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Post by fitzoliverj on Jan 13, 2017 18:36:59 GMT
I'd always wondered what had happened to Guilor, especially as his work on Planet of Giants was great and Russell and Ford were singing his praises In interviews he's expressed that he's not entirely comfortable with the idea. Apparently when he did the first Doctor Omega audiobook he insisted on toning down the Hartnell impersonation from what the company had wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 19:40:04 GMT
I'd always wondered what had happened to Guilor, especially as his work on Planet of Giants was great and Russell and Ford were singing his praises In interviews he's expressed that he's not entirely comfortable with the idea. Apparently when he did the first Doctor Omega audiobook he insisted on toning down the Hartnell impersonation from what the company had wanted. I can absolutely understand the Doctor Omega situation. After all he wouldn't want to be in a BBV situation of annoying the BBC by making unlicensed blatant ripoff of Doctor Who, so the voice needs to be kept different.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 21:19:18 GMT
I am not a fan of recasting, but I am not a fan of sub-zero temperatures and inches of snow either, but I have to live with that, so I'm sure I can live with recasting by Big Finish too. Life is still going to carry on as normal in both cases, as they are facts of life in 2017. So I'll just take it as it comes...
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 13, 2017 21:43:45 GMT
Well in regards to Delgado's Master, i dont think they'd need to recast. If its set post Last of the Gaderene, he could have regenerated into Beevers or a pre-Beevers body. So that opens that up there, rather than say its Delgado, its his next body. Just an idea mind This for me is a major reason not to recast - it forces the writers to be even more creative. When William Hartnell was replaced it wasn't a straight recast of the character it was something much more exciting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 8:29:24 GMT
Well in regards to Delgado's Master, i dont think they'd need to recast. If its set post Last of the Gaderene, he could have regenerated into Beevers or a pre-Beevers body. So that opens that up there, rather than say its Delgado, its his next body. Just an idea mind This for me is a major reason not to recast - it forces the writers to be even more creative. When William Hartnell was replaced it wasn't a straight recast of the character it was something much more exciting. To me that's the obvious thing to do with the Master. It is recasting, just using regeneration the same way the BBC do. We've already had two new Monks, a new Rani and a new Drax, so why not a new Master. We've only seen Delgado and Beverstone from the first thirteen, so there's plenty of scope.
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Post by pawntake on Jan 14, 2017 9:00:35 GMT
This for me is a major reason not to recast - it forces the writers to be even more creative. When William Hartnell was replaced it wasn't a straight recast of the character it was something much more exciting. To me that's the obvious thing to do with the Master. It is recasting, just using regeneration the same way the BBC do. We've already had two new Monks, a new Rani and a new Drax, so why not a new Master. We've only seen Delgado and Beverstone from the first thirteen, so there's plenty of scope. Anyone seen "Da Vincis Demons" Blake Ritsons performance in this suggests to me he wouid make a great master.!! He has the look as well.
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 14, 2017 10:51:31 GMT
To me that's the obvious thing to do with the Master. It is recasting, just using regeneration the same way the BBC do. We've already had two new Monks, a new Rani and a new Drax, so why not a new Master. We've only seen Delgado and Beverstone from the first thirteen, so there's plenty of scope. Anyone seen "Da Vincis Demons" Blake Ritsons performance in this suggests to me he wouid make a great master.!! He has the look as well. Da Vinci's Demons is where I first (knowingly) saw Blake Ritson and I agree he was magnificent in that. He has a very districtive voice so whenever he is on audio I keep expecting him to turn out to be the villain! His performance as Young Litefoot did win me over to the notion that he might not be all bad! Yes he would make a marvellous Machiavellian Master. However with two Masters already available to Big Finish I don't think he is needed, at least not against the Third Doctor. I would like to hear a pre disfigured Beevers.
