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Post by omega on Feb 23, 2017 3:58:05 GMT
No. Agents of SHIELD is still an ongoing TV show in the middle of a creative high point.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 23, 2017 4:12:01 GMT
No. Agents of SHIELD is still an ongoing TV show in the middle of a creative high point. Well, in fairness, so is Doctor Who.
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Post by omega on Feb 23, 2017 4:19:43 GMT
No. Agents of SHIELD is still an ongoing TV show in the middle of a creative high point. Well, in fairness, so is Doctor Who. The Big Finish audios began before the current show first aired, and had an established fanbase by that point. The only other medium I'm aware Agents of Shield has is a comic title, and hasn't made the foray into audio. Look at what happened with the Stargate range. The TV show fanbase didn't even give the audios a go because they wanted the TV show instead, and the recent podcast revealed that there were fans who thought the audio range was an active hindrance to new TV episodes.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 23, 2017 4:47:14 GMT
Well, in fairness, so is Doctor Who. The Big Finish audios began before the current show first aired, and had an established fanbase by that point. The only other medium I'm aware Agents of Shield has is a comic title, and hasn't made the foray into audio. Look at what happened with the Stargate range. The TV show fanbase didn't even give the audios a go because they wanted the TV show instead, and the recent podcast revealed that there were fans who thought the audio range was an active hindrance to new TV episodes. Fair enough.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 23, 2017 8:48:07 GMT
I've always thought we have the best drama format in the UK, with usually between six and twelve episodes per drama series. 22 episodes can work, but often with U.S. dramas it can result in the plot being dragged out too thin over the series. I don't think this is the case with Agents of SHIELD though. I think it absolutely is the case with AOS - and all the DC shows too. They ran the Inhumans arc into the ground with the need to fill the 22-24 ep order - so much so Marvel cancelled the Inhumans movie as the brand was tarnished (since revamped and back in development with no SHIELD ties). Just as they ran Grant Ward's continual comebacks into the ground. The best season of AOS is the mini-season of about 8 eps after SHIELD fell in Winter Soldier, so the last batch of eps from Season 1 essentially. Tight, thrilling and lean action. That's what the show could be with shorter, Netflix-length orders but hey, US Networks exist to sell advertising. Not make good TV. I rarely criticise the US showrunners - the need to create so much content is huge. Then to get absolutely zero concessions from fans that it's an impossible workload to keep the quality as high as they'd like must make it unbearable at times. "Make it more like Daredevil!" a lot of fans will say on forums when it comes to the Network comic book shows....I'd like to see Drew Goddard and co keep DD as good if they had to do 24 eps a year rather than 13 every 18 months. I blame the format, not the creators. I actually thought the Inhumans arc worked pretty well. There was never a moment where it became dull or you thought 'Just hurry up and make something happen'. I certainly don't think it tarnished the Inhumans, I reckon the film was cancelled because of the confusion that would have been caused. 'Are these the Agents of SHIELD Inhumans? No...? There's a royal family now?' Season 1 was probably the show's weakest season so far.
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Post by ollychops on Feb 23, 2017 17:56:31 GMT
Nope. I love the show, and as much as I'd like BF to do audios based on it, I can't see it happening.
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Post by constonks on Feb 23, 2017 18:14:12 GMT
If Disney wanted audios, I expect they'd have companies to handle that. Even if AOS had been off the air for years, I don't think they'd budge on that.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 23, 2017 18:47:51 GMT
Do you think Big Finish will ever get the license for Agents of SHIELD audios? Personally, I think Agents of SHIELD audios would be a lot of fun - and the cast would certainly be affordable. Clark Gregg does a lot of voiceover work too, so he'd probably agree to voice Coulson on audio. That's a BIG EMPHATIC NO! 1.Graphic Audio has the rights to Marvel. 2. SHIELD is an American property, and I don't recall any American products done by BF 3. SHEILD cant get viewers, what makes anyone think it will get listeners 4. Disney read your previous thread and boycotted anything you want, and you're banned from Disneyworld.(that's a joke, I didn't say it was a good one.)seriously, as a Disney property, they aint gonna ship any rights overseas, for the time being.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 23, 2017 18:57:47 GMT
Do you think Big Finish will ever get the license for Agents of SHIELD audios? Personally, I think Agents of SHIELD audios would be a lot of fun - and the cast would certainly be affordable. Clark Gregg does a lot of voiceover work too, so he'd probably agree to voice Coulson on audio. BF getting a Marvel Licence?
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 23, 2017 19:06:17 GMT
Interesting. I hadn't seen the Marvel audios site before. Wonder if they're any good? Compared to the DC audio's, NO! And I'm a Marvel fan. These are just reproductions of comic book stories, done with mediocre actors and a lot of special effect sounding. The Writing is not that great, and compared to BF(and since I discovered BF) these are really junk, IMO. Ive not bought anything from Graphic Audio since I discovered BF. The difference is huge. One thing they have going for them though, they know how to market, and who to market too. You can find a huge selection of Graphic Audio cd's at every truck stop in America. They have more cd's for sale at Pilot truck stops than BF will manufacture in the same year.(what I mean is, if BF sales 5000 of a cd, I would estimate GA has 5000 of a particular cd, just for sale in truck stops.) And you can hear them in a truck, something that you cant do with every BF release.
