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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 18:26:19 GMT
In the sitcom Blunt Talk, Spiner played Stewart's piano playing pal he told his troubles to....I could see this being the Picard version of that with Data being a hologram, or in Picard's mind. I doubt he'll have a big role. Ditto 7 of 9 who I bet is only in an ep or two. Yes I agree. Data calls Picard "Captain" in the clip & from what we have learnt so far Picard is no longer a captain.
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Post by Jeedai on Jul 27, 2019 19:11:40 GMT
Yes I agree. Data calls Picard "Captain" in the clip & from what we have learnt so far Picard is no longer a captain. Assuming Picard retired with his rank intact (which seems likely as all indications are he blames himself for Romulus' destruction while Starfleet doesn't), he'd still be entitled to be referred to as Captain. Formal as his speech patterns are, Data (holographic or otherwise) would be more likely to call him Captain than Jean-Luc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 8:51:49 GMT
I keep hearing this a lot, that the destruction of Romulus will play a big part in the show. If this is set 20 years after TNG then it's 7 years after the destruction of Romulus. The show seems to be more focused on the Borg & a new threat from them. Picard didn't have a role in the destruction of Romulus so unless they retcon what happened in the 2009 film it doesnt seen likely that he will blame himself for that. &, apart from fan speculation, I haven't seen anything to indicate this Romulus element to the show.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 0:54:58 GMT
I keep hearing this a lot, that the destruction of Romulus will play a big part in the show. If this is set 20 years after TNG then it's 7 years after the destruction of Romulus. The show seems to be more focused on the Borg & a new threat from them. Picard didn't have a role in the destruction of Romulus so unless they retcon what happened in the 2009 film it doesnt seen likely that he will blame himself for that. &, apart from fan speculation, I haven't seen anything to indicate this Romulus element to the show. I think it stems more from the strong Romulan presence in TNG. They were to the Enterprise-D what Klingons were to the NCC-1701 in the original series. I'd be very surprised if we didn't get at least a mention of how it's affected the Romulan Empire in the meantime given how involved Picard was with Spock and the Reunification process. Come to think of it, with both Spock and Romulus gone, I'd be very surprised if we didn't bump into a Galactica-style fleet or outer colony at some point during the show's run.
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Post by Digi on Jul 29, 2019 0:59:04 GMT
There was also that bit in the first teaser where the narrator said that years ago he had commanded the largest rescue armada in history, that's a dead giveaway.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 29, 2019 7:49:58 GMT
Concerning the Romulans... apart from seeing Romulan people in the Trailer, there is also a minute sequence of what looks to be a huge fleet of warbirds.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 8:05:20 GMT
Concerning the Romulans... apart from seeing Romulan people in the Trailer, there is also a minute sequence of what looks to be a huge fleet of warbirds. And my first thought when I saw that sequence? Romulan warbirds at Vulcan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 9:29:52 GMT
I keep hearing this a lot, that the destruction of Romulus will play a big part in the show. If this is set 20 years after TNG then it's 7 years after the destruction of Romulus. The show seems to be more focused on the Borg & a new threat from them. Picard didn't have a role in the destruction of Romulus so unless they retcon what happened in the 2009 film it doesnt seen likely that he will blame himself for that. &, apart from fan speculation, I haven't seen anything to indicate this Romulus element to the show. I think it stems more from the strong Romulan presence in TNG. They were to the Enterprise-D what Klingons were to the NCC-1701 in the original series. I'd be very surprised if we didn't get at least a mention of how it's affected the Romulan Empire in the meantime given how involved Picard was with Spock and the Reunification process. Come to think of it, with both Spock and Romulus gone, I'd be very surprised if we didn't bump into a Galactica-style fleet or outer colony at some point during the show's run. Yes I enjoyed those TNG episodes with Spock. But for me its always been about the Borg as the biggest & most personal threat for Picard. There was also that bit in the first teaser where the narrator said that years ago he had commanded the largest rescue armada in history, that's a dead giveaway. I must have missed that bit!
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Post by Digi on Jul 29, 2019 12:35:59 GMT
I'm very curious to know what state the Romulan Empire will be at at this point.
In Nemesis (2379, so 20 years before Picard) we saw the Reman uprising, from a slave species to literally slaying the entire Romulan Senate and Praetor -- effectively destroying the government power structure in the Empire. Shinzon and company took over, and then were also defeated/toppled, again leaving the Empire bereft of leadership of any kind.
