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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 12:38:39 GMT
Interesting you mention Colin Treverrow. I thought I read somewhere that Rian Johnson was writing the script for IX and Colin was going to direct that? Guess that all changed when they sacked him He was asked for a story treatment but said he wouldn't be writing the film well before Trevorrow was sacked. JJ will be co-writing with Chris Terrio who gave us the wonderful Argo and the abysmal Batman V Superman. Terrio is credited as co-writer for Justice League but no-one knows who actually did what in that hot mess so I won't hold all that against him. The writers of Mission Impossible 3 (ie. the good MI) and Argo joining up could be something cool.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 20, 2017 16:44:58 GMT
Interesting you mention Colin Treverrow. I thought I read somewhere that Rian Johnson was writing the script for IX and Colin was going to direct that? Guess that all changed when they sacked him He was asked for a story treatment but said he wouldn't be writing the film well before Trevorrow was sacked. JJ will be co-writing with Chris Terrio who gave us the wonderful Argo and the abysmal Batman V Superman. Terrio is credited as co-writer for Justice League but no-one knows who actually did what in that hot mess so I won't hold all that against him. The writers of Mission Impossible 3 (ie. the good MI) and Argo joining up could be something cool. Ah okay. Means they really didnt like what Treverrow wanted to do then Fingers crossed
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 16:58:19 GMT
He was asked for a story treatment but said he wouldn't be writing the film well before Trevorrow was sacked. JJ will be co-writing with Chris Terrio who gave us the wonderful Argo and the abysmal Batman V Superman. Terrio is credited as co-writer for Justice League but no-one knows who actually did what in that hot mess so I won't hold all that against him. The writers of Mission Impossible 3 (ie. the good MI) and Argo joining up could be something cool. Ah okay. Means they really didnt like what Treverrow wanted to do then Fingers crossed By all accounts he was a total jerk on set and that's why they got rid of him - Book Of Henry bombing also helped. Basically the same reason they dumped Josh Trank who was about to be announced as director of the Boba Fett movie - Fantastic Four bombed and with him being difficult in pre-production.....bye Josh. Things seemed a bit different with Miller and Lord getting fired from the Han Solo movie. They seemed to be improvising a lot and the rushes worried Lucasfilm. So they get the competent but completely safe and uninspiring Ron Howard in to replace them. Basically - be nice on set, and if you can't be nice....don't have a flop movie in the interim - and stick to the script. Gareth Edwards had issues on Rogue One too but never got replaced though Tony Gilroy essentially directed the extensive reshoots when Kathleen Kennedy thought the film wasn't "Star Wars" enough.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 20, 2017 21:01:39 GMT
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 21, 2017 12:21:19 GMT
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 21, 2017 12:23:23 GMT
Ah okay. Means they really didnt like what Treverrow wanted to do then Fingers crossed By all accounts he was a total jerk on set and that's why they got rid of him - Book Of Henry bombing also helped. Basically the same reason they dumped Josh Trank who was about to be announced as director of the Boba Fett movie - Fantastic Four bombed and with him being difficult in pre-production.....bye Josh. Things seemed a bit different with Miller and Lord getting fired from the Han Solo movie. They seemed to be improvising a lot and the rushes worried Lucasfilm. So they get the competent but completely safe and uninspiring Ron Howard in to replace them. Basically - be nice on set, and if you can't be nice....don't have a flop movie in the interim - and stick to the script. Gareth Edwards had issues on Rogue One too but never got replaced though Tony Gilroy essentially directed the extensive reshoots when Kathleen Kennedy thought the film wasn't "Star Wars" enough. Loo yeah that backfired on them pretty much. I do hope they do a Boba Fett movie. again have ideas for it lol
I'd love to see Edwards original ending for Rogue One, especially since most of it was used in the trailers
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Post by Timelord007 on Dec 22, 2017 6:43:23 GMT
