|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 8:15:55 GMT
Derek Jacobi is back: www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-war-master-16811. Beneath the Viscoid by Nicholas Briggs On the ocean planet Gardezza, deep beneath the Viscoid, a mysterious capsule is recovered from the Time War, and an equally mysterious stranger found within. The Doctor’s reputation precedes him, even here… but can he be trusted? 2. The Good Master by Janine H. Jones The Time War rages around Arcking - a planet serving as a sanctuary for the sick and injured. But Arcking is protected by a mysterious, powerful force: a force the Master will stop at nothing to harness… even if time itself is against him. 3. The Sky Man by James Goss When his new companion decides to save a planet, the Master indulges this most futile of requests. Materialising on a primitive, agrarian world, both the strangers quickly find their place in it… until fallout from the War invades their happy paradise. 4. The Heavenly Paradigm by Guy Adams With his plans approaching fruition, the Master travels to Stamford Bridge in the 1970s: a location he believes might hold the key to his success. But what terrible secret lurks under the stairs of No. 24 Marigold Lane? And what sacrifices will the Master make in the name of ultimate victory? This is a cool idea, but I am intrigued as to how Derek Jacobi's Master works here. Is he an anti-hero, or are we purely following the antagonist's journey to achieving evil deeds? If the latter, who is the protagonist?
|
|
|
Post by omega on Jun 16, 2017 8:17:34 GMT
I'm curious to see how Janine does. It's unusual for a new writer to be on such a high profile release.
|
|
|
Post by acousticwolf on Jun 16, 2017 8:27:17 GMT
This is a cool idea, but I am intrigued as to how Derek Jacobi's Master works here. Is he an anti-hero, or are we purely following the antagonist's journey to achieving evil deeds? If the latter, who is the protagonist? Didn't Rassilon resurrect him for the Time War so he could fight? Knowing The Master, I should imagine he is working for them (on the surface) but at the same time looking to gain power for himself. It'll be interesting to see if the set ends with the Chameleon Arch. Clever of Big Finish ... Cheers Tony
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 8:28:10 GMT
This is a cool idea, but I am intrigued as to how Derek Jacobi's Master works here. Is he an anti-hero, or are we purely following the antagonist's journey to achieving evil deeds? If the latter, who is the protagonist? Potentially the people he's fighting against. The old TV21 Dalek stories used to do something similar. Our POV characters were the Daleks, but sometimes those they were battling against were either the heroes or something just as nasty as they were.
|
|
|
Post by omega on Jun 16, 2017 8:34:16 GMT
This also opens up the door for what the other renegade Time Lords were up to during the Time War. Did the Monk try to make things better? Did the Rani use the unique conditions for her experiments? She'd probably view the Time War as an annoying distraction! Did they join forces to try and bring an end to it?
|
|
|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 8:36:39 GMT
This is a cool idea, but I am intrigued as to how Derek Jacobi's Master works here. Is he an anti-hero, or are we purely following the antagonist's journey to achieving evil deeds? If the latter, who is the protagonist? Didn't Rassilon resurrect him for the Time War so he could fight? Knowing The Master, I should imagine he is working for them (on the surface) but at the same time looking to gain power for himself. It'll be interesting to see if the set ends with the Chameleon Arch. Clever of Big Finish ... Cheers Tony That seems like the most likely explanation. The great thing about Derek Jacobi's Master is that he's essentially a blank slate, so it'll be interesting to see what Big Finish do with his incarnation. All we know about him is that he's pretty ruthless in the last few minutes of Utopia before he regenerates.
|
|
|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 8:37:58 GMT
This is a cool idea, but I am intrigued as to how Derek Jacobi's Master works here. Is he an anti-hero, or are we purely following the antagonist's journey to achieving evil deeds? If the latter, who is the protagonist? Potentially the people he's fighting against. The old TV21 Dalek stories used to do something similar. Our POV characters were the Daleks, but sometimes those they were battling against were either the heroes or something just as nasty as they were. I suppose the Daleks are just as nasty as any incarnation of the Master, if not worse.
|
|
|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 8:39:37 GMT
This also opens up the door for what the other renegade Time Lords were up to during the Time War. Did the Monk try to make things better? Did the Rani use the unique conditions for her experiments? She'd probably view the Time War as an annoying distraction! Did they join forces to try and bring an end to it? Like Doctor Who's version of DC's Suicide Squad?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 8:46:52 GMT
Potentially the people he's fighting against. The old TV21 Dalek stories used to do something similar. Our POV characters were the Daleks, but sometimes those they were battling against were either the heroes or something just as nasty as they were. I suppose the Daleks are just as nasty as any incarnation of the Master, if not worse. Well, the Master doesn't torture people at least. Probably thinks it's a waste of time. The Daleks however, have turned it into a hobby. Their guns are deliberately tuned so that when they strike a target, the evoked potential is perfectly aligned to cause an excruciating amount of agony before they die.
|
|
|
Post by sherlock on Jun 16, 2017 8:50:12 GMT
This also opens up the door for what the other renegade Time Lords were up to during the Time War. Did the Monk try to make things better? Did the Rani use the unique conditions for her experiments? She'd probably view the Time War as an annoying distraction! Did they join forces to try and bring an end to it? Like Doctor Who's version of DC's Suicide Squad? I'd buy that. Maybe have Ollistra fulfilling the Waller-role and trying to control the Monk, the Rani and the Eleven (any other renegades I've missed?).