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Post by kimalysong on Jan 14, 2017 10:55:31 GMT
I never thought of Blake Ritson for the Master but just a side note he's one of my favorite guest actors used by Big Finish so I am always for him getting more roles.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 14, 2017 12:32:31 GMT
I'd always wondered what had happened to Guilor, especially as his work on Planet of Giants was great and Russell and Ford were singing his praises In interviews he's expressed that he's not entirely comfortable with the idea. Apparently when he did the first Doctor Omega audiobook he insisted on toning down the Hartnell impersonation from what the company had wanted. Oh right. Thats a shame, but is understandable
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Post by bobod on Jan 14, 2017 13:56:59 GMT
To me that's the obvious thing to do with the Master. It is recasting, just using regeneration the same way the BBC do. We've already had two new Monks, a new Rani and a new Drax, so why not a new Master. We've only seen Delgado and Beverstone from the first thirteen, so there's plenty of scope. Anyone seen "Da Vincis Demons" Blake Ritsons performance in this suggests to me he wouid make a great master.!! He has the look as well. Oh Justin, oh Justin, my very own Justin.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Jan 14, 2017 17:30:02 GMT
I would love a recast Delgado master. a recast Ainley master, and i'd enjoy seeing all of them, battling different incarnations of the doctor.
Remember, he ran through his first set of regenerations, so there must be at least 13 of him/her set before Beavers, musnt there?
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Post by Zagreus on Jan 14, 2017 19:58:12 GMT
Beevers is the thirteenth, so twelve prior to him, with Delgado (and Brayshaw! ) in there somewhere.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 14, 2017 22:29:02 GMT
Beevers is the thirteenth, so twelve prior to him, with Delgado (and Brayshaw! ) in there somewhere. Brayshaw never played the Master. I think we can all agree that William Hughes is the first Master though.
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Post by pawntake on Jan 15, 2017 0:20:15 GMT
Anyone seen "Da Vincis Demons" Blake Ritsons performance in this suggests to me he wouid make a great master.!! He has the look as well. Oh Justin, oh Justin, my very own Justin. A real Gentleman! As "The Master" he would be in a different League!!!
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 24, 2017 16:59:44 GMT
I'd say about a year is probably long enough. Just one? No, that´s far, far too short, and in the context of a consumer product, a little insensitive.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 24, 2017 17:03:34 GMT
As shown by the responses, it´s a herd question to answer. My own feeling is 'enough time to grow up', so roughly ten years, give or take. Allow mourning, allow some remembrance and evaluation of legacy, allow time for influence and also let the younger fans grow up and get more used to the idea of losing your heroes. That´s just my feeling, and considering the Brig and Sarah have a considerable younger fanbase from the CBBC show, it´s still too soon.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jan 24, 2017 19:11:00 GMT
I'd say about a year is probably long enough. Just one? No, that´s far, far too short, and in the context of a consumer product, a little insensitive. I don't think it is insensitive at all to recast, no matter how much time has passed. I said a year to give people a chance to mourn, but BF shouldn't spend a decade refusing to use certain characters just because the actors dead. I'm enjoying the Third Doctor Adventures so far, but the stories are limited by the abscense of the Brigadier. I'm sad that Nick Courtney is dead, and no recast will be able to truly replace him, but I still want new Brigadier stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 20:36:11 GMT
Just one? No, that´s far, far too short, and in the context of a consumer product, a little insensitive. I don't think it is insensitive at all to recast, no matter how much time has passed. I said a year to give people a chance to mourn, but BF shouldn't spend a decade refusing to use certain characters just because the actors dead. I'm enjoying the Third Doctor Adventures so far, but the stories are limited by the abscense of the Brigadier. I'm sad that Nick Courtney is dead, and no recast will be able to truly replace him, but I still want new Brigadier stories. I agree. Was it insensitive when they cast a new James Bond? Many people will never take to the latest Q or M, but many more will love them. Or take Star Trek. They were happy to recast the entire crew. They even had old Spock talking to new Spock. I want a new Harry Sullivan or a new Dodo or Dayna. I desperately want a better replacement for the first Doctor, I would have no qualms at all about a new Liz Shaw. The point about love and affection for an actor is a fair one, but I'm more interested in the characters they played. Now don't get me wrong, I'm aware Big Finish and many of the existing actors feel differently and I'm not attempting to influence them in any way. Many of them knew the actors in question so naturally they will feel different.
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