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Post by randomjc on Nov 17, 2015 18:39:58 GMT
I know that Gotham is the DC show not talked about, but did everyone enjoy the guest actress they had on tonight? {Spoiler} Did it seem that Michelle Gomez was playing this character the same way she plays Missy? I think they were very similar. Although I would say that her Gotham role was a little less playful and a little more sinister. Loved her. Afraid I gave up on this show I find it strange that most the word of mouth I've heard on Gotham is Middling to bad, yet looking online I see reviews for it are good. I find this...odd.
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Post by david on Nov 17, 2015 18:53:43 GMT
Gotham is the oddest of all the DC shows. It can have some quiet subtle moments and follow it with the broadest of OTT nonsense. I think a lot of people don't watch it because - and this is the reason I see most - it's a Batman show without Batman. Prequelitis. If they want to do something bold that says "THIS is the story, not what happens in 20 years" they should do something bold. Kill off Bruce Wayne. Have Gordon or Alfred become the Bat (Gordon has been in the comics for a while). Something big and brash like that is the only way they're going to set their own agenda and not be viewed - like Smallville - as an irellevant prequel that uses all the rogues far too soon.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 17, 2015 20:11:19 GMT
That would be interesting. I guess if I were doing Gotham, I wouldn't have Bruce Wayne in it, except perhaps having his parents murder being the first thing we experience through Gordon's eyes.
I also have a love/hate relationship with batman, but to be perfectly honest, Gotham doesn't excite me enough to watch.
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Post by elkawho on Nov 18, 2015 1:39:05 GMT
To be honest, I loved it last year but not as much this year. I like Gordon, but my favorite characters are Penguin and Cat, and they're not being used as much this year. Although the promise of The Riddler is being played out well. And it's gotten even bloodier and more sickening this year. I keep asking myself why would anyone live in that city? And why for God's sake would anyone be a police officer?
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Post by kurumais on Nov 18, 2015 2:08:56 GMT
i can not believe they actually did gorilla city. this weeks flash was a nice connecting episode with many nice little moments. john wesley shipp looks made out of granite. i think the writers need to work harder on his character he still feels more plot than character.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 18, 2015 2:13:21 GMT
I'm really enjoying this season of Batman. I wasn't a huge fan of Fish Mooney last season (though she had their moments), but I really like the id who plays Bruce Wayne, as well as Alfred, Gordon, and the future villains. It was also awesome seeing Missy in an entirely different context. It almost seemed like a sane version of her Master.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 18, 2015 14:08:10 GMT
i can not believe they actually did gorilla city. this weeks flash was a nice connecting episode with many nice little moments. john wesley shipp looks made out of granite. i think the writers need to work harder on his character he still feels more plot than character. That's been kind of how I've seen John Wesley Shipp this season. Last season he had great emotional beats, and was more character moments for Barry. And frankly, if he had just said to Barry in episode 1 "Look, I've been in prison, I kind of want to do a road trip, spread my wings. I love you son, I believe in you, but I need to go out into the world, at least for a little while." It would have been so much better. Cause that's pretty much what he told Barry this episode.
Also, Grodd!
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Post by kurumais on Nov 19, 2015 1:43:40 GMT
how long is the longest scene on arrow? 2 minutes max? also getting a buffy vibe with the thea storyline . not that thea is lik buffy just her story feels like something they would do on buffy. bad situation with bad choices.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 14:14:13 GMT
So, am I the only one who felt like a new camera was used for the fights? It felt different at times.
I do see some things that remind me of buffy, like the guy at the bar and Thea's reaction. But I don't think she's making bad choices, maybe not the best, but not bad. If she was making bad choices she would have agreed to Malcom's original plan.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 18:36:51 GMT
So, am I the only one who felt like a new camera was used for the fights? It felt different at times. I do see some things that remind me of buffy, like the guy at the bar and Thea's reaction. But I don't think she's making bad choices, maybe not the best, but not bad. If she was making bad choices she would have agreed to Malcom's original plan. I think the only bad choice she made was asking Malcolm for help. Beating up that guy wasn't really a choice, since she can't control her bloodlust. Also, if she thinks she has a solution, shouldn't she call Sarah?