I have to imagine it would take a little while to stabilize again, whether as a civilian government or through an ambitious military leader seizing control and then needing to stamp out any resistance. But whatever they achieved would have been completely lost eight years later when Romulus was destroyed in 2387.
With the capital destroyed and possibly the largest refugee exodus in galactic history, I have to wonder: 12 years on from the destruction of Romulus, does the Empire even exist anymore? Certainly there would be military elements clinging to power, but what about all the worlds they had conquered? How many of them rebelled and are now independent? How many of them cast off Romulan rule and petitioned for Federation protection? How many of them were immediately conquered by other powers (I'm thinking of the Klingons here), who saw an opportunity in the chaos?
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Post by Digi on Jul 29, 2019 21:36:07 GMT
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Post by agentten on Jul 30, 2019 1:28:18 GMT
Interesting that there are now possibly two Voyager appearances. The question foremost on my mind: will we get any DS9 appearances? It's easily my favorite of the spin-offs, but I'm not sure if we'd see anyone beyond possibly Worf and O'Brien.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jul 30, 2019 17:01:32 GMT
Robert Picardo in early talks to appear in Season 2 Isn't he mates with Sylvester McCoy? Why haven't we had Robert Picardo in a BF?! The question foremost on my mind: will we get any DS9 appearances? I'd be very surprised. Seven of Nine's an obvious choice for a Borg storyline, and the EMH can fit in anywhere; I suspect other characters would be more difficult to make use of.
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Post by Digi on Jul 30, 2019 17:21:42 GMT
I'd also like them not to go too overboard with crossovers. It's nice to see where our old favourites are at, but at the same time, I wouldn't want fan service to distract from the story they're trying to tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 18:36:19 GMT
Never was a fan of Voyager. & not sure why they would want this character in the show. Wasn't he just a holographic Dr?
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Post by Digi on Jul 30, 2019 18:40:53 GMT
Never was a fan of Voyager. & not sure why they would want this character in the show. Wasn't he just a holographic Dr? Honestly he and Seven were the only part of the show I actually liked. They were the only actors on the show who made anything interesting out of the terrible scripts the show had.
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Post by Jeedai on Jul 30, 2019 21:47:39 GMT
I could see a few ways the Doctor could fit into the show...
1) His experience with Seven Of Nine and those ex-Borg children (and multiple opportunities to study regular Borg) could tie in to what the Romulans appear to be doing with the Borg on the cube they've got captured. He may be THE Federation expert on the de-assimilation process alongside Crusher. Making him possibly a useful ally in whatever Picard gets up to, given that Daj appears to be one of the de-assimilated. Or someone Picard would have to negotiate with along the way to get what he needs.
2) He became good friends with Seven Of Nine (Does she even go by that name anymore? Should we start calling her Annika Hansen in this thread?). I could see her acting as Picard's eyes and ears on the Federation end while he's off on his rogue mission. If she's going to call in favors on Picard's behalf, he'd be a likely go-to.
3) His lingering plot thread from Voyager, of becoming an advocate for the civil rights of artificial beings, could come into play if Data is being resurrected or already was. Does Data have the right to sacrifice himself as he did in Nemesis, and have that choice of how he ended his existence respected? Or can he be summoned back into service whenever Starfleet (or a lonely old ex-Captain) pleases? Is that even Data's body in the drawer? Assuming 'Countdown' isn't canon, B4 could have suffered a cascade failure similar to Lal's during the time skip, breaking down when he was on the verge of surpassing his programing. Does whatever remained of B4's mind just get erased so Data's backup copy can have the body? Would Data have wanted that? Or it could be Lore's body. Does Lore get mindwiped/ swapped out for Data 'just' because he's evil and dangerous? Would the Doctor be compelled by his ideals to act as Lore's advocate? There are lots of juicy options here.
Oh, and Worf should get his own show.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 31, 2019 12:34:07 GMT
Again this is if hes Playing the Doc from Voyager rather than Zimmerman
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 13:02:30 GMT
Again this is if hes Playing the Doc from Voyager rather than Zimmerman Who?
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Post by Digi on Jul 31, 2019 13:20:21 GMT
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 31, 2019 14:35:51 GMT
Again this is if hes Playing the Doc from Voyager rather than Zimmerman Oh I do hope he plays the EMH and not Zimmerman. I think Zimmerman is annoying and we already had too many episodes with him. I would be more interested in seeing how the EMH got on, if he developed further and what he is doing now.
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