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Post by Digi on Mar 4, 2018 18:11:53 GMT
Quick question; what happened to K9 in the Gallifrey series? Having not heard past sets, I’m not sure whether to expect him in some Time War shenanigans or not! Mark 1
Destroyed at the end of Series 2
Mark 2
Disappeared or Destroyed during 6
Regards
mark687
IIRC Mark II came back to Gallifrey from the Axis and participated in the events of 6.3, and nothing 'final' happened to him. I don't think we know where he is right now.
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Post by Digi on Mar 4, 2018 18:15:28 GMT
Thought: As of the end of this box set There are now two (and a 'half') Rassilons: the Warrington version (trapped in the Divergent universe), this version (resurrected from the matrix personality construct), and the matrix personality itself (though it's possible this was destroyed in the process of resurrecting the physical version).
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Post by mark687 on Mar 4, 2018 20:19:52 GMT
Thought: As of the end of this box set There are now two (and a 'half') Rassilons: the Warrington version (trapped in the Divergent universe), this version (resurrected from the matrix personality construct), and the matrix personality itself (though it's possible this was destroyed in the process of resurrecting the physical version). Oh don't get me started on the fact:
There's still never been a "Hi I'm home" moment since the 8th Doc escaped from the Diver grant between him and Romanna .
Regards
mark687
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Post by sherlock on Mar 4, 2018 20:26:43 GMT
Thought: As of the end of this box set There are now two (and a 'half') Rassilons: the Warrington version (trapped in the Divergent universe), this version (resurrected from the matrix personality construct), and the matrix personality itself (though it's possible this was destroyed in the process of resurrecting the physical version). Oh don't get me started on the fact:
There's still never been a "Hi I'm home" moment since the 8th Doc escaped from the Diver grant between him and Romanna .
Regards
mark687
Does seem a bit of an oddity that never happened, especially given how high the stakes were when he left.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 4, 2018 20:43:58 GMT
Mark 1
Destroyed at the end of Series 2
Mark 2
Disappeared or Destroyed during 6
Regards
mark687
Presumably one of them somehow ended up in the K-9 TV series after that. I believe it’s the mark 1....
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Post by Digi on Mar 4, 2018 21:06:24 GMT
Thought: As of the end of this box set There are now two (and a 'half') Rassilons: the Warrington version (trapped in the Divergent universe), this version (resurrected from the matrix personality construct), and the matrix personality itself (though it's possible this was destroyed in the process of resurrecting the physical version). Oh don't get me started on the fact:
There's still never been a "Hi I'm home" moment since the 8th Doc escaped from the Diver grant between him and Romanna .
Regards
mark687
So far as we've seen, he and Romana haven't crossed paths since he returned. His only real interactions with Gallifrey that we've seen have been 'remotely' (Lucie being dumped on him), meeting a Time Lord agent away from Gallifrey and everyone on it (Narvin in DE3), and a couple of brief, crisis-laden trips in Doom Coalition (when somebody else was President).
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Post by Digi on Mar 4, 2018 21:07:38 GMT
Presumably one of them somehow ended up in the K-9 TV series after that. The Australian TV Show version you mean?
Bizarrely its supposed to be constructed from the remains of Mark 1 to become Mark 1.5 though how they got to 21st century Earth from Galifrey I don't know
Regards
mark687
It's probably best if we just pretend that show didn't happen...
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 4, 2018 21:27:05 GMT
One of the things I have trouble wrapping my brain around is if this is a war burning through all time and space, why don't we see the other Doctors having to deal with the conflict? When Romana says the Doctor refuses to help, is she just talking about the 8th Doctor?
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 4, 2018 21:39:29 GMT
She is talking about the Eighth Doctor, yes. I’ve suggested it before, but I’d love a set where the Time War does touch upon older Doctors somewhat. The First Doctor Companion Chronicles set from last year did it quite effectively, I felt.
And on TV, Terror of the Zygons could now be perceived as the Zygons invading following the destruction of their home planet. Which we’ve since learnt was caused by the Time War.