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 18:51:06 GMT
So, am I the only one who felt like a new camera was used for the fights? It felt different at times. I do see some things that remind me of buffy, like the guy at the bar and Thea's reaction. But I don't think she's making bad choices, maybe not the best, but not bad. If she was making bad choices she would have agreed to Malcom's original plan. I think the only bad choice she made was asking Malcolm for help. Beating up that guy wasn't really a choice, since she can't control her bloodlust. Also, if she thinks she has a solution, shouldn't she call Sarah? Shhh, Sarah is going to be on that other show. And asking Malcolm for help is kind of a neutral idea in my mind. yes he's a bad guy, and a tool, but he does have clear loyalties to Thea, and Oliver. Don't have to trust him, but he has uses. And more seriously, I wouldn't call Sarah until I know the solution. No point in building up hopes just yet.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 19:37:18 GMT
I think the only bad choice she made was asking Malcolm for help. Beating up that guy wasn't really a choice, since she can't control her bloodlust. Also, if she thinks she has a solution, shouldn't she call Sarah? Shhh, Sarah is going to be on that other show. And asking Malcolm for help is kind of a neutral idea in my mind. yes he's a bad guy, and a tool, but he does have clear loyalties to Thea, and Oliver. Don't have to trust him, but he has uses. And more seriously, I wouldn't call Sarah until I know the solution. No point in building up hopes just yet. Last time Malcolm "helped" Thea, he had her murder people. Oliver just decided to fight Damien in the light, but by working with Malcolm, Thea is still operating in the dark.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 19:51:10 GMT
Shhh, Sarah is going to be on that other show. And asking Malcolm for help is kind of a neutral idea in my mind. yes he's a bad guy, and a tool, but he does have clear loyalties to Thea, and Oliver. Don't have to trust him, but he has uses. And more seriously, I wouldn't call Sarah until I know the solution. No point in building up hopes just yet. Last time Malcolm "helped" Thea, he had her murder people. Oliver just decided to fight Damien in the light, but by working with Malcolm, Thea is still operating in the dark. And to be fair, that did help her. Whether we like it or not, it helped. If Thea takes charge, I'm willing to bet Malcolm will do what she says, much the same way he did as Oliver said in the latter half of last season.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 20:05:39 GMT
Last time Malcolm "helped" Thea, he had her murder people. Oliver just decided to fight Damien in the light, but by working with Malcolm, Thea is still operating in the dark. And to be fair, that did help her. Whether we like it or not, it helped. If Thea takes charge, I'm willing to bet Malcolm will do what she says, much the same way he did as Oliver said in the latter half of last season. I suspect that Malcolm will do whatever he feels is best for Thea. If he thinks that using Damien has a reasonable amount of success then he will try to do so. Otherwise, he will continue to try to get Thea to kill people.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 20:22:14 GMT
And to be fair, that did help her. Whether we like it or not, it helped. If Thea takes charge, I'm willing to bet Malcolm will do what she says, much the same way he did as Oliver said in the latter half of last season. I suspect that Malcolm will do whatever he feels is best for Thea. If he thinks that using Damien has a reasonable amount of success then he will try to do so. Otherwise, he will continue to try to get Thea to kill people. That, I don't disagree with. As far as bad ideas, it's no where near as bad as getting in bed with jerk/DJ/Assassin like last season. And I still have doubts about campaign manager, if just because we keep seeing him being wrong, and Oli being right.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 20:24:49 GMT
I suspect that Malcolm will do whatever he feels is best for Thea. If he thinks that using Damien has a reasonable amount of success then he will try to do so. Otherwise, he will continue to try to get Thea to kill people. That, I don't disagree with. As far as bad ideas, it's no where near as bad as getting in bed with jerk/DJ/Assassin like last season. And I still have doubts about campaign manager, if just because we keep seeing him being wrong, and Oli being right.
At least he admits he's wrong. He's just worried more about the politics, while Oliver is worried more about the issues.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 20:28:08 GMT
That, I don't disagree with. As far as bad ideas, it's no where near as bad as getting in bed with jerk/DJ/Assassin like last season. And I still have doubts about campaign manager, if just because we keep seeing him being wrong, and Oli being right.
At least he admits he's wrong. He's just worried more about the politics, while Oliver is worried more about the issues. Doesn't mean I trust him. But he does admit it, and he is most likely a red herring, but I don't trust him. And it kind of makes me happy that they're actually showing Oli is the left wing hippy he really is.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 20:36:06 GMT
At least he admits he's wrong. He's just worried more about the politics, while Oliver is worried more about the issues. Doesn't mean I trust him. But he does admit it, and he is most likely a red herring, but I don't trust him. And it kind of makes me happy that they're actually showing Oli is the left wing hippy he really is. I don't think he's up to anything nefarious. I think he's just there so that Oliver looks better by ignoring him and doing the right thing, and to show that Thea wants a normal life.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 20:40:20 GMT
Doesn't mean I trust him. But he does admit it, and he is most likely a red herring, but I don't trust him. And it kind of makes me happy that they're actually showing Oli is the left wing hippy he really is. I don't think he's up to anything nefarious. I think he's just there so that Oliver looks better by ignoring him and doing the right thing, and to show that Thea wants a normal life. Aww, the Strawman, next we'll get the very special episode written by Aaron Sorkin. but yeah, he's probably not evil. Just a politician. I wish Walter would come back.
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Post by kurumais on Dec 2, 2015 1:41:19 GMT
how many tv shows do you watch that make you smile? the flash makes me smile.
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