For those that love and hate it we seem to generally have found the casino scene and chase to be the more problematic, and the pacing and length to be issues that could have been better. Those seem to be the areas there's not much disagreement on, only degrees. Despite Poe being - along with Luke - easily my favourite part of the film, I'm still not sure his "Holding for General Hux" thing was as funny as Rian did. It didn't really get laughs in the audience I was in. His "Who talks first, you talk first? I talk first?" in Ep VII worked better. This gag just had the audience all thinking "Do they have the same phone etiquette we do in the Star Wars Universe? Do they have phones?". I did like the way both actors played it but it didn't feel part of this world. Though, as I think I said, I love that Poe has gone from "Well, he's the new Han Solo" to the new heir apparent to Leia. Suberting expectations again. Interesting that JJ Abrams is back for Ep IX. Will he continue to subvert or will he revert to his more traditionalist style as he showed in Ep VII? There aren't many cliffhangers, nothing to dictate where the next one has to go or what timeframe so it could be anything. Then, I wonder what Colin Treverrow's ideas were going to be before Lucasfilm fired him? One odd thing is that despite loving this a lot more than Force Awakens (which I was a big fan of anyway), it doesn't leave me as eager to see the next one as the last film did. Not enough was left dangling to really keep me on tenterhooks, it loses the idea of the serial nature of the trilogies really. Again, subversive,but perhaps not in the best way to keep audiences enthralled over the next 18 months. Much of this worked as the end of the story not quite so much the middle part. I should say I have zero interest in the young Han Solo movie. Firing Miller and Lord was one thing but hiring Ron Howard? I already thought the premise would lend itself to be 100% fanservice "Here's Han winning the Falcon" "Here's the Kessel Run" "Here's how Chewie owes him a life-debt" but hiring the premier safe pair of Hollywood hands just confirmed my fear it's going to be risk-free and sterile. I hope to be wrong. I agree with you on the Han Solo movie do we really need to know more about this characters past?, i do hope a Kenobi or Vader movie gets greenlite in the near future & if Boba Fett got a spin off film that would be amazing, his death in ROTJ was poorly handled to give the audience a cheap laugh.
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Post by glutamodo on Dec 22, 2017 10:23:44 GMT
Yeah, that Fett Death was pretty darn cheap, but as one of those who had NOT latched onto the character I thought it was OK at the time and I expect the filmmakers anticipated my own reaction would be common enough that they went with it. It was years later that I learned about the "Boba Fett Cult"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 23:06:03 GMT
I should say I have zero interest in the young Han Solo movie. Firing Miller and Lord was one thing but hiring Ron Howard? I already thought the premise would lend itself to be 100% fanservice "Here's Han winning the Falcon" "Here's the Kessel Run" "Here's how Chewie owes him a life-debt" but hiring the premier safe pair of Hollywood hands just confirmed my fear it's going to be risk-free and sterile. I hope to be wrong. I agree with you on the Han Solo movie do we really need to know more about this characters past?, i do hope a Kenobi or Vader movie gets greenlite in the near future & if Boba Fett got a spin off film that would be amazing, his death in ROTJ was poorly handled to give the audience a cheap laugh. I don't need any of them, honestly. But gotta milk that cash cow. I prefer the idea for Rian Johnson to do a new trilogy in the SW universe. Better than the spinoffs that will just be pure fan-service. Ewan McGregor getting a good film to be Obi-Wan in though? Even if it is fan-jodrell, I wouldn't grudge him that as he was - along with Ian McDiarmid - the best thing about the prequels.
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Post by Timelord007 on Dec 23, 2017 9:41:53 GMT
Rian Johnson is the devil, just keep him away from further Star Wars movies.
Ewan was just a amazing Kenobi, how could Lucas cast this role so right & Anakin so wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 11:17:17 GMT
Rian Johnson has directed 4 movies - 3 are absolutely terrific (Last Jedi, Looper and Brick) and one is a fun bit of fluff (Brothers Bloom). On TV he directed 3 of the most iconic Breaking Bad eps (The Fly, 51 and Ozymandias - the latter considered one of the finest episodes of TV ever). I have zero issues with him getting to do his own original Star Wars trilogy. He's terrific. Original and bold.