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Post by Ela on Feb 23, 2017 19:10:37 GMT
Interesting. I hadn't seen the Marvel audios site before. Wonder if they're any good? Compared to the DC audio's, NO! And I'm a Marvel fan. These are just reproductions of comic book stories, done with mediocre actors and a lot of special effect sounding. The Writing is not that great, and compared to BF(and since I discovered BF) these are really junk, IMO. Ive not bought anything from Graphic Audio since I discovered BF. The difference is huge. One thing they have going for them though, they know how to market, and who to market too. You can find a huge selection of Graphic Audio cd's at every truck stop in America. They have more cd's for sale at Pilot truck stops than BF will manufacture in the same year.(what I mean is, if BF sales 5000 of a cd, I would estimate GA has 5000 of a particular cd, just for sale in truck stops.) And you can hear them in a truck, something that you cant do with every BF release. Thanks for the feedback.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 23, 2017 19:12:55 GMT
No. Agents of SHIELD is still an ongoing TV show in the middle of a creative high point. Well, in fairness, so is Doctor Who. Well, not if you read the golden age of doctor who thread. That was a few years back.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 23, 2017 19:16:57 GMT
Nope. I love the show, and as much as I'd like BF to do audios based on it, I can't see it happening. I sorta figured you loved the show...but thanks for the confirmation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 19:31:57 GMT
I mean it would be fun, but no, I don't think they would.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 23, 2017 19:59:39 GMT
Well, in fairness, so is Doctor Who. Well, not if you read the golden age of doctor who thread. That was a few years back. Whether or not this is the golden age of Doctor Who, the show is still at a highpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 20:03:56 GMT
Well, not if you read the golden age of doctor who thread. That was a few years back. Whether or not this is the golden age of Doctor Who, the show is still at a highpoint. I'd agree with that. Sure, I often do prefer the older episodes of Doctor Who that I grew up with to the new series, but any show that gets a 'special' episode on BBC1 on Christmas Day is a TV show that is doing well.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 23, 2017 20:21:19 GMT
Well, not if you read the golden age of doctor who thread. That was a few years back. Whether or not this is the golden age of Doctor Who, the show is still at a highpoint. a creative highpoint? i don't think either show is at a creative highpoint, but i aint watched AOS since season 2, and from there, there was very little place left to go but up. Doctor Who creative highpoint? Um, no. It takes em a year to produce one episode on tv, and the new audios from BF aren't really as great, as many of their previous releases. They are still great, but BF spoiled me with their earlier work. Comic books, i don't know, novels, i don't know, but with the main medium being tv, no, it's not at a creative highpoint. I do hope this season makes me eat those words though.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 23, 2017 20:38:16 GMT
Whether or not this is the golden age of Doctor Who, the show is still at a highpoint. a creative highpoint? i don't think either show is at a creative highpoint, but i aint watched AOS since season 2, and from there, there was very little place left to go but up. Doctor Who creative highpoint? Um, no. It takes em a year to produce one episode on tv, and the new audios from BF aren't really as great, as many of their previous releases. They are still great, but BF spoiled me with their earlier work. Comic books, i don't know, novels, i don't know, but with the main medium being tv, no, it's not at a creative highpoint. I do hope this season makes me eat those words though. I haven't watched AOS since about three episodes into the first season, so I can't speak for that. On TV, Doctor Who is at a creative high point. They took 2016 off for some reason, but the show has been consistently good for the last few years. The most recent season had The Magicians Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar, Face the Raven, and Heaven Sent, which are all going to be remembered as classics for years to come. Actually, the only really bad episode in the past season was Sleep No More.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 20:44:08 GMT
a creative highpoint? i don't think either show is at a creative highpoint, but i aint watched AOS since season 2, and from there, there was very little place left to go but up. Doctor Who creative highpoint? Um, no. It takes em a year to produce one episode on tv, and the new audios from BF aren't really as great, as many of their previous releases. They are still great, but BF spoiled me with their earlier work. Comic books, i don't know, novels, i don't know, but with the main medium being tv, no, it's not at a creative highpoint. I do hope this season makes me eat those words though. I haven't watched AOS since about three episodes into the first season, so I can't speak for that. On TV, Doctor Who is at a creative high point. They took 2016 off for some reason, but the show has been consistently good for the last few years. The most recent season had The Magicians Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar, Face the Raven, and Heaven Sent, which are all going to be remembered as classics for years to come. Actually, the only really bad episode in the past season was Sleep No More. I agree, while there has been clunkers, there has been a many good if not great episodes. And also, the classic series had it share of clunkers too(Warriors of the Deep)
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Post by doomlord on Feb 23, 2017 23:30:56 GMT
Another company already has the rights to produce audios of some Marvel properties, so it is indeed very unlikely that Big Finish would get a licence to do Marvel audios at the same time, even if they are deemed to be 'smaller' properties. I didn't know that. Who has the rights? As you so eloquently put to another member earlier today.... "Yeah, where've you been?!?"
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