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Post by anothermanicmondas on Aug 19, 2018 11:00:20 GMT
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Po the Human's in line to be the next Han (but only after getting slapped and demoted by Leia for doing what they do in Every Star Wars space battle that's gone before, when Leia becomes injured, he's come with a plan B of Every Star Wars sabotage the ship/base from the inside as "comically" as possible by Finn, but wait Leia's been replaced by Purple Haired Lady we've never seen who vetoes Po's cause she's got a better one but she's not telling, Po's plan presses ahead (so anyone involved is technically a traitor) Leia recovers, Force slams Po unconscious, evacuates the ship, so Purple Hair can carry out her plan, (after remarking to Leia that Po "has done and will do the Resistance Proud)". The Secret plan a Suicide crash into the Enemy ship, as per Every Star Wars space battle.
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trimming to focus on the bits I'm responding to Holdo's secret plan was to abandon the ship and have the rebels slip off and sneak away while the bad guys were focussing on the ship. Poe, on the other hand, was determined to keep the ship despite that it didn't have enough power to defeat the enemy's main forces and just put virtually all the rebel forces in one place making them more vulnerable. Poe's interference led to the plans being leaked putting the evacuated forces in jeopardy resulting in the need for more desperate measures Rey was told there was nothing interesting about HER PARENTS - she's the one who matters, they don't I will say that I enjoyed the film though I felt that it and The Force Awakens had too much of the big picture events taking place off screen with little clarity about the overall state of the galaxy. Part of the controversy is as with Skyfall it went against the normal tropes of the franchise. However, while Skyfall's statement was the Bond franchise is old and tiored and needs to be destroyed and stripped down to the core and rebuilt, The Last Jedi's statements were Rebellions are not about blowing up random things but about whispering campaigns and building support among the population (the scene with the children was the rebellion done right). and criminals can not be trusted many will betray for money...
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Post by mark687 on Aug 19, 2018 11:19:01 GMT
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Po the Human's in line to be the next Han (but only after getting slapped and demoted by Leia for doing what they do in Every Star Wars space battle that's gone before, when Leia becomes injured, he's come with a plan B of Every Star Wars sabotage the ship/base from the inside as "comically" as possible by Finn, but wait Leia's been replaced by Purple Haired Lady we've never seen who vetoes Po's cause she's got a better one but she's not telling, Po's plan presses ahead (so anyone involved is technically a traitor) Leia recovers, Force slams Po unconscious, evacuates the ship, so Purple Hair can carry out her plan, (after remarking to Leia that Po "has done and will do the Resistance Proud)". The Secret plan a Suicide crash into the Enemy ship, as per Every Star Wars space battle.
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trimming to focus on the bits I'm responding to Holdo's secret plan was to abandon the ship and have the rebels slip off and sneak away while the bad guys were focussing on the ship. Poe, on the other hand, was determined to keep the ship despite that it didn't have enough power to defeat the enemy's main forces and just put virtually all the rebel forces in one place making them more vulnerable. Poe's interference led to the plans being leaked putting the evacuated forces in jeopardy resulting in the need for more desperate measures Rey was told there was nothing interesting about HER PARENTS - she's the one who matters, they don't I will say that I enjoyed the film though I felt that it and The Force Awakens had too much of the big picture events taking place off screen with little clarity about the overall state of the galaxy. Part of the controversy is as with Skyfall it went against the normal tropes of the franchise. However, while Skyfall's statement was the Bond franchise is old and tiored and needs to be destroyed and stripped down to the core and rebuilt, The Last Jedi's statements were Rebellions are not about blowing up random things but about whispering campaigns and building support among the population (the scene with the children was the rebellion done right). and criminals can not be trusted many will betray for money... Interesting Skyfall you could say was an attempt to keep in the style of the books for the anniversary (and personally I think it worked.) Last Jedi was almost Johnson's personnel fan fic and sorry I find Holdo's plan and her attitude towards it and everyone maddening.
