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Post by masterdoctor on Jul 28, 2019 0:39:41 GMT
George Bernard Shaw “The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” "No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means."
Oscar Wilde “To believe is very dull. To doubt is intensely engrossing.” "When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it."
Stephen Fry “The god who created this universe, if he created this universe, is quite clearly a maniac, an utter maniac, totally selfish. We have to spend our lives on our knees thanking him. What kind of god would do that?”
George Carlin “Atheism is a non-prophet organization.” "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do... And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you... and HE NEEDS MONEY!"
Issac Asimov “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
Aristotle “Men create gods after their own image.”
Douglas Adams "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
Penn Jillette "Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, Jell-o, and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have."'
Richard Feynman "But I don't have to know an answer. I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in the mysterious universe without having any purpose which is the way it really is, as far as I can tell, possibly. It doesn't frighten me"
Tim Minchin "Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved"
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 28, 2019 20:59:07 GMT
George Bernard Shaw “The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” "No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he means." Oscar Wilde “To believe is very dull. To doubt is intensely engrossing.” "When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it." Stephen Fry “The god who created this universe, if he created this universe, is quite clearly a maniac, an utter maniac, totally selfish. We have to spend our lives on our knees thanking him. What kind of god would do that?” George Carlin “Atheism is a non-prophet organization.” "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do... And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you... and HE NEEDS MONEY!" Issac Asimov “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” Aristotle “Men create gods after their own image.” Douglas Adams "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." Penn Jillette "Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, Jell-o, and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have."' Richard Feynman "But I don't have to know an answer. I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in the mysterious universe without having any purpose which is the way it really is, as far as I can tell, possibly. It doesn't frighten me" Tim Minchin "Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved"
The Apostle Paul, 1 Corinthians 2:14 "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. “
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Post by Digi on Jul 28, 2019 21:21:14 GMT
'Nonbelievers are unenlightened' is a circular argument, and not the best salesmanship I've ever heard.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 28, 2019 21:56:16 GMT
'Nonbelievers are unenlightened' is a circular argument, and not the best salesmanship I've ever heard. No salesmanship intended, merely a biblical perspective on why some people have faith and others don't.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jul 28, 2019 23:10:26 GMT
'Nonbelievers are unenlightened' is a circular argument, and not the best salesmanship I've ever heard. No salesmanship intended, merely a biblical perspective on why some people have faith and others don't.
No worries on my part. I appreciate the opposing perspective.
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Post by Digi on Aug 28, 2019 13:29:54 GMT
Just came across another I quite liked:
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." - John A. Shedd
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Post by theotherjosh on Dec 24, 2019 13:12:23 GMT
"He became as good a friend, as good a master, and as good a man, as the good old city knew, or any other good old city, town, or borough, in the good old world. Some people laughed to see the alteration in him, but he let them laugh, and little heeded them; for he was wise enough to know that nothing ever happened on this globe, for good, at which some people did not have their fill of laughter in the outset; and knowing that such as these would be blind anyway, he thought it quite as well that they should wrinkle up their eyes in grins, as have the malady in less attractive forms. His own heart laughed: and that was quite enough for him."
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Post by Digi on Feb 6, 2020 13:36:14 GMT
Given all that's been going on, I quite liked this one I came across yesterday, from Tom Clancy's Patriot Games:
"A conscience is the price of morality, and morality is the price of civilization."
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Post by BHTvsTFC on Feb 9, 2020 11:25:59 GMT
'I have never killed anyone but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction' Clarence Darrow.
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Post by theotherjosh on Feb 10, 2020 21:02:23 GMT
I had never encountered this before, but apparently it's been a mainstay of recovery programs since it was written. The author was Portia Nelson, who portrayed Sister Berthe in The Sound of Music.
"Autobiography in Five Short Chapters"
Chapter I I walk down the street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I fall in. I am lost ... I am helpless. It isn't my fault. It takes me forever to find a way out.
Chapter II I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I pretend I don't see it. I fall in again. I can't believe I am in the same place. But it isn't my fault. It still takes a long time to get out.
