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Post by elkawho on Oct 27, 2015 12:08:39 GMT
From the Nick Briggs Official site on Facebook:
"Just wanted to say that at the point the 'leak' about the Tenth Doctor and Donna adventures occurred, publicly stating this information might have scuppered the whole project. It was a seriously 'dangerous' thing to do in this context. The person who did it is mistaken in their belief that they offered us the chance to prevent them from publishing. The emails I received (my email address had clearly been procured via a third party, as I had never shared my email address with this person -- as far as I'm aware) stated rather bluntly that they were going to publish and simply invited me to comment. When I indicated that I didn't know for certain that it was going to happen (which was true at that point -- I actually said, 'you know more than I do'), the request for a quote to accompany the publishing of the story was simply repeated. If they had offered to hold-off publishing until we could confirm, I would have taken that option. But I was not given that option and felt that the wisest course of action was not to comment further. I didn't say I was declining to comment, I merely declined to comment, worrying that if I had said anything else it might have been quoted publicly against my wishes. I want to reassure anyone who's interested that we release news stories as soon as we possibly can. We don't withhold anything unnecessarily. The moment it's 100% certain a project is going ahead, we announce it. Before we announce it, it *isn't* certain. And announcing it before this time risks the project not happening at all."
Hmm. Any comments?
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Post by jasonward on Oct 27, 2015 12:29:51 GMT
I see no reason Nick would be lying, his message reads as if he frustrated more than anything else.
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Post by elkawho on Oct 27, 2015 12:34:31 GMT
Oh, I have no doubt that he's being honest and sincere, and feels relief in finally being able to comment on the leak. I'm glad he did. It would have been awful if the premature release of this information would have put an end to this project.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 27, 2015 13:25:32 GMT
It sounds like the leak site have jeopardised the fact they have any "Official Contacts" in a rather foolhardy manner.
EDIT
The leak site runner has replied to the post in the comments field, initals CKM
Regards
mark687
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Post by david on Oct 27, 2015 14:34:25 GMT
Wow, and there's Cameron telling everyone he asked BF if the wanted to nix it. Apologies to Katerborous who I'd disbelieved when he said it jeapordised the project.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 27, 2015 14:54:36 GMT
I don't think he has reason to lie. The fact that they were also able to keep the War Doctor announcement quiet as well
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Post by mark687 on Oct 27, 2015 14:55:45 GMT
There's clearly an implication that C shouldn't've been aware of it though, so perhaps N should've said No comment, Don't publish, then found out where C got the info from By N just saying no comment, C obviously felt he had licence to publish confirmation.
Regards
mark687
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Post by mrperson on Oct 27, 2015 15:11:16 GMT
A. I wish people could just exercise a little tiny bit of self-control and stop trying to leak things. Just leave it alone! If it's coming, it's coming. Get over your desire to get attention by breaking the news first.
B. But I'm also little confused as to why it would jeopardize the project. Big Finish already had the license. Would someone like Tennant really back out simply because someone other than BF announced it first, if he wanted to do it anyway? I'd hope that the participants in a given project base their decision to go forward or not on whether or not they want to do it; I'd hope that someone like Tennant would not say "nah, screw it" simply because someone announced it was 100% certain when he was only 80% certain.
I mean. It's annoying, I get it. But that annoying?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 27, 2015 15:12:38 GMT
I have no reason to think Nick is lying about anything although we do know in the past that BF has timed major announcements to coincide with the publication of Doctor Who Magazine, although that seemes to have slacked off in the recent past. So there is precedent for Big Finish holding information back, which means, at least from Blogator Who's perspective, there would be a good reason to break the story. I can't comment on the behind the scenes stuff or how Cameron acquired the info, or indeed how people behaved but the thing I keep coming back to, if you are a provider of news and you get your hands on a juicy scoop, the primary instinct would be to run with it. Breaking news is one of the reasons a news & information site exists.
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Post by Hieronymus on Oct 27, 2015 15:13:09 GMT
Whenever Big Finish has one of these major launches, it can feel a bit as though we fans are Ace and Big Finish is the Seventh Doctor. They seem to know far more than they're letting on and we don't find out until it's "too late".
But we have to remember that the Doctor (and Big Finish) are good and mean well, wanting the best for us, and we should be willing to trust. And finding out too early can ruin a good story; not knowing the outcome makes the tale more interesting.