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Post by muckypup on Aug 19, 2018 11:47:39 GMT
Can I ask why......i think it’s a mess, forgetting the liberties he takes with characters n mythology’s, the direction flip flops from one dead end thread to another, before giving us a half decent final 30 mins. true there are some great set pieces, but then is shoots it’s self in the foot but doing stupid pointless stuff like the space walk, coins in bb8 & DJ (probally the most annoying thing since jar jar) Personally after watching it 4 times now, it was full of good intentions but spoilt by a director who thought he knew best and tried too hard to make his mark. Its probally a better film than TPM OR AOTC..... but no where near as fun or interesting. just wonder why or what there was to love so much? I have seen it about ten times now with nephews with nieces with brothers sisters in laws and not one of them has disliked it even my mother enjoyed it very much and she is 75 she was with me at the beginning when Star Wars first came out she watched her way through every film every vhs and every dvd and she loved Luke’s and Leias finale especially since she knew it was Leias swan song so to speak.. The film could have appeased avid fans who have gobbled up the books and worked out chronologies etc but I think it found an audience outside of fandom same with `Doctor who it will find a new audience outside of us fans and perhaps given some of the rants I have read ....perhaps that’s a good thing. and alienated fandom so them so they never went to see solo...putting the future plans into turmoil…..you watch much the same will happen to doctor who over the next few years...…. but glad you enjoyed it......have you watched the delete scenes on the DVD for a true insight in the mind of a misguided director.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 19, 2018 11:52:18 GMT
I have seen it about ten times now with nephews with nieces with brothers sisters in laws and not one of them has disliked it even my mother enjoyed it very much and she is 75 she was with me at the beginning when Star Wars first came out she watched her way through every film every vhs and every dvd and she loved Luke’s and Leias finale especially since she knew it was Leias swan song so to speak.. The film could have appeased avid fans who have gobbled up the books and worked out chronologies etc but I think it found an audience outside of fandom same with `Doctor who it will find a new audience outside of us fans and perhaps given some of the rants I have read ....perhaps that’s a good thing. and alienated fandom so them so they never went to see solo...putting the future plans into turmoil…..you watch much the same will happen to doctor who over the next few years...…. but glad you enjoyed it......have you watched the delete scenes on the DVD for a true insight in the mind of a misguided director. May Happen
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 12:03:18 GMT
I have seen it about ten times now with nephews with nieces with brothers sisters in laws and not one of them has disliked it even my mother enjoyed it very much and she is 75 she was with me at the beginning when Star Wars first came out she watched her way through every film every vhs and every dvd and she loved Luke’s and Leias finale especially since she knew it was Leias swan song so to speak.. The film could have appeased avid fans who have gobbled up the books and worked out chronologies etc but I think it found an audience outside of fandom same with `Doctor who it will find a new audience outside of us fans and perhaps given some of the rants I have read ....perhaps that’s a good thing. and alienated fandom so them so they never went to see solo...putting the future plans into turmoil…..you watch much the same will happen to doctor who over the next few years...…. but glad you enjoyed it......have you watched the delete scenes on the DVD for a true insight in the mind of a misguided director. You are assuming am all for the new direction Doctor Who has taken? Solo will make its money on Dvd Sales etc. But perhaps the “obscenity” that is the movie industry needs,kicked occasionally,the massive budgets and the massive profits such as Avengers Infinity-now there was a crap movie-i mean it is takings in billions now while a large part of the world starves or is without water,perhaps it is high time we evaluate how much enetertainment actually rules our minds and pockets and the movie industry should evaluate that movies can be made at a fraction of the costs. The director is misguided?because Fandom says he is misguided because he did not give you the type of movie that Fandom wanted-I am A Fan he delivered a movie that i enjoyed-A LOT.Fandom is wide and varied and i get from previous posts that those fans are “scared” to voice a positive reaction.I never based any reaction to a product on others opinions i based it on my own.That is like in school days were you didn’t say you liked a bit of pop music because everyone liked something else,i like what i like. We must be free to disagree with the popular choice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 13:12:45 GMT