Chapter III I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I see it is there. I still fall in ... it's a habit. My eyes are open. I know where I am. It is my fault. I get out immediately.
Chapter IV I walk down the same street. There is a deep hole in the sidewalk. I walk around it.
Chapter V I walk down another street.
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Post by Digi on Feb 19, 2020 1:45:06 GMT
I have a feeling this originates elsewhere, but I just heard it in an episode of Narcos MX:
"Life is a long journey with a map written by a fool."
Clever, made me chuckle.
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Post by grinch on Feb 19, 2020 19:34:15 GMT
A trifle cliché perhaps but I utterly adore this one from Don Quixote.
“When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? Perhaps to be too practical is madness. To surrender dreams — this may be madness. Too much sanity may be madness — and maddest of all: to see life as it is, and not as it should be!“
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Post by theotherjosh on Mar 4, 2020 19:36:56 GMT
“I have never seen a more sublime demonstration of the totalitarian mind, a mind which might be linked unto a system of gears where teeth have been filed off at random. Such snaggle-toothed thought machine, driven by a standard or even by a substandard libido, whirls with the jerky, noisy, gaudy pointlessness of a cuckoo clock in Hell. The boss G-man concluded wrongly that there were no teeth on the gears in the mind of Jones. 'You're completely crazy,' he said. Jones wasn't completely crazy. The dismaying thing about classic totalitarian mind is that any given gear, thought mutilated, will have at its circumference unbroken sequences of teeth that are immaculately maintained, that are exquisitely machined. Hence the cuckoo clock in Hell - keeping perfect time for eight minutes and twenty-three seconds, jumping ahead fourteen minutes, keeping perfect time for six seconds, jumping ahead two seconds, keeping perfect time for two hours and one second, then jumping ahead a year. The missing teeth, of course, are simple, obvious truths, truths available and comprehensible even to ten-year-olds, in most cases. The willful filling off a gear teeth, the willful doing without certain obvious pieces of information - That was how a household as contradictory as one composed of Jones, Father Keeley, Vice-Bundesfuehrer Krapptauer, and the Black Fuehrer could exist in relative harmony - That was how my father-in-law could contain in one mind an indifference toward slave women and love for a a blue vase - That was how Rudolf Hess, Commandant of Auschwitz, could alternate over the loudspeakers of Auschwitz great music and calls for corpse-carriers - That was how Nazi Germany sensed no important difference between civilization and hydrophobia - That is the closest I can come to explaining the legions, the nations of lunatics I've seen in my time.” ― Kurt Vonnegut, Mother Night
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 10, 2020 10:28:31 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on May 31, 2020 18:25:53 GMT
Could be anything, from a film, from a writer, funny, serious. This is from Richard Burton's diary
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Post by grinch on May 31, 2020 19:03:08 GMT
Not sure if this is appropriate for this topic but (despite the series not being much cop) I really like this little villain speech.
“Evil? No... Visionary! I feel power building inside me. I see a world that only I can create. It was Azmuth who thought me flawed. He gave me the name Malware. But I am not the flawed one. It is all the rest that are inferior. They bend and stretch, mimic and manipulate only what others have created. I do not upgrade other's creations. THEY upgrade ME! And I will upgrade myself with Azmuth's greatest creation.“ (Ben 10 Omniverse)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 9:36:31 GMT
"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Winston Churchill
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 17:03:52 GMT
"Not a particle of evidence, Pip. Take nothing on its looks; take everything on evidence. There's no better rule." Mr Jaggers (Great Expectations, Dickens, C,. 1861)
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 6, 2020 19:05:56 GMT
The industrial area where my workplace is, is built on the area of a former Wehrmacht Barracks. Just around the corner from my workplace, they have placed a small art installation for a priest who spoke out against Hitler. He was drafted into the army during WWII and refused to pledge allegiance to Hitler. He was beheaded for treason. There is a quote at the art installation from that priest (Pater Franz Dionysius Reinisch): "I do not say, think or do things because other people say, think or do them. I do these things because I believe in them. There must be one person standing up against the abuse of authority."
This is as important today as it was back then.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 6, 2020 20:00:30 GMT
"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity."
Martin Luther King Jr
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