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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 18, 2017 23:38:47 GMT
But when it's a DVD per serial you find that you start running out of space for things in no time. I doubt I'm alone in being willing to sacrifice picture quality for more shelf space. Again, we circle back to I am completely mystified by that point of view. Get a bigger shelf.. That depends on space in the house. Much easier to just go for classic series Blu-ray box sets.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 18, 2017 23:45:39 GMT
I can see the advantage of having whole Doctor Who seasons on Blu-ray for space saving reasons, but the picture quality would be doing the Blu-ray format a disservice as you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, so the picture quality would be poor with picture imperfections magnified by the higher resolution. But of course, release them in a nice collectable steelbook and Doctor Who fans will buy them anyway. Exactly. The episodes look about as good as they can on DVD. The move to Blu-ray would not be an improvement, so my DVDs look fine on the shelf where they at. Less shelf space or crappy looking blu-rays? Less shelf space wins it. EDIT: And I get the allure of having complete seasons on 2 or 4 blu-rays, just not at the expense of the of the image.
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Post by Whovitt on Dec 18, 2017 23:59:13 GMT
Again, we circle back to I am completely mystified by that point of view. Get a bigger shelf.. That depends on space in the house. Much easier to just go for classic series Blu-ray box sets. I understand the lack of space issue (if you saw my Big Finish shelf, you'd understand - that thing is not big enough, but I'll do my damnedest to fit everything on it... until it simply won't; but I digress ). However, the whole point of restoring Doctor Who for DVD was so that the fans could ditch their off-air 80's dupes and ageing VHS's and move on to a long-term, reliable, and much better looking copy/format. After over a decade's hard work making this stuff look how it does (which, by the way, is amazing!), to deliberately go out of their way and re-release this stuff in a way that will make all that work pointless is almost offensive to me, let alone the Restoration Team, the people who actually dedicated all those years to making this stuff what it is. The purpose of releasing Doctor Who on DVD was so that people could enjoy these stories in the best possible quality, so the likelihood that they'll release them on Blu-ray at a lower quality? About as likely as The Feast of Steven showing up (not necessarily 100% impossible, but probably not less than 99%...)
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 19, 2017 0:43:43 GMT
That depends on space in the house. Much easier to just go for classic series Blu-ray box sets. I understand the lack of space issue (if you saw my Big Finish shelf, you'd understand - that thing is not big enough, but I'll do my damnedest to fit everything on it... until it simply won't; but I digress ). However, the whole point of restoring Doctor Who for DVD was so that the fans could ditch their off-air 80's dupes and ageing VHS's and move on to a long-term, reliable, and much better looking copy/format. After over a decade's hard work making this stuff look how it does (which, by the way, is amazing!), to deliberately go out of their way and re-release this stuff in a way that will make all that work pointless is almost offensive to me, let alone the Restoration Team, the people who actually dedicated all those years to making this stuff what it is. The purpose of releasing Doctor Who on DVD was so that people could enjoy these stories in the best possible quality, so the likelihood that they'll release them on Blu-ray at a lower quality? About as likely as The Feast of Steven showing up (not necessarily 100% impossible, but probably not less than 99%...) It's why I posed that hyperlink to the Restoration Team's web site and to their Vidfire page. It is worth taking the time to learn about all the hard work they put in to make those releases look as good and as period specific as they did. The whole point of moving from one format to another is that the movies & TV shows you love receive an upgrade. If there isn't in upgrade, then what is the point? And don't say shelf space please.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Dec 19, 2017 6:22:02 GMT
Because you can fit it onto less discs if it’s bluray. Yeah but hi-def video is not kind to vintage video tape. It's going to look like crap. Sorry. Have you seen doctor who?
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Post by number13 on Dec 19, 2017 10:40:07 GMT
The answer is simple. Install The Shelves of Infinity and give your classic 'Doctor Who' collection the space it really deserves. I can't see the point of the 'space saving' debate if one has only 22 classic DVDs. That's barely a footnote in the full fabulous collection. And I agree - we owe the restoration team so much for the effort they put in. Culminating (IMO) in the frame-by-frame restoration of 'The Mind of Evil' episode 1 so my Doctor could live in full colour again across all his adventures - nothing short of a miracle.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 10:56:37 GMT
I wonder how many companies are kicking themselves for recording on videotape rather than film in this day and age? I have to wonder...
I think one of the biggest problems they'd come up against is the question: "What can this release give me that I can't already get by native upscaling?" For reference, upscaling is a process used on a lot of Blu-ray and DVD players to take an image that was originally released in say, 480p and boosting it up to 720p by filling in the gaps. As a result, you can watch The Caves of Androzani in pseudo-HD if you wish. It's not quite as good as the real thing, but it's a change.
I'm a little bit curious now whether there's been any progress in Blu-ray videotape transfers.
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Post by mrperson on Dec 19, 2017 19:17:57 GMT
I don't think I'd want to see the price tag on the entire classic series on new blu-ray releases....