I have yet to have an experience where finding out the spoilers ahead of time enriched my life.
My two cents.
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Post by agentten on Oct 27, 2015 15:20:48 GMT
I agree that there's far too much desire on the internet news sites to spoil things. Being the first out with a story, getting all the clicks, for some reason those things seem to become more important than allowing surprises to unfold. One can avoid spoilers as carefully as possible, but with certain bits of news there's just no way to avoid them. The Tenth Doctor leak was on every nerdy news site that I visit. Not just Doctor Who sites, but movie news sites picked it up and passed it around. I can understand why Briggs would be frustrated, especially if it was something that wasn't yet a done deal.
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Post by Polar Bear on Oct 27, 2015 15:22:04 GMT
] I have yet to have an experience where finding out the spoilers ahead of time enriched my life. My two cents. I'll see that and raise you two. (In other words, well said; I agree.)
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Post by jasonward on Oct 27, 2015 15:36:11 GMT
Part of the job of the media, if not actually it main job, is to expose those things that some would rather was kept secret, this way politicians, authorities, companies etc are held to account.
Sometimes, even often, politicians, authorities, companies etc have what they see as good reasons to keep secrets.
Striking the balance can be difficult. perhaps there is no real balance just a dynamic.
But for the most part breaking "news" like this is about increasing circulation/page views/ad impressions.
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Post by Digi on Oct 27, 2015 16:27:52 GMT
I'm a little confused as to how a leak would "jeopardize" the project. On several levels.
For one, David's tweet on Oct 25 said they had been sitting on the news for a year. How would a leak from barely a month ago jeopardize that?
Even putting that aside, if they had only started working on it on the day of the 'leak', how would that jeopardize it either? Who, exactly, at BBC/BF is sitting around with their finger on the red button in case someone deigns to talk about it? There would be no reason to cancel the project if news of it got out prematurely -- this will probably sell like crazy.
I like Nick Briggs, and I respect everything he's done for BF and Doctor Who. I have no reason to disbelieve him. But I don't understand.
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Post by jasonward on Oct 27, 2015 16:40:24 GMT
I must admit, I too can't quite understand why it would jeopardise something either, the only reason I can see it might would be if someone's ego was larger than it needed, but, really? I can't see anyone involved (that I know of) who has an engorged ego.
I can see that it might be a pain for some people, for instance if Tennant was contracted to promote some new play or film he was in (as main actors often are) but news leaks of the BF/Who deal and that drowns out any press coverage the new play/film would have got. But that's a pain, an annoyance, it would have to be really serious to actually stop Tennant working with BF again, something we all know he's been interested in, perhaps even eager to do.
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Post by Zagreus on Oct 27, 2015 17:02:02 GMT
Public reaction could affect various things, like how much actors ask for, or whether it affects the actors' other work schedule, as something that wasn't public now is, and may affect whether they're approached for various things. It can also affect BF; for instance, I know that when they announced The War Doctor audios, while there was certainly a lot of hype surrounding it, there was also a fair amount of "Yeah but what about Ten and Donna?" that, while not overshadowing, certainly detracted a bit from what should have been the sole focus of attention at the time.
Just various things.
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Post by jasonward on Oct 27, 2015 17:10:53 GMT
I see those reasons as tenuous at best, I'm not saying they are never factors, but in this context I can't imagine the impact was anything but minimal it's not like the actors are unknown in those roles, or that they are controversial roles or that actors (David in particular) thinks he can squeeze loads of money from BF, as to fans asking "Yeah but what about Ten and Donna?"... so what? I don't mean that flippantly, I can see why BF didn't enjoy it, but beyond that, so what?
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Post by jasonward on Oct 27, 2015 17:18:58 GMT
BTW, just wanted to say/clarify, what Iv'e said about "not getting it" don't mean I now thing Nick Briggs is in anyway trying to mislead, I'm saying "Im not getting this", I believe what Nick says, although I struggle to understand how it could be.
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Post by Shalott on Oct 27, 2015 17:41:15 GMT
The original Facebook post has been removed.
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Post by Shalott on Oct 27, 2015 17:53:36 GMT
Based on the brief conversations I've had with Nick Briggs at conventions, I get the feeling that he's a sensitive soul. My guess is that this is the first major information leak BF has had and it's rattled the core team rather badly. It's never easy when you discover someone has betrayed a confidence. Sadly, as BF continues to grow, this sort of thing will probably happen more and more often.
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