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Post by nottenst on May 4, 2018 19:04:21 GMT
Listening to the interviews today. I enjoyed the set a lot. "How to Make a Killing in Time Travel" is now one of my favorite Big Finish stories. It was just so much fun all around - just an absolute delight from start to finish with marvelous performances.
I'm looking forward to the next set.
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Post by nottenst on May 7, 2018 14:34:06 GMT
I liked the touch where the start of Sweet Salvation revealed that the Helen and Eleven scenes took place months before the Doctor and Liv scenes. It justified the Doctor and Liv not encountering Helen or the Eleven until the very end, without resorting to missing them by *that* much, like the Tenth Doctor and Donna at the start of Partners in Crime. This was a nice twist to the story. I was thinking things were happening at the same time, but then more and more clues were appearing revealing that something was up. It was a nice story-telling technique that heightened the experience.
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Post by omega on May 8, 2018 0:35:29 GMT
I liked the touch where the start of Sweet Salvation revealed that the Helen and Eleven scenes took place months before the Doctor and Liv scenes. It justified the Doctor and Liv not encountering Helen or the Eleven until the very end, without resorting to missing them by *that* much, like the Tenth Doctor and Donna at the start of Partners in Crime. This was a nice twist to the story. I was thinking things were happening at the same time, but then more and more clues were appearing revealing that something was up. It was a nice story-telling technique that heightened the experience. Stories where the Doctor and Companion are in different time zones are cool, where one is in the event, the other in the aftermath. The Witch from the Well does this. Exploring cause and effect, that sort of thing. Very Mawdryn Undead.
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Post by icecreamdf on May 8, 2018 19:00:40 GMT
This was a nice twist to the story. I was thinking things were happening at the same time, but then more and more clues were appearing revealing that something was up. It was a nice story-telling technique that heightened the experience. Stories where the Doctor and Companion are in different time zones are cool, where one is in the event, the other in the aftermath. The Witch from the Well does this. Exploring cause and effect, that sort of thing. Very Mawdryn Undead. The Girl Who Never Was is another good example.
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Post by Ela on May 22, 2018 5:24:26 GMT
I enjoyed Ravenous. "Their Finest Hour" and "How To Make a Killing in Time Travel" were both very well done. "World of Damnation/Sweet Salvation" finally gets to what's happening with Helen. I know there's a lot more to come, but I kind of thought finding Helen and getting back to the TARDIS came together a little too neatly. I'm sure there will be more to find out about what happened to Helen, though, while she was separated from the Eighth Doctor and Liv. Loved Liv, as usual. And it goes without saying that I love the Eighth Doctor.
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Post by mark687 on May 23, 2018 21:12:45 GMT
Thoughgly enjoyed it overall but I loved How to Make a Killing, every secne, every character zings, the Prince thinking he's been sold out before he's even suspected, every bit of dialogue of Dron (Bravo Jane Booker for coping with it.), all the stuff with the bomb, and Nicola Walker is genius at conveying likeable sarcasism .
Then we reunite with Helen and The Eleven and get reintorodced to the Kandyman.
Now its more subtley described which is a bonus but the clever bit is Nicholas Rowe plays it deadpan, even the puns, but their still funny.
Which leaves us with H and E. The Eleven is as solid as ever (well as solid as a criminal multiple personality can be), and Helen, she's still got The RL's Power which means the Ravenous are coming and apparently all anyone can do is run.
Roll on October
Regards
mark687
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Post by omega on May 26, 2018 7:58:23 GMT
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Post by artist on May 26, 2018 23:11:04 GMT
Would it be possible to listen to this without having heard any of the Doom Coalition sets?
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Post by mark687 on May 26, 2018 23:38:52 GMT
Would it be possible to listen to this without having heard any of the Doom Coalition sets? The 2nd 2 stories are a reintroduction to 2 characters that were in Doom coalition but other than that I'd say you could.
Regards
mark687
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Post by number13 on May 27, 2018 9:52:11 GMT
Would it be possible to listen to this without having heard any of the Doom Coalition sets? Yes, definitely. And I'd highly recommend jumping in.
I did and thought 'Ravenous' was excellent - there's enough explanation provided and where things were hazy for me, they were hazy for the Doctor too (he's not sure what happened at the end of DC and only finds out during this set.)
