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Post by Whovitt on Dec 11, 2017 13:20:52 GMT
Okay, the mid-season finale is all over the place. Where the hell was Rick and what the hell was he doing? How the hell did everyone get into the positions that they were in. Whatwhatwhat? So much was skipped over that most of the plot felt far too contrived. Having said that, forgetting the fact that these things are ignored, what a finale! I was certainly in shock by the end, but I don't understand where the show plans on going from here? There are now so many separate plot lines/threads running at the moment that I just don't know what to expect to happen next, and while that excites me, it also leaves me feeling a little angry and feeling I should have some idea. I don't know, maybe I'm still reeling at the implications of this episode...
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Post by Digi on Dec 11, 2017 16:04:41 GMT
Not sure what was confusing about Rick? He was on his way back to Alexandria, after finding the Sanctuary emptied of the Saviors at the end of last week’s episode. Saviors were at Alexandria, having already left well ahead of Rick’s arrival at the Sanctuary.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 22:47:07 GMT
The term Jumped the Shark is the most apt I have seen to describe The Walking Dead now. Seriously, it's rubbish.For me, TWD now is badly written and horribly plotted. This was one of the worst mid-season finales and a million miles away in quality from Sophie coming out of the barn in season 2. Of course, there was one highlight... Carl Great stuff, and about time.
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Post by redsharkJason on Dec 12, 2017 4:32:52 GMT
The Empire Saviors Strikes Back!
S08E08: How It's Gotta Be:
I found this midseason finale to be very satisfying - loved it! For my purposes, this probably is the best episode of TWD Season 8A. Reliable character portrayals, lots going on, good tension and the surprise revelation (after giving up on thinking there would be one) came down to the last minute! Last night, the TV version of TWD took a needed sharp turn from the comics.
The Carl factor:
I appreciated the irony that the major character (which turned out to be Carl) did not expectantly die within this episode as was commonly assumed by a populous of media and fans. The cause of Carl's impending death occurred 2 episodes prior and his end will presumably happen in the Season 8B opener. Considering what Carl has already been through (harshly shot on 2 different occasions and recently almost had his arm chopped off), I didn't think he would be the one to go!
Carl went from being that sometimes whinny annoying kid to being someone that could be taken seriously. Chandler Riggs's acting and the material that he was given to perform within this story was at times poignant. Carl [to Negan]: "Hey, was this the plan? Was it supposed to be this way? Is this who you wanted to be?" made me feel downright melancholy for Negan! Hopefully the 18 year old Chandler will surface again in another successful entertainment production - all the best to him.
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Post by Timelord007 on Dec 12, 2017 9:08:17 GMT
The term Jumped the Shark is the most apt I have seen to describe The Walking Dead now. Seriously, it's rubbish.For me, TWD now is badly written and horribly plotted. This was one of the worst mid-season finales and a million miles away in quality from Sophie coming out of the barn in season 2. Of course, there was one highlight... Carl Great stuff, and about time. Completely agree, i used to love this show but the last two seasons have dipped in quality, i get it was night time but the episode was to dark & badly lite & Ricks absence for most of the story was baffling, Darryl, Carol did nothing & only Maggie & Carl stood out from the regular cast, i say bring back Frank Darabont.
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Post by redsharkJason on Mar 8, 2018 17:36:33 GMT
The Lost and the Plunders:
A fun episode where multiple storyline events are segmented into focuses of 6 individual character titles - "Michonne, Negan, Enid, Simon, Jadis and Rick".
Simon disobeying Negan's orders when decimating the Scavengers (everyone except Jadis), and the ending walkie-talkie exchange between Rick and Negan concerning Carl dying was nicely played. Simon's nonchalant asking Jadis about the "helipad in the back" and "solar panels" seemingly being located within her trash heap headquarters heightens the mystery regarding Rick previously seeing the unidentified flying helicopter.
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Post by Timelord007 on Mar 9, 2018 7:55:26 GMT
A excellent return to form, more episodes of this quality please.
