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Chancellery Guard
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Post by bobod on Jul 24, 2017 10:20:38 GMT
Just finished listening to it. There's no getting away from the fact that Americans are quite bad at this sort of acting. Everyone sounds very stilted and unnatural and I wasn't surprised to hear Duchovny say at SDCC that the lines were being recorded as he was reading them for the first time. There are an awful lot of American actors. The Dark Shadows actors, for example, are, on the whole, terrific at 'this sort of acting'. And there are LOADS of *excellent* talking books read by American actors.
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Post by jasonward on Jul 24, 2017 11:06:42 GMT
Just finished listening to it. There's no getting away from the fact that Americans are quite bad at this sort of acting. Everyone sounds very stilted and unnatural and I wasn't surprised to hear Duchovny say at SDCC that the lines were being recorded as he was reading them for the first time. I suspect issues like these are far more down to direction and production values, I'm pretty confident that had BF had the same actors and script things would have sounded different.
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bobod
Chancellery Guard
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Post by bobod on Jul 24, 2017 11:11:33 GMT
Just finished listening to it. There's no getting away from the fact that Americans are quite bad at this sort of acting. Everyone sounds very stilted and unnatural and I wasn't surprised to hear Duchovny say at SDCC that the lines were being recorded as he was reading them for the first time. I suspect issues like these are far more down to direction and production values, I'm pretty confident that had BF had the same actors and script things would have sounded different. Different maybe. But there was at least one BF production bod involved, and Dirk Maggs is a legendary audio director / producer. So the quality of the working team is at least on a par.
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Post by muckypup on Jul 24, 2017 11:14:46 GMT
Just finished listening to it. There's no getting away from the fact that Americans are quite bad at this sort of acting. Everyone sounds very stilted and unnatural and I wasn't surprised to hear Duchovny say at SDCC that the lines were being recorded as he was reading them for the first time. There are an awful lot of American actors. The Dark Shadows actors, for example, are, on the whole, terrific at 'this sort of acting'. And there are LOADS of *excellent* talking books read by American actors.
Yes some of the dark shadows actors are excellent at audio drama......but mentioning no names some of the are not. the production on the dark shadows releases brings them to life and makes up for the odd short coming. but truthfully and I am sorry my US friends, but American TV actors generally are not great at audio acting and duchovny proves that in this release, monotone is the order of the day for his performance and it mars the whole release. its not terrible and worth the credit but it's the weakest Dirk Maggs production I can think of. bit dissapointed in it, mostly down to duchovny.
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Post by jasonward on Jul 24, 2017 11:44:52 GMT
Duchovny can act, although part of his skill is the way he looks, he voice tends to flatness, his mannerism make up for that, but I still think that something like this comes down to a combination of direction and the time needed to retake until its got right.
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Post by Trace on Jul 25, 2017 2:01:23 GMT
Just finished listening to it. There's no getting away from the fact that Americans are quite bad at this sort of acting. Everyone sounds very stilted and unnatural and I wasn't surprised to hear Duchovny say at SDCC that the lines were being recorded as he was reading them for the first time. I don't even know where to begin with that one! Sweeping generalizations are never on target, and I guess that's the best I can manage, dumbstruck that I am!
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Post by Trace on Jul 25, 2017 2:02:26 GMT
There are an awful lot of American actors. The Dark Shadows actors, for example, are, on the whole, terrific at 'this sort of acting'. And there are LOADS of *excellent* talking books read by American actors.
Yes some of the dark shadows actors are excellent at audio drama......but mentioning no names some of the are not. the production on the dark shadows releases brings them to life and makes up for the odd short coming. but truthfully and I am sorry my US friends, but American TV actors generally are not great at audio acting and duchovny proves that in this release, monotone is the order of the day for his performance and it mars the whole release. its not terrible and worth the credit but it's the weakest Dirk Maggs production I can think of. bit dissapointed in it, mostly down to duchovny. Or this one!! Muckypup! Not you too???
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Post by stcoop on Jul 25, 2017 9:17:29 GMT
Just finished listening to it. There's no getting away from the fact that Americans are quite bad at this sort of acting. Everyone sounds very stilted and unnatural and I wasn't surprised to hear Duchovny say at SDCC that the lines were being recorded as he was reading them for the first time. I don't even know where to begin with that one! Sweeping generalizations are never on target, and I guess that's the best I can manage, dumbstruck that I am! Let's narrow it down then. Every performance in this particular release is terrible, even when coming from people who have demonstrated their acting ability in other mediums. Better?
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Post by omega on Jul 25, 2017 9:22:45 GMT
Are these actors used to the audio medium? Maybe they're used to putting a physical element into their performances that's lost on audio.
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Post by muckypup on Jul 25, 2017 10:05:26 GMT
Yes some of the dark shadows actors are excellent at audio drama......but mentioning no names some of the are not. the production on the dark shadows releases brings them to life and makes up for the odd short coming. but truthfully and I am sorry my US friends, but American TV actors generally are not great at audio acting and duchovny proves that in this release, monotone is the order of the day for his performance and it mars the whole release. its not terrible and worth the credit but it's the weakest Dirk Maggs production I can think of. bit dissapointed in it, mostly down to duchovny. Or this one!! Muckypup! Not you too??? I don't mean all American actors, its just audio acting is a skill they don't have and have never learnt because audio drama is not something that has been "a thing" for a long time in the US. Duchovny has no skill in audio acting and it shows.