|
|
|
Post by sherlock on Jun 16, 2017 8:52:02 GMT
Am very excited for this. Jacobi's turn as the Master in Utopia was terrific and to have four stories worth coming is just brilliant.
|
|
|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 8:53:08 GMT
I suppose the Daleks are just as nasty as any incarnation of the Master, if not worse. Well, the Master doesn't torture people at least. Probably thinks it's a waste of time. The Daleks however, have turned it into a hobby. Their guns are deliberately tuned so that when they strike a target, the evoked potential is perfectly aligned to cause an excruciating amount of agony before they die. John Simm's Master did torture The Tenth Doctor and Captain Jack.
|
|
|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 8:55:26 GMT
Like Doctor Who's version of DC's Suicide Squad? I'd buy that. Maybe have Ollistra fulfilling the Waller-role and trying to control the Monk, the Rani and the Eleven (any other renegades I've missed?). Omega, if Big Finish could think of a way to have him leave his antimatter universe to fight in the Time War.
|
|
|
Post by omega on Jun 16, 2017 8:57:18 GMT
Like Doctor Who's version of DC's Suicide Squad? I'd buy that. Maybe have Ollistra fulfilling the Waller-role and trying to control the Monk, the Rani and the Eleven (any other renegades I've missed?). Drax. As long as he's not played for comedy like he was in the Drax Show, Guest Starring the Dumb Doctor and the Ice Queen Romana. Each of them have their skills. The Monk is a great person to have as a people person, the face of the group. The Rani is the scientific adviser. The Eleven can be the strategist (eleven lives on tap, that's got to have some tactical advantage). Drax can be tech support, fixing up the get-away TARDIS so it's fast and undetectable. And what better for plausible deniability than renegades? It worked when the Time Lords were using the Third and Fourth Doctor. The novel The Quantum Archangel at one point had many different timelines, including one where the renegade Time Lords teamed up.
|
|
|
Post by acousticwolf on Jun 16, 2017 9:02:53 GMT
All you need to do is see watch his Master performance - pure calculating evil in that face! Cheers Tony
|
|
|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 9:07:00 GMT
I'd buy that. Maybe have Ollistra fulfilling the Waller-role and trying to control the Monk, the Rani and the Eleven (any other renegades I've missed?). Drax. As long as he's not played for comedy like he was in the Drax Show, Guest Starring the Dumb Doctor and the Ice Queen Romana. Each of them have their skills. The Monk is a great person to have as a people person, the face of the group. The Rani is the scientific adviser. The Eleven can be the strategist (eleven lives on tap, that's got to have some tactical advantage). Drax can be tech support, fixing up the get-away TARDIS so it's fast and undetectable. And what better for plausible deniability than renegades? It worked when the Time Lords were using the Third and Fourth Doctor. The novel The Quantum Archangel at one point had many different timelines, including one where the renegade Time Lords teamed up. The War Monk - David Mitchell The War Rani - Gillian Anderson The War Eleven - Same actor, Mark Bonnar The War Drax - Simon Pegg (Wouldn't have to be a comedy Drax, Simon Pegg has done dramatic acting too)
|
|
|
Post by omega on Jun 16, 2017 9:13:50 GMT
Drax. As long as he's not played for comedy like he was in the Drax Show, Guest Starring the Dumb Doctor and the Ice Queen Romana. Each of them have their skills. The Monk is a great person to have as a people person, the face of the group. The Rani is the scientific adviser. The Eleven can be the strategist (eleven lives on tap, that's got to have some tactical advantage). Drax can be tech support, fixing up the get-away TARDIS so it's fast and undetectable. And what better for plausible deniability than renegades? It worked when the Time Lords were using the Third and Fourth Doctor. The novel The Quantum Archangel at one point had many different timelines, including one where the renegade Time Lords teamed up. The War Monk - David Mitchell The War Rani - Gillian Anderson The War Eleven - Same actor, Mark Bonnar The War Drax - Simon Pegg (Wouldn't have to be a comedy Drax, Simon Pegg has done dramatic acting too) I can definitely see the Monk looking disheveled, wanting things to go back to how they used to be. He'd probably come off like a theater owner who has fallen on hard times, trying to project an illusion of grandeur he just isn't truly feeling. Sort of like Henry Gordon Jago at a low point.
|
|
bobod
Chancellery Guard
Likes: 2,759
|
Post by bobod on Jun 16, 2017 9:15:24 GMT
|
|
|
Post by omega on Jun 16, 2017 9:18:58 GMT
I want an Armageddon Factor Drax, not a Trouble With (which I had a huge problem with btw). A Drax who brings levity, which is much needed in a Time War setting, but doesn't make the other characters look like chumps. Sort of like Vila in Blake's 7, getting the job done but not quietly.
|
|
|
Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 16, 2017 9:19:32 GMT
The War Monk - David Mitchell The War Rani - Gillian Anderson The War Eleven - Same actor, Mark Bonnar The War Drax - Simon Pegg (Wouldn't have to be a comedy Drax, Simon Pegg has done dramatic acting too) I can definitely see the Monk looking disheveled, wanting things to go back to how they used to be. He'd probably come off like a theater owner who has fallen on hard times, trying to project an illusion of grandeur he just isn't truly feeling. Sort of like Henry Gordon Jago at a low point. That's totally why I imagine David Mitchell would make a great War Monk.
|
|