The Seventh Doctor certainly seems like he’s aware of an impending Time War. Certainly based on his actions in Remembrance of the Daleks, and mentions in Damaged Goods and Cold Fusion.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 4, 2018 21:42:36 GMT
She is talking about the Eighth Doctor, yes. I’ve suggested it before, but I’d love a set where the Time War does touch upon older Doctors somewhat. The First Doctor Companion Chronicles set from last year did it quite effectively, I felt. And on TV, Terror of the Zygons could now be perceived as the Zygons invading following the destruction of their home planet. Which we’ve since learnt was caused by the Time War. The Seventh Doctor certainly seems like he’s aware of an impending Time War. Certainly based on his actions in Remembrance of the Daleks, and mentions in Damaged Goods and Cold Fusion. 7 is pretty much the first Doctor I think of first when wondering where the other Doctors were.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 4, 2018 21:53:23 GMT
One of the things I have trouble wrapping my brain around is if this is a war burning through all time and space, why don't we see the other Doctors having to deal with the conflict? When Romana says the Doctor refuses to help, is she just talking about the 8th Doctor? Can you imagine the Daleks’ reaction if the Time Lords got ALL of the Doctors involved? They’d be panicked into making some terribly “Reality Bomb” level stupid reactions. One Doctor was bad enough, for both sides, let alone nine of them (assuming future incarnations weren’t also involved).
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 4, 2018 21:59:28 GMT
She is talking about the Eighth Doctor, yes. I’ve suggested it before, but I’d love a set where the Time War does touch upon older Doctors somewhat. The First Doctor Companion Chronicles set from last year did it quite effectively, I felt. And on TV, Terror of the Zygons could now be perceived as the Zygons invading following the destruction of their home planet. Which we’ve since learnt was caused by the Time War. The Seventh Doctor certainly seems like he’s aware of an impending Time War. Certainly based on his actions in Remembrance of the Daleks, and mentions in Damaged Goods and Cold Fusion. Which raises an interesting question - what stories could be construed now as being fallout from the Time War? Terror of the Zygons. Horns of the Nimon maybe? Image of the Fendahl? Maybe it wasn’t the Dcotor’s ancestors that Time Looped Planet 5, but the War Council to stop the Daleks weaponising the Fendahl. Is Azal the last of the Daemons because of the War? what caused the Kroton ship to crash? Daleks? what wiped out the Xeraphon? The Time Lords?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 4, 2018 22:15:56 GMT
She is talking about the Eighth Doctor, yes. I’ve suggested it before, but I’d love a set where the Time War does touch upon older Doctors somewhat. The First Doctor Companion Chronicles set from last year did it quite effectively, I felt. And on TV, Terror of the Zygons could now be perceived as the Zygons invading following the destruction of their home planet. Which we’ve since learnt was caused by the Time War. The Seventh Doctor certainly seems like he’s aware of an impending Time War. Certainly based on his actions in Remembrance of the Daleks, and mentions in Damaged Goods and Cold Fusion. Which raises an interesting question - what stories could be construed now as being fallout from the Time War? Terror of the Zygons. Horns of the Nimon maybe? Image of the Fendahl? Maybe it wasn’t the Dcotor’s ancestors that Time Looped Planet 5, but the War Council to stop the Daleks weaponising the Fendahl. Is Azal the last of the Daemons because of the War? what caused the Kroton ship to crash? Daleks? what wiped out the Xeraphon? The Time Lords? The backstory behind The Reaping could be interpreted as linking to the War (at least in my head). We know from Rose the Nestenes lost their protein worlds due to the War, so perhaps all of the Nestenes' invasions have been caused by that? Perhaps the Daleks in The Chase were from or just before the Time War era, seeking to eliminate the Doctor at an early stage of his life? Perhaps the Daleks in The Power of the Daleks were survivors of a skirmish in the War? Perhaps the number of solar flares that affect Earth were side-effects of the War, since we know stellar manipulation is a big part of Time Lord technology? Perhaps the catastrophe that robbed the Chameleons of their identities was a result of the War?
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 4, 2018 22:19:08 GMT
The Australian TV Show version you mean?