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Post by omega on Jul 25, 2017 10:20:28 GMT
Or this one!! Muckypup! Not you too??? I don't mean all American actors, its just audio acting is a skill they don't have and have never learnt because audio drama is not something that has been "a thing" for a long time in the US. Duchovny has no skill in audio acting and it shows. This bleepin' line from season 3's Jose Chung's 'From Outer Space': "And the other one, the tall lanky one, his face was so blank and expressionless. I think he was a mandroid."
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Post by kimalysong on Jul 25, 2017 17:34:48 GMT
Well as I said earlier my order for this was unexpectedly canceled and I had to reorder if I wanted it again. Even though I did like the trailer based on the comments here I think I will save myself the $20 something bucks this cost.
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Post by Ela on Jul 25, 2017 18:38:20 GMT
Just finished listening to it. There's no getting away from the fact that Americans are quite bad at this sort of acting. Everyone sounds very stilted and unnatural and I wasn't surprised to hear Duchovny say at SDCC that the lines were being recorded as he was reading them for the first time. I don't even know where to begin with that one! Sweeping generalizations are never on target, and I guess that's the best I can manage, dumbstruck that I am! I couldn't have said it better.
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Post by Ela on Jul 25, 2017 18:40:46 GMT
Or this one!! Muckypup! Not you too??? I don't mean all American actors, its just audio acting is a skill they don't have and have never learnt because audio drama is not something that has been "a thing" for a long time in the US. Duchovny has no skill in audio acting and it shows. Why say "American" actors? If you think the acting on this was bad, that's one thing. It's the generalization to all American actors that's a problem. Maybe just saying that these actors didn't seem to do well in audio drama would have been better, rather than tying it to actors of a particular country.
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Post by muckypup on Jul 25, 2017 23:01:05 GMT
I don't mean all American actors, its just audio acting is a skill they don't have and have never learnt because audio drama is not something that has been "a thing" for a long time in the US. Duchovny has no skill in audio acting and it shows. Why say "American" actors? If you think the acting on this was bad, that's one thing. It's the generalization to all American actors that's a problem. Maybe just saying that these actors didn't seem to do well in audio drama would have been better, rather than tying it to actors of a particular country. I think you guys are misunderstanding exactly what I mean.....maybe this will clarify take a tv actor from a uk series like dr who, blakes 7, etc and they get how to do audio drama from the start, it was part of their schooling and audio drama is something they often do before getting their big break, they understand how just to use their voice. but you take a US predominately TV actor with no radio experience and you often get audiobook mode or dramatic voice over man. It's very different from acting on screen. its like when you get a two-bit tv personality and try to get them to present something....more often than not they a hopeless at it.....it's a skill that needs to be leant i don't really need to say that there are tons of Americans that are great at it and as many brits who are not, do I? i am afraid its it's directed at Americans because that's where most of the actors come from that are guilty of this and of course there are always exceptions and it's a bit of a generalisation. But it is most obvious to my ears at least, that the American accent sounds very different from when they are acting on screen and just voice acting, it comes across as stiff or over blown like they are delivering a proclamation. It's nothing against Americans you guys do other stuff just as good as us. Its like when when you say us brits do rubbish American accents that's fair, but not everyone is terrible but the good ones have to work at it like Hugh Laurie. Maybe I should just say us brits are World beating at voice acting! This is all getting a very very long way my original light hearted comment, blooming heck it's easy to see how wars get started but after all this, duchovny is still rubbish on x-files cold cases......I see today they have announced another volume for release in October......I don't think I will be preordering.....hehehe
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Post by Ela on Jul 25, 2017 23:41:15 GMT
Sorry, you're not making it better, muckypup. Still stereotyping. Maybe you should quit while you're ahead.
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Post by omega on Jul 26, 2017 10:25:29 GMT
Let me wade in here. As far as I know radio isn't as big a medium for storytelling in the US as it is the UK, so actors aren't always trained for expressing characters through just their voice. David Duchovny's style acting wasn't that expressive on-screen (hence my earlier quote from Jose Chung's about the mandroid), so it doesn't translate well to audio.
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Post by stcoop on Jul 26, 2017 13:27:33 GMT
Sorry, you're not making it better, muckypup . Still stereotyping. Maybe you should quit while you're ahead. It's completely accurate and you just seem to be hyper-sensitive on the subject. Put any American actor who's never had do audio work up against a British actor who will have had experience in the medium and the comparison will be obvious.
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Post by Ela on Jul 26, 2017 14:04:31 GMT
Not hypersensitive, just don't like stereotyping of any group. And I'm certainly not the only one who objected to the characterization.
But I'm not interested in arguing it further, as clearly your mind is made up.
Let's move on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 19:51:14 GMT
I listened to the first hour commuting today and wow....Duchovny is terrible. I ADORE him in the show, Californnication, Twin Peaks and Aquarius but he's just not trying here. Part of his performance is his laid back drawl but don't let that be confused with what he's giving here which is just zero effort. There's a part with a helicopter in the first hour that he should be at least worried about but he delivers it so flatly it was risible.
But hey, for the "it's an American thing" argument....I'd say Anderson doesn't do much better than Duchovny and she's a Brit. While Pileggi and William B Davis do just fine and they're Americans.
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