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Post by SG. on Jan 10, 2018 16:24:29 GMT
I always liked the idea of the Kandyman, but felt the design wasn't executed that well. Like, if the Kandyman was attempted in modern Who, it would look a lot better. That said, I don't think a story like The Happiness Patrol would be made now anyway.
He sounds good in the trailer though.
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Post by bobod on Jan 10, 2018 17:09:13 GMT
I don't know how that costume COULD look any better. It's one of Doctor Who design's greatest works. It would look much the same in the New Series.
That said, I also like the take in the character in the book so the BF stuff sounds interesting.
I'm not a huge sci-fi fan or epic battle story fan so anything that's sounds FUN works for me as an addition to the McGanns.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 18:36:09 GMT
I've enjoyed reading this Kandyman thread (as it has become) even if I don't agree with the praise of him! I was starting to think I'd stepped in to some sort of parallel universe, the Kandyman getting praised? Whatever next. If people tolerate this sort of revisionism the next thing we'll have is people saying they enjoy Adric as a companion in Fifth Doctor Main Range stories!  Of course on audio the character is just a name and a squeaky voice, so in this new Eighth Doctor box set - minus the silly panto costume - it's possible that the Kandyman could be another character to be redeemed by Big Finish on audio. So while the Kandyman wouldn't have been my first choice of an Eighth Doctor villain it's certainly an interesting idea to bring him back. |
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Post by barnabaslives on Jan 10, 2018 18:50:21 GMT
And then came 'The Happiness Patrol'. For the first time in the classic era I actually didn't watch the rest of the season and very nearly gave up 'Doctor Who' completely with unhappiness at the direction it was going. And I wasn't the only one. The irony is that (presumably thanks to stories like this in the previous two years), by the start of season 26 audiences for 'Doctor Who' were at their lowest ever, so the big improvement of the final season came too late to save it because people simply weren't watching any more. The much-discussed return of the Brig. tempted me back for 'Battlefield' so I was there to enjoy season 26 before the end; not all perfect but some of it came very close. But classic 'Doctor Who' was still brought down as we all now know and I still believe that those two seasons provided if not the reason, at least the perfect excuse. (Having said all that, I have considerable faith that BF can make any element from the show work on audio. Maybe even that one!) That's pretty close to my experience. There were some excellent stories all throughout the Seventh Doctor's era, and I didn't let cringing at Kandyman discourage me from further watching - but I pretty much think of him as THE Harbinger of The Wilderness Years, as Happiness Patrol really did seem to sort of signal the beginning of the end of the series in spite of some remarkable efforts . At the time I think I'd been watching regularly for at least 12 years, and Doctor Who was one of the few things that I really liked that was left standing by that point. I have no doubt that Big Finish can make a great story with him anyway - I also have no doubt they could shoot my favorite kitten out of a cannon and land it safely on a high wire 500 feet in the air without a safety net, but somehow I'd kinda sorta rather they didn't.  Perhaps we of The Resistance are outvoted though, so whatever - as long as you kids remember to brush thoroughly afterwards.  |
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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 10, 2018 19:10:39 GMT
This is now on my preorder list. As I said elsewhere the Kandyman (of the novelisation) is seriously creepy so if he's anything like that... Bring it on!
Cheers
Tony
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Post by Ela on Jan 10, 2018 19:15:34 GMT
On mine, as well. But it would have been anyway. Eighth Doctor, woo!  |
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Post by escalus5 on Jan 10, 2018 19:45:30 GMT
I always liked the idea of the Kandyman, but felt the design wasn't executed that well. Like, if the Kandyman was attempted in modern Who, it would look a lot better. It would also be soulless and boring. I have little doubt that the New Series crew would find some way to suck the life out of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 20:02:22 GMT
I always liked the idea of the Kandyman, but felt the design wasn't executed that well. Like, if the Kandyman was attempted in modern Who, it would look a lot better. It would also be soulless and boring. I have little doubt that the New Series crew would find some way to suck the life out of it. Why would they? |
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Post by SG. on Jan 10, 2018 20:22:05 GMT
I always liked the idea of the Kandyman, but felt the design wasn't executed that well. Like, if the Kandyman was attempted in modern Who, it would look a lot better. It would also be soulless and boring. I have little doubt that the New Series crew would find some way to suck the life out of it. That sounds like the opposite of the Happiness Patrol. |
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Post by bobod on Jan 10, 2018 23:51:26 GMT
When it comes to people who suck the life out of Doctor Who these days, it ain't the people who make the show that first come to mind...