I have seen it about ten times now with nephews with nieces with brothers sisters in laws and not one of them has disliked it even my mother enjoyed it very much and she is 75 she was with me at the beginning when Star Wars first came out she watched her way through every film every vhs and every dvd and she loved Luke’s and Leias finale especially since she knew it was Leias swan song so to speak.. The film could have appeased avid fans who have gobbled up the books and worked out chronologies etc but I think it found an audience outside of fandom same with `Doctor who it will find a new audience outside of us fans and perhaps given some of the rants I have read ....perhaps that’s a good thing. and alienated fandom so them so they never went to see solo...putting the future plans into turmoil…..you watch much the same will happen to doctor who over the next few years...…. but glad you enjoyed it......have you watched the delete scenes on the DVD for a true insight in the mind of a misguided director. No, some of the fandom are alienated. I mean star wars is a massive franchise so obviously a portion of the fan base is larger than doctor who per say but then i guess thats my point. Star war films will always be around and a load of people will like them. Fans old and new, cos new fans, whilst they might not be fighting trolls on twitter, are very much a thing. Theyll be growing up on the force awakens and loving them. The reason Solo failed is because it was just a nostalgia fest nobody wanted that was right after infinity war and deadpool. It never stood a chance in may to start with but tbh really, why would kids wanna watch a film about people they barely know? They wanna know about Fin and Po and Rey. That’s proppably why they've halted plans for the star wars storys as if they can’t apeal to star wars Die hards then whats the point in nostalgia, they may as well continue with what they want to do and ignore them, and so they should tbh. If some fans don’t like the direction its taking thats on them. Then again won’t suprise me if ep 9 is just jj abrams course correcting making snoke plaugis and reys parents obi wan kenobi or whatever to appease them and alinate the casuals so we’ll see.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Aug 19, 2018 13:15:11 GMT
trimming to focus on the bits I'm responding to Holdo's secret plan was to abandon the ship and have the rebels slip off and sneak away while the bad guys were focussing on the ship. Poe, on the other hand, was determined to keep the ship despite that it didn't have enough power to defeat the enemy's main forces and just put virtually all the rebel forces in one place making them more vulnerable. Poe's interference led to the plans being leaked putting the evacuated forces in jeopardy resulting in the need for more desperate measures Rey was told there was nothing interesting about HER PARENTS - she's the one who matters, they don't I will say that I enjoyed the film though I felt that it and The Force Awakens had too much of the big picture events taking place off screen with little clarity about the overall state of the galaxy. Part of the controversy is as with Skyfall it went against the normal tropes of the franchise. However, while Skyfall's statement was the Bond franchise is old and tiored and needs to be destroyed and stripped down to the core and rebuilt, The Last Jedi's statements were Rebellions are not about blowing up random things but about whispering campaigns and building support among the population (the scene with the children was the rebellion done right). and criminals can not be trusted many will betray for money... Interesting Skyfall you could say was an attempt to keep in the style of the books for the anniversary (and personally I think it worked.) Last Jedi was almost Johnson's personnel fan fic and sorry I find Holdo's plan and her attitude towards it and everyone maddening.
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I thought Skyfall was about a sub-par Bond trying to do what he did in every other movie only to fail every time while all the recurring supporting characters got killed off so their replacements (introduced in this movie) could take over giving the franchise a soft reboot (i.e. changing everything without retconning or actually starting again).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 13:16:19 GMT
and alienated fandom so them so they never went to see solo...putting the future plans into turmoil…..you watch much the same will happen to doctor who over the next few years...…. but glad you enjoyed it......have you watched the delete scenes on the DVD for a true insight in the mind of a misguided director. May Happen
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Could Happen. Just the same as we could see popularity like back in the tennant era or at least the eqivilent taking in to acount recordings and streaming.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 13:21:39 GMT
Finally, an ally! In a world where even being indifferent on the last jedi is treason, one must hide any enjoyment from the last jedi or fear the consequence! seriously tho ik people have reasons to be attached to characters and have definations of what makes star wars star wars and doctor who doctor who for example...but jeeze i really fail to see how is as bad a film which people say it “objectively” is which is stupid everything, more or less, is subjective. As long as i can say the last jedi is good and why its good it’s not objectively bad but whatever, that annoys me. I dunno i just feel for a blockbuster film set in space, i dont think its ever striven to be more than fun archetypal good vs. Evil story with all your props charater types and your disequilibrium of the empire ruling and all that jazz. All basic stuff for the most part with maybes the prequels trying to be something more than that and successing to varying degrees. personally, its entertaining to me at the least. I enjoyed a lot of stuff