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Post by omega on Mar 12, 2017 8:24:49 GMT
Doctor Who - The Ninth Doctor ChroniclesReleased May 2017 (will be available outside of Big Finish July 30th 2017SynopsisFour news stories from the Ninth Doctor’s era, performed by Nicholas Briggs. Featuring Bruno Langley as Adam Mitchell and Camille Coduri as Jackie Tyler. 1. The Bleeding Heart by Cavan Scott Featuring Claire Wyatt as Adriana JarsdelGalen is a place where people come to heal. The renowned ‘planet of peace’ seems the ideal venue for talks between two warring races. But when death disrupts the diplomacy, Cosmic Nine news reporter Adriana Jarsdel uncovers a different story. Luckily, someone is there to help. A battle-weary veteran from another war. The Doctor has come to Galen – but is he looking for peace, or something else entirely? 2. The Window on the Moor by Una McCormack Featuring Laura Risborough as Emily BrontëEmily and her sisters once told each other fables of warring kingdoms: wicked princes, noble dukes, and their battling armies. Now she wanders the moors of her childhood alone, remembering those tales. The TARDIS arrives amid a strange civil war, with prisons made of glass and cities stalked by terrifying beasts. As windows open between worlds, stories and storyteller meet, and Rose comes face to face with Emily Brontë. 3. The Other Side by Scott Handcock Featuring Bruno Langley as Adam MitchellRose has invited a new friend on board the TARDIS, against the Doctor’s better judgement. But when the Time Lord tries to take his unwelcome guest home, a temporal tsunami cuts the journey short. The travellers find the source of the disturbance inside an abandoned cinema. Will Adam Mitchell help or hinder when the Doctor and Rose discover what is lurking on the other side of the screen? 4. Retail Therapy by James Goss Featuring Camille Coduri as Jackie TylerJackie Tyler is a success. Every home should have a Glubby Glub, and Jackie is star saleswoman on the Powell Estate. At last, she’s found her calling and it’s only a matter of time before she can give Rose the life she deserves. But the Doctor isn’t impressed. Jackie Tyler isn’t just filling peoples’ houses with useless clutter. He believes she’s launching an alien invasion… Written By: Cavan Scott, Una McCormack, Scott Handcock and James Goss Directed By: Helen Goldwyn CASTNicholas Briggs (Narrator), Claire Wyatt (Adriana Jarsdel), Bruno Langley (Adam Mitchell), Camille Coduri (Jackie Tyler), Laura Risborough (Emily Brontë). Technical DetailsWritten By: Cavan Scott, Una McCormack, Scott Handcock and James Goss Director: Helen Goldwyn Sound Design: Joe Meiners Music: Ioan Morris & Rhys Downing Cover Art: Tom Webster Number of Discs: 4 Duration: 240' approx Physical Retail ISBN: 978-1-78703-223-1 Digital Retail ISBN: 978-1-78703-224 Production Code: BFP9THCCD01 Recorded Dates: 22nd September 2016, 16th/17th January, 13th February 2017 Recorded At: The Moat Studios, The Soundhouse Product Format: 4-disc CD (jewel case in slipcover)
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Post by omega on Mar 12, 2017 8:28:01 GMT
The Bleeding Heart obviously takes place for the Ninth Doctor in that scene at the end of Rose where the TARDIS leaves and comes back. The short story The Beast of Babylon (written for the 50th anniversary) also takes place in this gap. The Window on the Moor probably takes place before Dalek, since The Other Side takes place after The Long Game. There isn't enough context yet for when Retail Therapy takes place.
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Mar 12, 2017 8:50:11 GMT
The Other Side takes place after The Long Game. I'll ask you, when does this have time to transpire? From the time 9 is kicking his ass into the tardis or the time 9 is kicking his ass coming out of the tardis? Does anyone think they actually had tea and biscuits in the tardis? BF can spin it anyway they like, but if it's gonna be canon, it's gotta take place sometime before the end of the Long Game, and I don't think it could have happened in between Dalek and the Long Game. I am very interested to see where this story will fit into the timelines subforum, to me, those are the real timelines of doctor who, and if anyone can make em fit, its Billy2
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Post by omega on Mar 12, 2017 8:57:18 GMT
The Other Side takes place after The Long Game. I'll ask you, when does this have time to transpire? From the time 9 is kicking his ass into the tardis or the time 9 is kicking his ass coming out of the tardis? Does anyone think they actually had tea and biscuits in the tardis? BF can spin it anyway they like, but if it's gonna be canon, it's gotta take place sometime before the end of the Long Game, and I don't think it could have happened in between Dalek and the Long Game. I am very interested to see where this story will fit into the timelines subforum, to me, those are the real timelines of doctor who, and if anyone can make em fit, its Billy2 It's possible there could be a story between after the TARDIS leaves Satellite Five and before it arrives in Adam's living room. The synopsis hints at Adam potentially being a hindrance, and the circumstances the story takes place in leave the Doctor with little alternative but in investigate there. All we know is that when the TARDIS arrives in Adams' home time and place that the Doctor is cross with him, aware that he's transmitted data back to an iPadless 2012 and Rose being disappointed. The Other Side could even show the Doctor learning of Adam phoning the information back to 2012, either through the TARDIS instruments or another force in the story itself.
