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Post by number13 on May 1, 2017 14:02:56 GMT
How annoying that Volume 2 is OOP! The individual stories are available on Audible (at least in the UK) though I appreciate that's a rather annoying way of going about it. The prices are a strange mixture too. They are a strange mix of prices, partly set by the fame of each individual story it appears, but I'm not keen on Audible anyway. BF downloads are a totally different matter. I've become a convert to download purchases from BF because of the audio quality ( to my ears it's as good as CD quality) and the ease and flexibility of the download format, with the BF app available as a convenience but not an obligation. So, I'm able to listen to BF releases on a tiny and very simple MP3 player I've used for ten years on the exercise bike and my player of choice (VLC) on the PC, as well as the tablet and phone with or without the app as I choose. Very good and shows the right attitude from BF to their loyal customers I think.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 1, 2017 18:05:42 GMT
Right.
Who has heard this?
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Post by number13 on May 1, 2017 18:23:18 GMT
Right. Who has heard this? Isn't it still a thing to come? Tomorrow?
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 1, 2017 19:07:36 GMT
The bf site has it out now...
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Post by acousticwolf on May 1, 2017 19:15:32 GMT
The bf site has it out now... That's just a free extract. I'm waiting for the full release . Cheers Tony
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Post by mark687 on May 1, 2017 19:17:29 GMT
The bf site has it out now... 15 Minute preview IF you get the BF Newsletter in your E-mail but they haven't sent them out yet.
E-mail containing code has been sent.
Regards
mark687
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Post by mark687 on May 2, 2017 9:13:24 GMT
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Post by elkawho on May 3, 2017 2:21:47 GMT
I'm surprised that no one has posted here yet. This is a strange one for me because I have to say that I so strongly disagree with every premise set forward in this release. I never read the book, so I don't know how much of this was Wells' ideas or Adams'. I do know that Wells was a socialist and believed that there should be one World State, so I surmise that they must be mostly Wells'. That being said, it was a fascinating story, well written and superbly acted. I ended up liking it very much in spite of myself. A very well spent 2 hours of listening.
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Post by IndieMacUser on May 3, 2017 9:22:22 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 3, 2017 9:28:23 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 3, 2017 9:29:30 GMT
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Post by cr1980 on May 3, 2017 9:36:24 GMT
Well, that was interesting.
The core future history, which I assume is mostly Wells, is very much of the 1930s left. The Revolution may involve some short term necessary unpleasantness but will turn out for the best in the end. Given the actual trajectory of 20th century communist states it feels either a bit naive or a bit distasteful. It also reminds me of Kipling's Aerial Board of Control short stories.
The framing story is about an attack on our timeline by an alternate future.
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Post by number13 on May 3, 2017 10:51:03 GMT
I'm surprised that no one has posted here yet. This is a strange one for me because I have to say that I so strongly disagree with every premise set forward in this release. I never read the book, so I don't know how much of this was Wells' ideas or Adams'. I do know that Wells was a socialist and believed that there should be one World State, so I surmise that they must be mostly Wells'. That being said, it was a fascinating story, well written and superbly acted. I ended up liking it very much in spite of myself. A very well spent 2 hours of listening. The core message of the controlling One World State is all Wells. Well's novel is written as an historical textbook looking back from a mid 21st perspective on the previous 150 years, somehow received by Raven in dreams. (Odd mechanism for such an anti-spiritualist as Wells). It's a very clever idea for a novel with such sweep and the book is most convincing in its structure, but it's not exactly approachable drama! This adaptation turns it into gripping drama that had me riveted for the whole two hours last night. The brilliant framing device of the split timelines and Jane, taking Raven on his journey of 'conversion' to that ending, is all Guy Adams; most (maybe all, so much detail to remember!) of the incidents with the people that Raven and Jane meet along the way are from the novel. Excellent central performances from Nicola Walker and Sam Troughton, and all the myriad guest characters too. A superb, ingenious adaptation of a very challenging novel (politically and structurally), I enjoyed every minute - and politically I couldn't disagree with Wells much more if I tried! (In the novel, Wells also advocates a form of eugenics, makes lengthy anti-Semitic statements and is disparaging about African languages.) No doubt this division between my appreciation of the art and my total rejection of the message would not be tolerated in Wells' ideal organised monocultural state. Long live diverse, sometimes disorganised and always priceless democracy!
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 3, 2017 11:02:51 GMT
But it's right...
As long as the trains run on time.
There is food for all
And the bins are collected
Most people don't care who is running the show.
It awful. But rings true
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 3, 2017 11:04:13 GMT
Wells and Clarke both see the removal of religion...
As necessary.
And I just can't see how it can be done.
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Post by elkawho on May 3, 2017 11:26:23 GMT
The thing is, the people that use religion as an excuse for violence and evil use it as just that, an excuse. Take religion away, they will find another reason for evil and violence. Unfortunately, there are plenty of examples of this. Soviet Union, China, North Korea, The Sudan, and others.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 3, 2017 12:51:00 GMT
Like Alan Moore says in the into to v for vendetta
I was nieve to think it would take an atomic war to drive us to the right...
It only took greed and apathy
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Post by number13 on May 3, 2017 13:40:33 GMT
Like Alan Moore says in the into to v for vendetta I was nieve to think it would take an atomic war to drive us to the right... It only took greed and apathy Wells' vision is the polar opposite - a perfect world driven to the left by the collapse of the market economy, the rise of unchallengable union power (the Air Dictatorship of workers controlling all transport and thus the world) and the final coup by the young elite who (of course) know best. And this is in his view A Good Thing. A world purged of greed or apathy (or free will), where everyone is fully provided for by the state and everyone is busy because the state knows what is the best way for them to spend their happy, productive lives. And everyone is too well 'educated' to disagree or step out of line... and those who do, even (like Essende) for love, are gassed into submission (only pacifiying gas, so that's presumably meant to be OK(!)) or they go the way of Socrates...
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Post by mark687 on May 3, 2017 14:46:16 GMT
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 3, 2017 15:10:06 GMT
Cheers. The link for TinDogPodcast takes you to the other review. But still Nice
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