in it and enjoyed the subversion of steryotypes tho i think thats because i despise mystery boxes thanks to Moffat so seeing all of them crushed like snoke and Reys parents made me very happy people calling it the worst film ever or attocious as many do...well tbh i envy them if tlj is the worst, they’re far more attrocious and offensive films out there anyway ive said far too much, i must now flee back into hiding, farewell. One must never flee.Everyone is entitled to an opinion.I enjoyed that it i subverted the stereotypes as you say.I expected a run of the mill Star Wars Story and it was not.Visually it was a great for the eyes.I liked that Rey was a nobody ,no history just a poor kid sold for drink.I liked that the villain Snoke was despatched.I liked that Kylo didn’t go with Rey.I don’t have to write screeds to justify my like or even my dislike.Just like I won’t write screeds about my Doctor Who likes and dislikes and I won’t hide from voicing my opinion either and holding to it. It was not some pubescent fan fantasy as a lot of writing seems to be especially when I look at Doctor Who or some of the other stuff.Yes Leila flew through space with her untapped Jedi potential but it was no worse than daddy skywalker flying through the air off a speeder or jumping really high distances etc etc.Its a film,a movie,entertainment I do not own the property my life isn’t invested in it to the point it will destroy my happiness.Yes people are passionate about it,but that same passion should be invested in causes that require it not in movies and tv shows. Perhaps it’s just the Scot in me.B..g.r what others think of your opinion. I was being quite facetious saying i run away. I just usually dont care enough to be honest as like you said, i like what i like. I dont need to justify just because some people loath it.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 19, 2018 13:25:40 GMT
Interesting Skyfall you could say was an attempt to keep in the style of the books for the anniversary (and personally I think it worked.) Last Jedi was almost Johnson's personnel fan fic and sorry I find Holdo's plan and her attitude towards it and everyone maddening.
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I thought Skyfall was about a sub-par Bond trying to do what he did in every other movie only to fail every time while all the recurring supporting characters got killed off so their replacements (introduced in this movie) could take over giving the franchise a soft reboot (i.e. changing everything without retconning or actually starting again). Fair enough I think the same could be said for The Last Jedi,
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 13:27:09 GMT
and alienated fandom so them so they never went to see solo...putting the future plans into turmoil…..you watch much the same will happen to doctor who over the next few years...…. but glad you enjoyed it......have you watched the delete scenes on the DVD for a true insight in the mind of a misguided director. No, some of the fandom are alienated. I mean star wars is a massive franchise so obviously a portion of the fan base is larger than doctor who per say but then i guess thats my point. Star war films will always be around and a load of people will like them. Fans old and new, cos new fans, whilst they might not be fighting trolls on twitter, are very much a thing. Theyll be growing up on the force awakens and loving them. The reason Solo failed is because it was just a nostalgia fest nobody wanted that was right after infinity war and deadpool. It never stood a chance in may to start with but tbh really, why would kids wanna watch a film about people they barely know? They wanna know about Fin and Po and Rey. That’s proppably why they've halted plans for the star wars storys as if they can’t apeal to star wars Die hards then whats the point in nostalgia, they may as well continue with what they want to do and ignore them, and so they should tbh. If some fans don’t like the direction its taking thats on them. Then again won’t suprise me if ep 9 is just jj abrams course correcting making snoke plaugis and reys parents obi wan kenobi or whatever to appease them and alinate the casuals so we’ll see. There is a thing as so much of a good thing-Solo I didn’t know was on and couldn’t manage at the time anyway and i always know i can get the DVD.Its the same as all the Big Finish spin Offs if you are going to spin off make it big make it memorable and i may buy it.Jago and lightfoot for instance. Invest in the main product make the MAIN RANGE unmissable. I find it hard to go into other ranges and know its the same writers i know it has expanded lately with lots of new names added to the pool which is a good thing new writers mingling with old new ideas mixing.Star wars is an event thing LOTR was an event movie we saw it as a Family outing.I dont want one every week. To me Reys story was the best way her parents were nothing.The fans thought they knew it all that history and what they knew was the important thing.It was the best option .New fans come from nowhere and will refresh things in the Star Wars universe and the Doctor who Universe too
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Post by sherlock on Aug 19, 2018 14:00:12 GMT
Tbh I'm not sure Solo's weak performance was entirely down to the The Last Jedi. Solo's marketing was shorter than the previous films due to only being a few months after The Last Jedi so I think it failed to make as big an impression, seemingly relying on name recognition of Han Solo alone as its main draw. Just my opinion.