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 12, 2017 9:23:42 GMT
The Other Side takes place after The Long Game. I'll ask you, when does this have time to transpire? From the time 9 is kicking his ass into the tardis or the time 9 is kicking his ass coming out of the tardis? Does anyone think they actually had tea and biscuits in the tardis? BF can spin it anyway they like, but if it's gonna be canon, it's gotta take place sometime before the end of the Long Game, and I don't think it could have happened in between Dalek and the Long Game. I am very interested to see where this story will fit into the timelines subforum, to me, those are the real timelines of doctor who, and if anyone can make em fit, its Billy2 Scott Handcock said over on the other Ninth Doctor Chronicles thread that The Other Side will take place between Dalek and The Long Game. The 'justification' (not that it should really need one) is that Adam *could* have had other adventures, it's just he didn't see anything quite as shocking as the view of Earth from Satellite 5, explaining his fainting then.
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Post by omega on Mar 12, 2017 9:28:43 GMT
I'll ask you, when does this have time to transpire? From the time 9 is kicking his ass into the tardis or the time 9 is kicking his ass coming out of the tardis? Does anyone think they actually had tea and biscuits in the tardis? BF can spin it anyway they like, but if it's gonna be canon, it's gotta take place sometime before the end of the Long Game, and I don't think it could have happened in between Dalek and the Long Game. I am very interested to see where this story will fit into the timelines subforum, to me, those are the real timelines of doctor who, and if anyone can make em fit, its Billy2 Scott Handcock said over on the other Ninth Doctor Chronicles thread that The Other Side will take place between Dalek and The Long Game. The 'justification' (not that it should really need one) is that Adam *could* have had other adventures, it's just he didn't see anything quite as shocking as the view of Earth from Satellite 5, explaining his fainting then. I interpreted this line: "But when the Time Lord tries to take his unwelcome guest home" as the Doctor bringing Adam home after his lack of responsibility during The Long Game, coupled with Adam potentially helping or hindering to do with the fact he couldn't be trusted after the consequences of said lack of responsibility. It is plausible that the Doctor could have tried to take Adam home immediately, and Adam earns some of the Doctor's trust in this story (hence why the Doctor would be as cross as he was when Adam abused time travel for his personal gain).
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 12, 2017 13:14:21 GMT
Scott Handcock said over on the other Ninth Doctor Chronicles thread that The Other Side will take place between Dalek and The Long Game. The 'justification' (not that it should really need one) is that Adam *could* have had other adventures, it's just he didn't see anything quite as shocking as the view of Earth from Satellite 5, explaining his fainting then. I interpreted this line: "But when the Time Lord tries to take his unwelcome guest home" as the Doctor bringing Adam home after his lack of responsibility during The Long Game, coupled with Adam potentially helping or hindering to do with the fact he couldn't be trusted after the consequences of said lack of responsibility. It is plausible that the Doctor could have tried to take Adam home immediately, and Adam earns some of the Doctor's trust in this story (hence why the Doctor would be as cross as he was when Adam abused time travel for his personal gain). I also thought the synopsis made it sound like the story took place between the TARDIS leaving Satellite Five and arriving in Adam's house, but clearly not. Your theory about the Doctor initially wanting to take Adam home after Dalek but before The Long Game is probably right.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 12, 2017 15:34:48 GMT
The Bleeding Heart obviously takes place for the Ninth Doctor in that scene at the end of Rose where the TARDIS leaves and comes back. The short story The Beast of Babylon (written for the 50th anniversary) also takes place in this gap. The Window on the Moor probably takes place before Dalek, since The Other Side takes place after The Long Game. There isn't enough context yet for when Retail Therapy takes place. Why can't Bleeding Heart be pre- Rose? From its synopsis it sounds like it's literally just after the Time War, plus Big Finish have already set one story pre- Rose. Also The O ther Side was confirmed to be between Dalek and Long Game on another thread
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Post by Polar Bear on Mar 14, 2017 20:57:18 GMT
Big Finish have already set one story pre- Rose. What story is that?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 14, 2017 22:32:53 GMT
Big Finish have already set one story pre- Rose. What story is that? {Spoiler} I believe The Oncoming Storm is set there, featuring an grumpier and less wanting to be involved ninth Doctor
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Post by Zagreus on Mar 15, 2017 4:01:29 GMT
{Spoiler} I believe The Oncoming Storm is set there, featuring an grumpier and less wanting to be involved ninth Doctor Current intent from Moffat is that Day takes place right before Rose for War/Nine. The Beast of Babylon and, IIRC, at least one other story, establish that Nine travels around a bit before coming back to tell Rose that the TARDIS is also a time machine, which is as good a gap as any to place all his solo grumpy adventures in. Until something comes along and explicitly contradicts this, it's what we've got to go by.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 9:48:26 GMT
