laughable - you could have had Colin Baker playing a different character for all the similarities to the Doctor that were present. As someone else here mention, River feeling that the Doctor was mixed up in it all felt very forced and unbelievable. And something I've not seen anyone else mention - I could swear there was a moment there where Sixie used a sonic screwdriver... He never had one, did he, as it was destroyed in The Visitation and not replaced until The Movie? The Eye of the Storm was a bit better better than The Unknown, but I still wouldn't call it much more than average. Sixie's characterisation was better, but I still don't understand why he would be so intrigued/smitten by River? It just seems ridiculously out of character. And regarding the post-credit scene - I didn't realise that I needed it until I got it. Personally, if a story NEEDS a post-credit scene to actually FINISH THE STORY, then something was done wrong during the rest of the story. A bonus scene shouldn't be necessary to finish the story - it should be contained between the credits (sans cold open). So, overall, I was a bit disappointed by Series 2. I thought Series 1 was great, but this one was definitely a step in the wrong direction (somehow). As for Classic Doctor involvement, I don't have an issue, so long as the characters are actually written properly! If this set is anything to go by, they'll need to look more carefully at this after World Enough and Time... (Sorry for sounding so negative, I was just really disappointed by this release )
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Post by elkawho on Jan 13, 2017 15:25:18 GMT
Well... I think I'm in the minority of not being overly impressed by this set as a whole AT ALL. The Unknown was was alright. I wouldn't call it more than average. The River/Doctor relationship in the box set in general was a bit weird (being far too open with her identity than she was with Eight, even though he couldn't even see her), but this story was particularly weird. Seven and River just don't mix as a couple, and the way she seems to suggest she has the same feelings for him as she would, say, Ten or Eleven, is just a bit unbelievable. Five Twenty-Nine... well, there is actually nothing bad I can say about this one. All I can ask is that dorney might stop making me cry World Enough and Time was, in my opinion, awful. Six's characterisation was laughable - you could have had Colin Baker playing a different character for all the similarities to the Doctor that were present. As someone else here mention, River feeling that the Doctor was mixed up in it all felt very forced and unbelievable. And something I've not seen anyone else mention - I could swear there was a moment there where Sixie used a sonic screwdriver... He never had one, did he, as it was destroyed in The Visitation and not replaced until The Movie? The Eye of the Storm was a bit better better than The Unknown, but I still wouldn't call it much more than average. Sixie's characterisation was better, but I still don't understand why he would be so intrigued/smitten by River? It just seems ridiculously out of character. And regarding the post-credit scene - I didn't realise that I needed it until I got it. Personally, if a story NEEDS a post-credit scene to actually FINISH THE STORY, then something was done wrong during the rest of the story. A bonus scene shouldn't be necessary to finish the story - it should be contained between the credits (sans cold open). So, overall, I was a bit disappointed by Series 2. I thought Series 1 was great, but this one was definitely a step in the wrong direction (somehow). As for Classic Doctor involvement, I don't have an issue, so long as the characters are actually written properly! If this set is anything to go by, they'll need to look more carefully at this after World Enough and Time... (Sorry for sounding so negative, I was just really disappointed by this release ) I both agree and disagree with your views on this. While on the whole I liked this volume much more than the first one, I completely agree with you about Six's characterization. He was completely out of character here. I thought that was the worst thing in the set. I actually loved her interactions with Seven, and the first story didn't bother me because they were both having memory problems. And I thought Alex Kingston's performance in this was her best for BF so far, she really carried the set.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 16:03:10 GMT
Well... I think I'm in the minority of not being overly impressed by this set as a whole AT ALL. The Unknown was was alright. I wouldn't call it more than average. The River/Doctor relationship in the box set in general was a bit weird (being far too open with her identity than she was with Eight, even though he couldn't even see her), but this story was particularly weird. Seven and River just don't mix as a couple, and the way she seems to suggest she has the same feelings for him as she would, say, Ten or Eleven, is just a bit unbelievable. Five Twenty-Nine... well, there is actually nothing bad I can say about this one. All I can ask is that dorney might stop making me cry World Enough and Time was, in my opinion, awful. Six's characterisation was laughable - you could have had Colin Baker playing a different character for all the similarities to the Doctor that were present. As someone else here mention, River feeling that the Doctor was mixed up in it all felt very forced and unbelievable. And something I've not seen anyone else mention - I could swear there was a moment there where Sixie used a sonic screwdriver... He never had one, did he, as it was destroyed in The Visitation and not replaced until The Movie? The Eye of the Storm was a bit better better than The Unknown, but I still wouldn't call it much more than average. Sixie's characterisation was better, but I still don't understand why he would be so intrigued/smitten by River? It just seems ridiculously out of character. And regarding the post-credit scene - I didn't realise that I needed it until I got it. Personally, if a story NEEDS a post-credit scene to actually FINISH THE STORY, then something was done wrong during the rest of the story. A bonus scene shouldn't be necessary to finish the story - it should be contained between the credits (sans cold open). So, overall, I was a bit disappointed by Series 2. I thought Series 1 was great, but this one was definitely a step in the wrong direction (somehow). As for Classic Doctor involvement, I don't have an issue, so long as the characters are actually written properly! If this set is anything to go by, they'll need to look more carefully at this after World Enough and Time... (Sorry for sounding so negative, I was just really disappointed by this release ) I both agree and disagree with your views on this. While on the whole I liked this volume much more than the first one, I completely agree with you about Six's characterization. He was completely out of character here. I thought that was the worst thing in the set. I actually loved her interactions with Seven, and the first story didn't bother me because they were both having memory problems. And I thought Alex Kingston's performance in this was her best for BF so far, she really carried the set. Reading Vortex I was baffled to learn they deliberately wrote against Six's normal character. I can't understand why they'd think that was a good idea.
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Post by Zagreus on Jan 13, 2017 16:23:00 GMT
I both agree and disagree with your views on this. While on the whole I liked this volume much more than the first one, I completely agree with you about Six's characterization. He was completely out of character here. I thought that was the worst thing in the set. I actually loved her interactions with Seven, and the first story didn't bother me because they were both having memory problems. And I thought Alex Kingston's performance in this was her best for BF so far, she really carried the set. Reading Vortex I was baffled to learn they deliberately wrote against Six's normal character. I can't understand why they'd think that was a good idea. It's weird, the classic Doctors were a little out of character in the Classic Doctors New Monsters set as well.
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