I liked The Last Jedi overall. I didn't love it, it is not a flawless movie (it's length is my biggest qualm). I liked the discarding of Snoke and Rey's parentage (her being a nobody is such a better choice than 'secret child of Obi-Wan/Luke/Han and Leia' imo), I was ambivalent about Canto Bight (I get the point it was making and I get how it fits into Finn's story but it just felt like a drag on the story), I wasn't sure about the revelations about Luke but they provided decent reasoning for him cutting himself off and paid off at the end, I loved the lightspeed ram (all the plot threads colliding in that one moment-great storytelling!), I loved the lightsaber fight in the throne room, I loved Luke's final trick and his death and I liked the Force-using child at the end (rip the aristocratic Force, long live the populist Force).
So yeah I found more to like than to dislike. I didn't walk out of the theatre loving it, but I did enjoy it.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 19, 2018 14:09:14 GMT
Tbh I'm not sure Solo's weak performance was entirely down to the The Last Jedi. Solo's marketing was shorter than the previous films due to only being a few months after The Last Jedi so I think it failed to make as big an impression, seemingly relying on name recognition of Han Solo alone as its main draw. Just my opinion. I liked The Last Jedi overall. I didn't love it, it is not a flawless movie (it's length is my biggest qualm). I liked the discarding of Snoke and Rey's parentage (her being a nobody is such a better choice than 'secret child of Obi-Wan/Luke/Han and Leia' imo), I was ambivalent about Canto Bight (I get the point it was making and I get how it fits into Finn's story but it just felt like a drag on the story), I wasn't sure about the revelations about Luke but they provided decent reasoning for him cutting himself off and paid off at the end, I loved the lightspeed ram (all the plot threads colliding in that one moment-great storytelling!), I loved the lightsaber fight in the throne room, I loved Luke's final trick and his death and I liked the Force-using child at the end (rip the aristocratic Force, long live the populist Force). So yeah I found more to like than to dislike. I didn't walk out of the theatre loving it, but I did enjoy it. The Kid did use the Force then? I've watched that bit 3 times and I'm still not sure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 14:15:00 GMT
Tbh I'm not sure Solo's weak performance was entirely down to the The Last Jedi. Solo's marketing was shorter than the previous films due to only being a few months after The Last Jedi so I think it failed to make as big an impression, seemingly relying on name recognition of Han Solo alone as its main draw. Just my opinion. I liked The Last Jedi overall. I didn't love it, it is not a flawless movie (it's length is my biggest qualm). I liked the discarding of Snoke and Rey's parentage (her being a nobody is such a better choice than 'secret child of Obi-Wan/Luke/Han and Leia' imo), I was ambivalent about Canto Bight (I get the point it was making and I get how it fits into Finn's story but it just felt like a drag on the story), I wasn't sure about the revelations about Luke but they provided decent reasoning for him cutting himself off and paid off at the end, I loved the lightspeed ram (all the plot threads colliding in that one moment-great storytelling!), I loved the lightsaber fight in the throne room, I loved Luke's final trick and his death and I liked the Force-using child at the end (rip the aristocratic Force, long live the populist Force). So yeah I found more to like than to dislike. I didn't walk out of the theatre loving it, but I did enjoy it. The Kid did use the Force then? I've watched that bit 3 times and I'm still not sure.
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Hated that bit. This is Star Wars NOT Harry Potter!
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Post by sherlock on Aug 19, 2018 14:15:36 GMT
Tbh I'm not sure Solo's weak performance was entirely down to the The Last Jedi. Solo's marketing was shorter than the previous films due to only being a few months after The Last Jedi so I think it failed to make as big an impression, seemingly relying on name recognition of Han Solo alone as its main draw. Just my opinion. I liked The Last Jedi overall. I didn't love it, it is not a flawless movie (it's length is my biggest qualm). I liked the discarding of Snoke and Rey's parentage (her being a nobody is such a better choice than 'secret child of Obi-Wan/Luke/Han and Leia' imo), I was ambivalent about Canto Bight (I get the point it was making and I get how it fits into Finn's story but it just felt like a drag on the story), I wasn't sure about the revelations about Luke but they provided decent reasoning for him cutting himself off and paid off at the end, I loved the lightspeed ram (all the plot threads colliding in that one moment-great storytelling!), I loved the lightsaber fight in the throne room, I loved Luke's final trick and his death and I liked the Force-using child at the end (rip the aristocratic Force, long live the populist Force). So yeah I found more to like than to dislike. I didn't walk out of the theatre loving it, but I did enjoy it. The Kid did use the Force then? I've watched that bit 3 times and I'm still not sure.