{Spoiler} I believe The Oncoming Storm is set there, featuring an grumpier and less wanting to be involved ninth Doctor I don't think that it has been offically stated as a pre-Rose story though, has it?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 15, 2017 10:28:05 GMT
{Spoiler} I believe The Oncoming Storm is set there, featuring an grumpier and less wanting to be involved ninth Doctor I don't think that it has been offically stated as a pre-Rose story though, has it? Big Finish seldom officially state the placement of audios, so it's an inference but it works fine. Rose is not expliclity immediately after the Time War, even The Beast of Babylon leaves some wiggle room.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 12:11:44 GMT
I don't think that it has been offically stated as a pre-Rose story though, has it? Big Finish seldom officially state the placement of audios, so it's an inference but it works fine. Rose is not expliclity immediately after the Time War, even The Beast of Babylon leaves some wiggle room. They used to, in the Main Range anyway, then they ran in to some difficulties when a couple of the production codes were wrong so yeah, now they generally don't state the placement of audios. (I assume the authors know where a story they have wrote is set though, so sometimes we do get to know what an author intends re placement.) I am not a continuity geek, but I would prefer to put those Ninth Doctor stories within the Rose era myself. Of course, wiggle room is a great thing and we can all be happy using it to keep our own heads happy.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 16, 2017 2:56:12 GMT
{Spoiler} I believe The Oncoming Storm is set there, featuring an grumpier and less wanting to be involved ninth Doctor Current intent from Moffat is that Day takes place right before Rose for War/Nine. The Beast of Babylon and, IIRC, at least one other story, establish that Nine travels around a bit before coming back to tell Rose that the TARDIS is also a time machine, which is as good a gap as any to place all his solo grumpy adventures in. Until something comes along and explicitly contradicts this, it's what we've got to go by. He seems to hold two conflicting opinions on whether Day takes place right before Rose
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Post by Polar Bear on Mar 18, 2017 21:51:09 GMT
Current intent from Moffat is that Day takes place right before Rose for War/Nine. The Beast of Babylon and, IIRC, at least one other story, establish that Nine travels around a bit before coming back to tell Rose that the TARDIS is also a time machine, which is as good a gap as any to place all his solo grumpy adventures in. Until something comes along and explicitly contradicts this, it's what we've got to go by. He seems to hold two conflicting opinions on whether Day takes place right before Rose Thanks for the answer. As to the discussion, IMO Rose can't possibly be immediately post-Day because of Clive & his website (introduced & eliminated in "Rose"). The website has photos of him doing plenty of things, but no Rose photos; furthermore, the way Davies usually worked causality, those photos couldn't be there unless the Doctor had already made those trips in his subjective timeline prior to meeting Rose. So yeah, I have a hard time seeing how the Doctor hasn't already made several solo trips, at least to Earth, pre-Rose.
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Post by relativetime on Mar 18, 2017 21:54:37 GMT
He seems to hold two conflicting opinions on whether Day takes place right before Rose Thanks for the answer. As to the discussion, IMO Rose can't possibly be immediately post-Day because of Clive & his website (introduced & eliminated in "Rose"). There are plenty of Doctor photos, but no Rose photos, and the way Davies usually worked causality, those photo as couldn't be there unless the Doctor had already made those trips in his subjective timeline prior to meeting Rose. I kind of always thought he had many of those adventures just between Rose turning him down and then dematerializing again. The photos she'd seen before were his way of proving to her the TARDIS can travel in time.
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Post by Polar Bear on Mar 26, 2017 11:19:58 GMT
Thanks for the answer. As to the discussion, IMO Rose can't possibly be immediately post-Day because of Clive & his website (introduced & eliminated in "Rose"). There are plenty of Doctor photos, but no Rose photos, and the way Davies usually worked causality, those photo as couldn't be there unless the Doctor had already made those trips in his subjective timeline prior to meeting Rose. I kind of always thought he had many of those adventures just between Rose turning him down and then dematerializing again. The photos she'd seen before were his way of proving to her the TARDIS can travel in time. Moffatt had causality work that way quite frequently, but "Rose" was in the Davies era, when effect followed cause. Those photos couldn't have been there unless the Doctor had already been there in his subjective timeline. No paradox needed.
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Post by constonks on Mar 26, 2017 11:43:49 GMT
I kind of always thought he had many of those adventures just between Rose turning him down and then dematerializing again. The photos she'd seen before were his way of proving to her the TARDIS can travel in time. Moffatt had causality work that way quite frequently, but "Rose" was in the Davies era, when effect followed cause. Those photos couldn't have been there unless the Doctor had already been there in his subjective timeline. No paradox needed. So when the Doctor showed Martha Jones his tie...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 3:29:53 GMT
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS!
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