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Post by Timelord007 on Mar 13, 2018 9:18:52 GMT
Another tense, dramatic episode, the second half of season 8 is a significant improvement & return to form.
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Post by Timelord007 on Apr 3, 2018 8:04:20 GMT
Another great episode, Rick is slowly becoming a very dark untrustworthy character.
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Post by redsharkJason on Apr 5, 2018 16:28:39 GMT
Another great episode, Rick is slowly becoming a very dark untrustworthy character. Whether it's good or not, I've wholeheartedly enjoyed tuning into TWD season 8. Simply...this show is fun to watch! There is always a lot going on with the rotating story segments for the different factions of characters. Instead of being a magnanimous role model, Rick has shown us that he's no Mother Teresa. The show's scripted design of his character. Rick was indeed underhanded *continuing* to follow through on his lie with those Savior refugees especially when their actions of trusting him, setting him free and actively assisting him to keep alive, still led to Rick and Morgan ambushing them! Rick acted like a common thug and Morgan was already a lost cause.
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Post by Timelord007 on Apr 6, 2018 7:11:12 GMT
Another great episode, Rick is slowly becoming a very dark untrustworthy character. Whether it's good or not, I've wholeheartedly enjoyed tuning into TWD season 8. Simply...this show is fun to watch! There is always a lot going on with the rotating story segments for the different factions of characters. Instead of being a magnanimous role model, Rick has shown us that he's no Mother Teresa. The show's scripted design of his character. Rick was indeed underhanded *continuing* to follow through on his lie with those Savior refugees especially when their actions of trusting him, setting him free and actively assisting him to keep alive, still led to Rick and Morgan ambushing them! Rick acted like a common thug and Morgan was already a lost cause. What i find makes it worse is that he's going against his late sons wishes.
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Post by Timelord007 on Apr 10, 2018 7:41:38 GMT
This season has been a solid return to form, Negan is back to his darker gritter portrayal & shows why you don't ever cross Negan.
Eugene gotta go though i hate this character sold out his friends, utter scumbag, stick him in the grinder.
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Post by redsharkJason on Apr 15, 2018 5:32:39 GMT
Season 8 Finale Airing Tomorrow! (And the North America premier of FTWD: Season 4) - Will the "All Out War" story arc be concluded?
- Will this be the last episode with Lauren Cohan? (She's apparently not under contract for the next season due to not yet receiving her sought after pay increase.)
- How will Morgan's crossover to Fear the Walking Dead be explained?
Based on the events from last week's episode it would seem that Negan has the upper hand in his reinvigorated focus to once and for all wipe out Rick's group. But as it sometimes does in life, things don't necessarily pan out according to plan - so we shall see! The past strategy of intended subjugation ("people are resources") against Rick's group has now gone out the window as far as Negan is concerned. Hopefully for next season, we'll start getting a good look at the mysterious woman (Georgie) previously bearing gifts for the Hilltop and the probably connected helicopter people that seem to have some immeasurable provisions at their disposal. Their ultimate intentions will most assuredly be eventually problematic for Rick and his comrades...
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Post by Whovitt on Apr 16, 2018 3:41:45 GMT
I have to say that the finale was almost a little underwhelming. I was expecting something much bigger and much more impactful and instead we got, well, what we got. There was basically no threat once the first shots were fired, and the set up for the future of the show is a little bit... well, yes. I don't know. I'm glad that they wrapped up the storylines, but I don't really see where the show has to go from here. EDIT: Looking back on my post for the mid-season finale, I said similar things about the show's future. Maybe it's going to do something really good, but I somehow doubt it
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Post by redsharkJason on Apr 16, 2018 5:48:29 GMT
I have to say that the finale was almost a little underwhelming. I was expecting something much bigger and much more impactful and instead we got, well, what we got. There was basically no threat once the first shots were fired, and the set up for the future of the show is a little bit... well, yes. I don't know. I'm glad that they wrapped up the storylines, but I don't really see where the show has to go from here. EDIT: Looking back on my post for the mid-season finale, I said similar things about the show's future. Maybe it's going to do something really good, but I somehow doubt it spoiler free -I was also sadly underwhelmed with the way the "All Out War" story arc ended. And yes, the final clash between the opposing groups was inadequately executed and lacked intensity. I didn't hate this finale episode, but it could have been better. I do like the idea of the 3 new enemies that Rick has brought on himself. (1 of them, I doubt will go along with it in the end.) On the whole, I did enjoy viewing this season's TWD. The premier of FTWD: Season 4 properly explains Morgan's crossover - with some guest stars.