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It is quite a subtle movement, but yeah he did (presumably subconsciously). Luke Skywalker's legacy inspiring a new generation of Jedi
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 14:23:35 GMT
Tbh I'm not sure Solo's weak performance was entirely down to the The Last Jedi. Solo's marketing was shorter than the previous films due to only being a few months after The Last Jedi so I think it failed to make as big an impression, seemingly relying on name recognition of Han Solo alone as its main draw. Just my opinion. I liked The Last Jedi overall. I didn't love it, it is not a flawless movie (it's length is my biggest qualm). I liked the discarding of Snoke and Rey's parentage (her being a nobody is such a better choice than 'secret child of Obi-Wan/Luke/Han and Leia' imo), I was ambivalent about Canto Bight (I get the point it was making and I get how it fits into Finn's story but it just felt like a drag on the story), I wasn't sure about the revelations about Luke but they provided decent reasoning for him cutting himself off and paid off at the end, I loved the lightspeed ram (all the plot threads colliding in that one moment-great storytelling!), I loved the lightsaber fight in the throne room, I loved Luke's final trick and his death and I liked the Force-using child at the end (rip the aristocratic Force, long live the populist Force). So yeah I found more to like than to dislike. I didn't walk out of the theatre loving it, but I did enjoy it. The Kid did use the Force then? I've watched that bit 3 times and I'm still not sure.
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Yeah he used the force i said that first thing when we walked out of the theatre for every wee lad who used to use a mop handle as a lightsabre
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Post by muckypup on Aug 19, 2018 14:30:43 GMT
and alienated fandom so them so they never went to see solo...putting the future plans into turmoil…..you watch much the same will happen to doctor who over the next few years...…. but glad you enjoyed it......have you watched the delete scenes on the DVD for a true insight in the mind of a misguided director. You are assuming am all for the new direction Doctor Who has taken? Solo will make its money on Dvd Sales etc. But perhaps the “obscenity” that is the movie industry needs,kicked occasionally,the massive budgets and the massive profits such as Avengers Infinity-now there was a crap movie-i mean it is takings in billions now while a large part of the world starves or is without water,perhaps it is high time we evaluate how much enetertainment actually rules our minds and pockets and the movie industry should evaluate that movies can be made at a fraction of the costs. The director is misguided?because Fandom says he is misguided because he did not give you the type of movie that Fandom wanted-I am A Fan he delivered a movie that i enjoyed-A LOT.Fandom is wide and varied and i get from previous posts that those fans are “scared” to voice a positive reaction.I never based any reaction to a product on others opinions i based it on my own.That is like in school days were you didn’t say you liked a bit of pop music because everyone liked something else,i like what i like. We must be free to disagree with the popular choice. perhaps I was wrong to mention dr who...…..stirs up too much trouble..... I suppose what I am saying is you don't keep a franchise doing well but making a movie that only half the fans like. JJ did a box ticking exercise for force awakens but set things up, to keep you coming back for more, while Johnson took a sledgehammer and made a movie that said I don't care if you come back for more. sometimes you just have to tow the line and give people what they want with just a little twist! its great to have different opinions, hell one of my favourite movies is Hudson hawk!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 14:40:25 GMT
You are assuming am all for the new direction Doctor Who has taken? Solo will make its money on Dvd Sales etc. But perhaps the “obscenity” that is the movie industry needs,kicked occasionally,the massive budgets and the massive profits such as Avengers Infinity-now there was a crap movie-i mean it is takings in billions now while a large part of the world starves or is without water,perhaps it is high time we evaluate how much enetertainment actually rules our minds and pockets and the movie industry should evaluate that movies can be made at a fraction of the costs. The director is misguided?because Fandom says he is misguided because he did not give you the type of movie that Fandom wanted-I am A Fan he delivered a movie that i enjoyed-A LOT.Fandom is wide and varied and i get from previous posts that those fans are “scared” to voice a positive reaction.I never based any reaction to a product on others opinions i based it on my own.That is like in school days were you didn’t say you liked a bit of pop music because everyone liked something else,i like what i like. We must be free to disagree with the popular choice. perhaps I was wrong to mention dr who...