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 11, 2018 12:25:33 GMT
In the bblack and white pics and drawings people have posted he looks freaky. Here though he looks like he's saying
"I'm getting really tired of your s**t Margaret"
Haha! To be fair to the man of Kandy, I think if you took a picture of virtually any Doctor Who monster waiting for his cue, or in rehearsels (as this pic seems to be), it wouldn't be particularly flattering. I'm not saying he wasn't a controversial looking fellow, but he usually looks more dynamic than this. Poor old Kandy flower - he looks positively wilted That is true, its the way his head is hung |
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Post by aztec on Jan 11, 2018 15:37:38 GMT
On mine, as well. But it would have been anyway. Eighth Doctor, woo! Me when I see a new 8th Doctor audio announced: |
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Post by aztec on Jan 11, 2018 16:04:56 GMT
When it comes to people who suck the life out of Doctor Who these days, it ain't the people who make the show that first come to mind... Surprised there hasn't been a race of sentient hoovers anywhere in Who yet, Moffat made us terrified of statues, clockwork and bedsheets perhaps he could come up with a BF script and do the same for cleaning equipment... |
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Post by Ela on Jan 11, 2018 16:45:50 GMT
On mine, as well. But it would have been anyway. Eighth Doctor, woo! Me when I see a new 8th Doctor audio announced: Word. |
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Post by escalus5 on Jan 12, 2018 1:49:47 GMT
When it comes to people who suck the life out of Doctor Who these days, it ain't the people who make the show that first come to mind... Surprised there hasn't been a race of sentient hoovers anywhere in Who yet, Moffat made us terrified of statues, clockwork and bedsheets perhaps he could come up with a BF script and do the same for cleaning equipment... I would be open to that just to see Colin Baker mock the whole idea at a convention (his takedown of "Blink" was hilarious). |
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 12, 2018 7:32:27 GMT
I've enjoyed reading this Kandyman thread (as it has become) even if I don't agree with the praise of him! I was starting to think I'd stepped in to some sort of parallel universe, the Kandyman getting praised? Whatever next. If people tolerate this sort of revisionism the next thing we'll have is people saying they enjoy Adric as a companion in Fifth Doctor Main Range stories! Of course on audio the character is just a name and a squeaky voice, so in this new Eighth Doctor box set - minus the silly panto costume - it's possible that the Kandyman could be another character to be redeemed by Big Finish on audio. So while the Kandyman wouldn't have been my first choice of an Eighth Doctor villain it's certainly an interesting idea to bring him back. Just don't say his name 5 times in a mirror. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 10:45:09 GMT
Surprised there hasn't been a race of sentient hoovers anywhere in Who yet, Moffat made us terrified of statues, clockwork and bedsheets perhaps he could come up with a BF script and do the same for cleaning equipment... I would be open to that just to see Colin Baker mock the whole idea at a convention (his takedown of "Blink" was hilarious). What did Colin say, escalus5? |
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Post by constonks on Jan 12, 2018 17:58:59 GMT
I would be open to that just to see Colin Baker mock the whole idea at a convention (his takedown of "Blink" was hilarious). What did Colin say, escalus5? "You don't blink, you wink!" Followed by a very lively demonstration of such. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 18:02:00 GMT
"You don't blink, you wink!" Followed by a very lively demonstration of such. Ha! Thanks for that. Good old Colin |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 12:40:03 GMT
This is now on my preorder list. As I said elsewhere the Kandyman (of the novelisation) is seriously creepy so if he's anything like that... Bring it on! Cheers Tony He always struck me as a very off-kilter riff on Marvin the Paranoid Android with a very detached creator: |
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