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Post by Whovitt on Apr 16, 2018 5:57:59 GMT
I have to say that the finale was almost a little underwhelming. I was expecting something much bigger and much more impactful and instead we got, well, what we got. There was basically no threat once the first shots were fired, and the set up for the future of the show is a little bit... well, yes. I don't know. I'm glad that they wrapped up the storylines, but I don't really see where the show has to go from here. EDIT: Looking back on my post for the mid-season finale, I said similar things about the show's future. Maybe it's going to do something really good, but I somehow doubt it spoiler free -I was also sadly underwhelmed with the way the "All Out War" story arc ended. And yes, the final clash between the opposing groups was inadequately executed and lacked intensity. I didn't hate this finale episode, but it could have been better. I do like the idea of the 3 new enemies that Rick has brought on himself. (1 of them, I doubt will go along with it in the end.) On the whole, I did enjoy viewing this season's TWD. The premier of FTWD: Season 4 properly explains Morgan's crossover - with some guest stars. I've yet to watch FTWD. I suppose I'll have to find the time for that somewhere
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Post by Timelord007 on Apr 17, 2018 7:29:10 GMT
A underwhelming season 8 finale, very disappointed, again the actual battle was over rathet quick, Ricks U turn over Negan fate & then Maggie, Darryl & Jesus devious scheming to overthrow Rick wtf?
I thought the show was getting back on track but this disappointing finale derailed all the previous episodes good work. .
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Post by channing on Apr 17, 2018 19:48:46 GMT
Well, that was two seasons worth of life I will never get back.
What a disappointing finale. All that build up and I was left feeling very underwhelmed. This show really needs an end game while there are still enough viewers left to care.
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Post by redsharkJason on Apr 18, 2018 2:35:25 GMT
I've yet to watch FTWD. I suppose I'll have to find the time for that somewhere The second and third seasons of FTWD do incrementally improve along the way. The timeline of the first season of FTWD is a prequel to TWD. The preliminary media/public perception was that it would explain the reason WHY the epidemic of the walkers occurred...however it did not even attempt to do that. I found the first season of FTWD to be rather disappointing. For the fourth season, the FTWD new management is purportedly attempting to bolster the show's character base (so far weaker presences than TWD ones) by injecting 3 new main characters that includes Morgan.
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Post by redsharkJason on Apr 18, 2018 2:45:51 GMT
A underwhelming season 8 finale, very disappointed, again the actual battle was over rather quick, Ricks U turn over Negan fate & then Maggie, Darryl & Jesus devious scheming to overthrow Rick wtf?
I thought the show was getting back on track but this disappointing finale derailed all the previous episodes good work. Jilted ex-lovers and ex-friends sometimes prove to be the nastiest of adversaries. We can understand Maggie's motivation against Rick for deciding to spare Negan's life. Daryl is still carrying guilt about being the one that escalated Glenn's death. So his motivation will provide dramatic impact. Jesus is loyal to Maggie and the Hilltop, but his moral nature is not of a murderer or someone bloodthirsty for revenge. Jesus in due course will try to hinder Maggie's plans. I wasn't enamored with the silly quick fix final battle of the 2 groups either; however, I am glad about the twist with keeping the once imposing Negan alive! The killing had to stop somewhere and right at the last moment...Carl's vision was fulfilled. Sometime down the road, Negan will probably be used as a plot device of being the lesser evil by helping Rick thwart off an even more horrible group of scoundrels. I don't think we'll be seeing "All Out Piece" just yet...
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