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lidar2
Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 22, 2018 13:18:46 GMT
Wasn't part of the brief for Ravenous a combination of self-contained stories and stories that fed into a kind of loose fitting story arc? You are correct, but I’m thinking along the lines of The Red Lady and The Galileo Trap — stories which stand on their own on first listening (or at least until the last few minutes), but are ultimately feeding the broader narrative, even if that doesn’t circle around till far later on in the series. Red Lady I picked up on, but not Galileo Trap. How did it feed in?
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jun 22, 2018 14:48:19 GMT
You are correct, but I’m thinking along the lines of The Red Lady and The Galileo Trap — stories which stand on their own on first listening (or at least until the last few minutes), but are ultimately feeding the broader narrative, even if that doesn’t circle around till far later on in the series. Red Lady I picked up on, but not Galileo Trap. How did it feed in? The end led directly into the Satanic Mill
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lidar2
Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 22, 2018 14:49:53 GMT
Red Lady I picked up on, but not Galileo Trap. How did it feed in? The end led directly into the Satanic Mill OK, thanks, I thought the post meant it fed into something in a later box set and wondered what I had missed
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 6, 2018 11:13:29 GMT
Finally listening to this.
The Finest Hour was fine, I thought. It doesn’t do a great deal and Churchill is just a rehash of what we got in Victory of the Daleks. It’s a nice aside to the epic, universe ending Doom Coalition, though, which I guess is the point.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 6, 2018 12:06:42 GMT
Finally listening to this. The Finest Hour was fine, I thought. It doesn’t do a great deal and Churchill is just a rehash of what we got in Victory of the Daleks. It’s a nice aside to the epic, universe ending Doom Coalition, though, which I guess is the point. I agree. Although I think Churchill and the second world war plot works better here than it did in Victory of the Daleks. I quite liked it, I definitely liked it more than I first thought after reading the story blurb.
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 6, 2018 21:34:36 GMT
How to Make a Killing in Time Travel is lots of fun. It’s very Dorney (in a good way!) and it’s a nice throwback to the mid-Lucie era. A memorable supporting cast too.
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 10, 2018 18:46:57 GMT
Just realised I never posted my thoughts on World of Damnation and Sweet Salvation. A weird and wonderful finale, I thought. Very much a two part story that’s hinting towards the overall arc of this series. It made me appreciate the two standalone stories more.
It’s a really good story for Helen. I loved the portrayal of her as the Eleven’s carer, and the Doctor’s cynicism towards her when they’re reunited. It took me a short while to remember what had happened to her and the Eleven at the end of Doom Coalition, but once I recalled I was in the swing of things.
It’s strange to have two Eighth Doctor prison set episodes so close to one another, but I thought World of Damnation did it much better than In the Garden of Death.
I never really felt the need to revisit the Kandyman, but he’s so well realised and the voice is great!
Overall, Ravenous feels like a proper sequel to Doom Coalition. I hope they carry on switching the format around between standalones, two parters and arc episodes.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 15, 2018 22:23:03 GMT
Listening to this again and I have to say I love the banter between Liv and the Doctor ("Fancy regenerating into someone clever anytime soon?"). I am really starting to like Liv more and more (she reminds me a bit of myself). Cannot wait for the next set to come out next month. And now I am quite interested in getting the very first story of Liv with the 7th Doctor...
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 15, 2018 22:33:26 GMT
Listening to this again and I have to say I love the banter between Liv and the Doctor ("Fancy regenerating into someone clever anytime soon?"). I am really starting to like Liv more and more (she reminds me a bit of myself). Cannot wait for the next set to come out next month. And now I am quite interested in getting the very first story of Liv with the 7th Doctor... Liv is not only one of my favorite of The Doctor's traveling companions, she is also one of my favorite characters in Doctor Who period.
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Post by elkawho on Sept 22, 2018 2:09:01 GMT
Listening to this again and I have to say I love the banter between Liv and the Doctor ("Fancy regenerating into someone clever anytime soon?"). I am really starting to like Liv more and more (she reminds me a bit of myself). Cannot wait for the next set to come out next month. And now I am quite interested in getting the very first story of Liv with the 7th Doctor... You should. It's a great listen.
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