Bizarrely its supposed to be constructed from the remains of Mark 1 to become Mark 1.5 though how they got to 21st century Earth from Galifrey I don't know
Regards
mark687
It's probably best if we just pretend that show didn't happen... Aaawww Does that mean this show would be my entertainment guilty pleasure? Seriously though, I actually quite like it, but that might have something to do with the fact that I was very much the target audience when I first saw it (I would have been about 12). It's basically a Classic Who budget in the modern era It's very tacky, but it's also a bit of fun Incidentally, I've always assumed it was K9 Mk IV from having watched it so many times, but thinking logically it could only be Mk II. Given what happens in Regeneration (the first episode of the K9 TV series), it would make sense that he had spent a little bit of time on Gallifrey, and I don't really think what goes on with Mk I is reconcilable with this series.
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Post by Digi on Mar 4, 2018 22:19:53 GMT
One of the things I have trouble wrapping my brain around is if this is a war burning through all time and space, why don't we see the other Doctors having to deal with the conflict? When Romana says the Doctor refuses to help, is she just talking about the 8th Doctor? My fanjodrell for that is that Time Lords (or perhaps all or frequent time travellers?) are simply immune, that their own personal timelines are somehow insulated against the cataclysmic changes to the universe wrought by a temporal war. Otherwise, every time traveller has necessarily been either a combatant or a bystander in the war, for their entire lives.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 4, 2018 22:23:16 GMT
It's probably best if we just pretend that show didn't happen... Aaawww Does that mean this show would be my entertainment guilty pleasure? Seriously though, I actually quite like it, but that might have something to do with the fact that I was very much the target audience when I first saw it (I would have been about 12). It's basically a Classic Who budget in the modern era It's very tacky, but it's also a bit of fun Incidentally, I've always assumed it was K9 Mk IV from having watched it so many times, but thinking logically it could only be Mk II. Given when happens in Regeneration (the first episode of the K9 TV series), it would make sense that he had spent a little bit of time on Gallifrey, and I don't really think what goes on with Mk I is reconcilable with this series. Actually speaking of that series, whatever happened to the K-9 film that was announced a few years ago? Wasn't that meant to be released last year?
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 4, 2018 22:28:02 GMT
Aaawww Does that mean this show would be my entertainment guilty pleasure? Seriously though, I actually quite like it, but that might have something to do with the fact that I was very much the target audience when I first saw it (I would have been about 12). It's basically a Classic Who budget in the modern era It's very tacky, but it's also a bit of fun Incidentally, I've always assumed it was K9 Mk IV from having watched it so many times, but thinking logically it could only be Mk II. Given when happens in Regeneration (the first episode of the K9 TV series), it would make sense that he had spent a little bit of time on Gallifrey, and I don't really think what goes on with Mk I is reconcilable with this series. Actually speaking of that series, whatever happened to the K-9 film that was announced a few years ago? Wasn't that meant to be released last year? Yeah, announced October 2015 for release in 2017, K9: Timequake does appear to have disappeared... (I try finding info on it every six months or so, but there is no information to find in the first place ). I think we should just let the idea of that ever happening lay to rest.
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Post by IndieMacUser on Mar 5, 2018 11:53:31 GMT
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Post by xlozdob on Mar 5, 2018 13:48:59 GMT
Actually speaking of that series, whatever happened to the K-9 film that was announced a few years ago? Wasn't that meant to be released last year? Yeah, announced October 2015 for release in 2017, K9: Timequake does appear to have disappeared... (I try finding info on it every six months or so, but there is no information to find in the first place ). I think we should just let the idea of that ever happening lay to rest. It was revealed in December that Jamie Shannon would be directing it and it's now going to be released in 2018/19. Leeson is still returning as the voice of K9, and they updated the official K9 Facebook page with the new design at the beginning of the year. So that's that, not much, but still in development.
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 5, 2018 13:51:39 GMT
Yeah, announced October 2015 for release in 2017, K9: Timequake does appear to have disappeared... (I try finding info on it every six months or so, but there is no information to find in the first place ). I think we should just let the idea of that ever happening lay to rest. It was revealed in December that Jamie Shannon would be directing it and it's now going to be released in 2018/19. Leeson is still returning as the voice of K9, and they updated the official K9 Facebook page with the new design at the beginning of the year. So that's that, not much, but still in development. Huh. Well, there you go For nearly two and a half years development though, there's less known about this than the Big Finish Comic Adaptations
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