…..stirs up too much trouble..... I suppose what I am saying is you don't keep a franchise doing well but making a movie that only half the fans like. JJ did a box ticking exercise for force awakens but set things up, to keep you coming back for more, while Johnson took a sledgehammer and made a movie that said I don't care if you come back for more. sometimes you just have to tow the line and give people what they want with just a little twist! its great to have different opinions, hell one of my favourite movies is Hudson hawk! Never seen Hudson Hawk maybe one day. Doctor Who is a passionate subject for some,some alarmingly so. Star Wars the same but people invest tooooo much time in them that it ruins their enjoyment totally,that does not appear particularly healthy-walk away,switch off.Find a new franchise etc. Go invest in Survivors or Omega or any other and put the passion there.People tend to get very negative about things that are trivial. You didn’t like the film you did like the film,either way it engages folks and engagement in discussion is always good but not to the point that it destroys friendships or creates unwanted fear of expressing an opinion. I hate Torchwood but i dont go on Torchwood Forums to express it,i leave fans to enjoy what they enjoy(and really dont engage me why lol).
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Post by muckypup on Aug 19, 2018 18:55:16 GMT
perhaps I was wrong to mention dr who...…..stirs up too much trouble..... I suppose what I am saying is you don't keep a franchise doing well but making a movie that only half the fans like. JJ did a box ticking exercise for force awakens but set things up, to keep you coming back for more, while Johnson took a sledgehammer and made a movie that said I don't care if you come back for more. sometimes you just have to tow the line and give people what they want with just a little twist! its great to have different opinions, hell one of my favourite movies is Hudson hawk! Never seen Hudson Hawk maybe one day. Doctor Who is a passionate subject for some,some alarmingly so. Star Wars the same but people invest tooooo much time in them that it ruins their enjoyment totally,that does not appear particularly healthy-walk away,switch off.Find a new franchise etc. Go invest in Survivors or Omega or any other and put the passion there.People tend to get very negative about things that are trivial. You didn’t like the film you did like the film,either way it engages folks and engagement in discussion is always good but not to the point that it destroys friendships or creates unwanted fear of expressing an opinion. I hate Torchwood but i dont go on Torchwood Forums to express it,i leave fans to enjoy what they enjoy(and really dont engage me why lol). hell be careful…….don't send them already depressed to survivors …….the most depressing audios BF do …… omega factor not much better...…lol but on a serious note there are people that need that crutch, under stand it or not saying walk away is cruel...…..if your family piss you off you don't walk away and join someone else...….sometimes its all people have...… torchwood is great......may I as why.....on second thoughts best not open another can of worms...…..lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 18:57:23 GMT
Never seen Hudson Hawk maybe one day. Doctor Who is a passionate subject for some,some alarmingly so. Star Wars the same but people invest tooooo much time in them that it ruins their enjoyment totally,that does not appear particularly healthy-walk away,switch off.Find a new franchise etc. Go invest in Survivors or Omega or any other and put the passion there.People tend to get very negative about things that are trivial. You didn’t like the film you did like the film,either way it engages folks and engagement in discussion is always good but not to the point that it destroys friendships or creates unwanted fear of expressing an opinion. I hate Torchwood but i dont go on Torchwood Forums to express it,i leave fans to enjoy what they enjoy(and really dont engage me why lol). hell be careful…….don't send them already depressed to survivors …….the most depressing audios BF do …… omega factor not much better...…lol but on a serious note there are people that need that crutch, under stand it or not saying walk away is cruel...…..if your family piss you off you don't walk away and join someone else...….sometimes its all people have...… torchwood is great......may I as why.....on second thoughts best not open another can of worms...…..lol Fully understand the crutch needed one myself a while back but had to turn to something higher than a TV program but it could have been the grand design lol yeah you dont want to go there lol😂
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