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Post by doomlord on Dec 20, 2017 15:42:49 GMT
See, that just mystifies me. You want shelf space? Store the episodes on hard drives. Moving up to a higher definition format is about your favorite things looking better, not worse. Yeah sure the episodes look like crap but look at all the extra room I have! Whatever. A hard drive's not the same. Physical copies are much better in my view as you can actually see them on a shelf. Out of interest DB, how many Classic Doctor Who DVDs do you have and which one’s are they?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 20, 2017 16:11:33 GMT
A hard drive's not the same. Physical copies are much better in my view as you can actually see them on a shelf. Out of interest DB, how many Classic Doctor Who DVDs do you have and which one’s are they? 22 DVDs and they are: An Unearthly Child The Daleks The Edge of Destruction Enemy of the World The Invasion The Three Doctors The Ark In Space Genesis of the Daleks Earthshock The Five Doctors The Twin Dilemma The Two Doctors Paradise Towers Remembrance of the Daleks As well as the Regeneration box set, the Key to Time set, Spearhead From Space twice on Blu-ray and the Power of the Daleks Blu-ray Steelbook.
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Post by doomlord on Dec 20, 2017 18:31:34 GMT
Out of interest DB, how many Classic Doctor Who DVDs do you have and which one’s are they? 22 DVDs and they are: An Unearthly Child The Daleks The Edge of Destruction Enemy of the World The Invasion The Three Doctors The Ark In Space Genesis of the Daleks Earthshock The Five Doctors The Twin Dilemma The Two Doctors Paradise Towers Remembrance of the Daleks As well as the Regeneration box set, the Key to Time set, Spearhead From Space twice on Blu-ray and the Power of the Daleks Blu-ray Steelbook. You want to save on shelf space, yet you’re already eating valuable space with cumbersome, odd-fitting and oversized and presentation boxes? 22 DVDs, what’s that, a mere 1ft 1inch? You’d be far better off buying a second-hand small cabinet from the Charity shop or local Facebook ‘for sale or give away’ group, even do as a handful of fans have done and do it up like a TARDIS where you can keep all your DVDs and Big Finish in one smart looking Police Box cabinet, there’s a few ‘how to make’ on YouTube. m.youtube.com/watch?v=d7IJ2EH1JA8 As others here have said, you’d be far better of sticking to the DVDs, as for all we know you may be waiting a very, very long time, possibly well over a decade before any other complete physical format.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Dec 20, 2017 20:08:15 GMT
Simply put, for me who has every region 2 release on DVD, that I know of, if the quality isn't better it isn't worth it. It's one of the reasons I didn't buy the Bluray of the 8th Doctor movie, because it wasn't based off the film negatives. And you can tell the difference, just compare the Bluray of Spearhead with the earlier DVD release.
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Post by stcoop on Dec 24, 2017 16:13:59 GMT
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Post by agentten on Jan 16, 2018 21:27:15 GMT
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Post by mrperson on Jan 16, 2018 23:11:15 GMT
22 DVDs and they are: An Unearthly Child The Daleks The Edge of Destruction Enemy of the World The Invasion The Three Doctors The Ark In Space Genesis of the Daleks Earthshock The Five Doctors The Twin Dilemma The Two Doctors Paradise Towers Remembrance of the Daleks As well as the Regeneration box set, the Key to Time set, Spearhead From Space twice on Blu-ray and the Power of the Daleks Blu-ray Steelbook. You want to save on shelf space, yet you’re already eating valuable space with cumbersome, odd-fitting and oversized and presentation boxes? 22 DVDs, what’s that, a mere 1ft 1inch? You’d be far better off buying a second-hand small cabinet from the Charity shop or local Facebook ‘for sale or give away’ group, even do as a handful of fans have done and do it up like a TARDIS where you can keep all your DVDs and Big Finish in one smart looking Police Box cabinet, there’s a few ‘how to make’ on YouTube. m.youtube.com/watch?v=d7IJ2EH1JA8 As others here have said, you’d be far better of sticking to the DVDs, as for all we know you may be waiting a very, very long time, possibly well over a decade before any other complete physical format. Public service announcement: used furniture = bed bug risk. Over 15 years ago, I spent a few months in a shared house that turned out to be infested. Never again. I'd rather have an infestation of flying spider-monkey-squid. Over time, my reaction to the bites grew worse and worse, to the point where I'd be sitting at work barely able to type because of how swollen my fingers were. And the itching....the itching. NO!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 23:19:55 GMT
Spearhead from Space was good but for the rest the video quality isn't good enough to need a Blu-Ray release
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Post by agentten on Jan 17, 2018 0:53:56 GMT
The article mentions up-scaling the video, which produces somewhat mixed results. I think I'd like to see how it looks before I would consider a purchase. The restoration team did some serious magic with the DVD releases, so I'd be willing to have a look and see if they have some trick that will make the blu-rays look good, but more likely I think the purpose of this release would be to sell the show again in a new format. That's not 100% a bad thing, though, as it might not look as good, but it could mean that new people discover classic Who, which is always a good thing.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 17, 2018 9:44:42 GMT
This has to get a release over here, surely? If this is purely America and Australia only, I'll be writing a strongly worded email to BBC Worldwide.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 10:33:01 GMT
This has to get a release over here, surely? If this is purely America and Australia only, I'll be writing a strongly worded email to BBC Worldwide. And while you waste your time on that, the rest of us can just import the Australian one since we're in the same region coding. You can rephrase that, surely, Davey?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 17, 2018 10:42:12 GMT
This has to get a release over here, surely? If this is purely America and Australia only, I'll be writing a strongly worded email to BBC Worldwide. And while you waste your time on that, the rest of us can just import the Australian one since we're in the same region coding. I don't see why we should have to. It's up to BBC Worldwide to give it to us over here.
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