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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 8:14:54 GMT
It was in David Banks' cyber book and tapes. However I'm sure it's all been superceded by the new series
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Post by jasonward on Oct 27, 2015 12:32:07 GMT
It was in David Banks' cyber book and tapes. However I'm sure it's all been superceded by the new series Don't see why, indeed the new series introduced yet another cyberman from an alternative universe. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 14:52:26 GMT
It was in David Banks' cyber book and tapes. However I'm sure it's all been superceded by the new series Don't see why, indeed the new series introduced yet another cyberman from an alternative universe. Exactly. Therefore what's in the old book is now out of date |
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Post by jasonward on Oct 27, 2015 15:22:24 GMT
Out of date just means not up to date, I've never seen or heard the stories you refer to, but just because there is another new faction doesn't render the idea or stories irrelevant.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 28, 2015 19:39:13 GMT
toaau is thinking of David Banks's theories in "Cybermen", which also appear as the in-universe theories of a historian in "Killing Ground" by Steve Lyons.
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The people of Mondas replace organs with artificial ones as the planet drifts away from the sun and the climate becomes more difficult. The Faction are a group of Mondasians who think that they should replace *everything*, immediately, not just as and when events dictate. They leave Mondas for Planet 14 as it drifts past.
That makes the Mondasians the Cybermen from "The Tenth Planet", and the Faction's descendents the Troughton-era Cybermen.
Further Cybermen leave Planet 14 and set off wandering the universe. They are all killed by the Glittergun, except for a few leftovers who appear in "Revenge of the Cybermen" much later. They are the Cyber-Nomads.
"Earthshock" / "Attack of the Cybermen" Cybermen are known as "Neomorphs", having sprung from the reopened Tombs on Telos; possibly reopened by further CyberNomads.
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Post by mrfuggleboppins on Oct 29, 2015 1:18:24 GMT
toaau is thinking of David Banks's theories in "Cybermen", which also appear as the in-universe theories of a historian in "Killing Ground" by Steve Lyons. Basically - The people of Mondas replace organs with artificial ones as the planet drifts away from the sun and the climate becomes more difficult. The Faction are a group of Mondasians who think that they should replace *everything*, immediately, not just as and when events dictate. They leave Mondas for Planet 14 as it drifts past. That makes the Mondasians the Cybermen from "The Tenth Planet", and the Faction's descendents the Troughton-era Cybermen. Further Cybermen leave Planet 14 and set off wandering the universe. They are all killed by the Glittergun, except for a few leftovers who appear in "Revenge of the Cybermen" much later. They are the Cyber-Nomads. "Earthshock" / "Attack of the Cybermen" Cybermen are known as "Neomorphs", having sprung from the reopened Tombs on Telos; possibly reopened by further CyberNomads. Definitely easy to reconcile with The World Shapers. No issue at all.  Banks also covers some of his Cybermen theories in his mediocre and overlong New Adventure Iceberg that barely features the Doctor at all... |
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Post by ausir on Oct 29, 2015 22:08:41 GMT
Moffat-era Cybermen are likely Mondas Cybermen who encountered their parallel universe counterparts and upgraded themselves with bits of their tech.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 30, 2015 3:10:03 GMT
The Cyberiad could be an outgrowth of Planet 14 Cybermen (Cyber-Faction? Cyber-Nomad?)
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 30, 2015 7:47:29 GMT
toaau is thinking of David Banks's theories in "Cybermen", which also appear as the in-universe theories of a historian in "Killing Ground" by Steve Lyons. Basically - The people of Mondas replace organs with artificial ones as the planet drifts away from the sun and the climate becomes more difficult. The Faction are a group of Mondasians who think that they should replace *everything*, immediately, not just as and when events dictate. They leave Mondas for Planet 14 as it drifts past. That makes the Mondasians the Cybermen from "The Tenth Planet", and the Faction's descendents the Troughton-era Cybermen. Further Cybermen leave Planet 14 and set off wandering the universe. They are all killed by the Glittergun, except for a few leftovers who appear in "Revenge of the Cybermen" much later. They are the Cyber-Nomads. "Earthshock" / "Attack of the Cybermen" Cybermen are known as "Neomorphs", having sprung from the reopened Tombs on Telos; possibly reopened by further CyberNomads. Definitely easy to reconcile with The World Shapers. No issue at all. Banks also covers some of his Cybermen theories in his mediocre and overlong New Adventure Iceberg that barely features the Doctor at all... |
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