Rather him than a safe Ron Howard any day.
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Post by redsharkJason on Dec 24, 2017 1:50:37 GMT
Britain's Siskel & Ebert - Simon & Davy!
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Post by Timelord007 on Dec 24, 2017 9:04:15 GMT
Britain's Siskel & Ebert - Simon & Davy! Lmao what a awesome quote redsharkJason, me & Davy reviewing movies together OMG if that was on Tv I'd enjoy watching that, Davys completely wrong of course about the Last Jedi but it's ok we all get it wrong sometimes even Mr Gallagher We both did agree on Blade Runner being good though, we disagree on various films & Doctor Who but he's a down to earth nice chap & even if i don't always agree with his opinion i respect it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 14:30:55 GMT
Well I just saw this, and I have no idea what any of the complaints are about (apart from being too long, that is).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 14:46:27 GMT
Britain's Siskel & Ebert - Simon & Davy! Lmao what a awesome quote redsharkJason, me & Davy reviewing movies together OMG if that was on Tv I'd enjoy watching that, Davys completely wrong of course about the Last Jedi but it's ok we all get it wrong sometimes even Mr Gallagher We both did agree on Blade Runner being good though, we disagree on various films & Doctor Who but he's a down to earth nice chap & even if i don't always agree with his opinion i respect it. Yep, and you can trust this man ^ on movies because he's just posted on the other thread about buying Jean Claude Van Damme's latest opus and the conclusion of the much anticipated Jeepers Creepers trilogy. I'm defo the Ebert of the two....you can be Siskel! Yes, we did agree on Blade Runner - hopefully we'll agree on a few more GOOD movies in 2018. Better we all like the stuff we're paying for after all - no-one spends 15 quid not to like something. Besides... I'm sure you'll love Friday The 13th Part 47 or the latest Chuck Norris effort Timelord.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 14:50:04 GMT
Well I just saw this, and I have no idea what any of the complaints are about (apart from being too long, that is). I'm glad more people are saying they enjoyed it in the past few pages, the thread got off to a rocky start. Nice not to feel so out on a limb!
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Post by nudge on Dec 24, 2017 15:09:11 GMT
So many mixed reviews; what's 'The Last Jedi' like compared to 'The Force Awakens'. I didn't like 'TFA' at all so never even bothered going to watch 'Rogue One'.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Dec 24, 2017 16:25:30 GMT
Well I just saw this, and I have no idea what any of the complaints are about (apart from being too long, that is). i enjoyed it myself as far as I can tell (other than the length) the main objections were 1) people didn't like what Luke had being doing after the original trilogy 2) people didn't like Rose 3) people wanted the film to feature some plot ideas that Johnson didn't use
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Post by rran on Dec 24, 2017 16:29:08 GMT
So many mixed reviews; what's 'The Last Jedi' like compared to 'The Force Awakens'. I didn't like 'TFA' at all so never even bothered going to watch 'Rogue One'. I found TFA meh, loved Rogue one totally and was absolutely irritated with the last jedi.. so it’s really your choice. Many hated it, many loved it..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 18:51:11 GMT
So many mixed reviews; what's 'The Last Jedi' like compared to 'The Force Awakens'. I didn't like 'TFA' at all so never even bothered going to watch 'Rogue One'. Honestly, no-one can answer that for you for this film in particular. It's divided people so much - some of who loved TFA and some who didnt - that it's probably the only SW film you really have to see just to know for yourself. I could tell reasonably accurately if Rogue One was gonna be someone's cup of tea and I knew which of my friends would love TFA.....this one has reactions all over the shop. I've got a friend who thinks it's the only good SW film since Empire who long resigned himself to only digging the EU novels and has been rejuvenated by it and I've got another who adored TFA and thinks this ruined it. And I don't agree with either one of them! A real Rorschach test of a film.
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