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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 12:28:36 GMT
Just finished the interview on the second set and to summarize these sets: they make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside and sometimes that’s all you need. I bough a bottle of Lagavulin 16 am hoping tonight it will have the same effect perhaps Bernice might want a dram too
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Post by fingersmash on Sept 27, 2018 13:24:12 GMT
Good fact: The Grel Invasion of Earth uses the Adventure Is My Name theme. Bad fact BAD FACT
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Post by fingersmash on Sept 27, 2018 14:17:50 GMT
On a brighter note, this set will probably go in the pick me up playlist.
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Post by Ela on Sept 27, 2018 15:16:39 GMT
Well the comments about this on YouTube and Facebook are horrendous. It appears people have come to the conclusion that this is yet another SJW pandering spinoff with “lots of female characters” and a “token black woman” and that BF are running out of ideas. And apparently Benny is some irrelevant character who never made an impact on “whostory” which is why River is better. So that’s what we’re dealing with here. People who run their mouths off without knowing the most basic knowledge of what they’re actually talking about. Just tell them Benny was around long before River was even thought of.
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Post by Ela on Sept 27, 2018 15:18:55 GMT
Good fact: The Grel Invasion of Earth uses the Adventure Is My Name theme. Bad fact BAD FACT Word.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 27, 2018 17:40:15 GMT
So that’s what we’re dealing with here. People who run their mouths off without knowing the most basic knowledge of what they’re actually talking about. The Internet. In a nutshell.
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Post by omega on Sept 27, 2018 23:15:01 GMT
Good fact: The Grel Invasion of Earth uses the Adventure Is My Name theme. Bad fact BAD FACT Bad Fact: You are mistaking a Good Fact for a Bad Fact.
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Post by omega on Sept 27, 2018 23:15:44 GMT
Goddess, the interview discs are krukking marvellous!
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Post by Ela on Sept 28, 2018 1:03:36 GMT
These are big downloads. Taking forever to download...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:55:33 GMT
Goddess, the interview discs are krukking marvellous! Yes wasn’t your usual banter it was actually informative
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Post by omega on Sept 28, 2018 6:29:23 GMT
Goddess, the interview discs are krukking marvellous! Yes wasn’t your usual banter it was actually informative Only a couple of mentions of lunches as well, and one was story specific.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 7:25:08 GMT
the second part interviews are just as good as the first
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 6:40:29 GMT
Have really enjoyed both sets of stories. I think by far the favourite is Every Dark Thought and I cannot wait for more exploration of the Valeyard and Benny.Perhaps with a sprinkling of David Warner’s Doctor. The Valeyard though stands on his own as a character desperate to cling to life.A bit like Beevers master.But correct me if I am wrong he cannot regenerate and with only one life doesn’t that make him more dangerous an adversary than the Master?
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Post by number13 on Sept 30, 2018 0:20:16 GMT
1.3 Irving in Love 'Mills and Boon' time at the Braxiatel Collection for a real-life romantic fiction. I liked the way the story shifts from almost (apparently) a 'love-triangle' story and 'who do we believe' into a monster story. The green-eyed monster? Green everything, more like! Gabrielle Glaister is wonderful guest-starring as Veronica and I think the name of Irving's (ahem) beloved has a double-double meaning. {Spoiler} The name Veronica carries the meaning 'true image' (which she so isn't) and also... I'm new to this period of Benny's life, but I believe there were hints that there might possibly have been / could have been something between her and Brax - or that Brax at least might have wished there was? If so, then how very very Brax that the special 'find' he wants to collect should be called Veronica. Because 'Veronica' is the Latin equivalent of the Greek name... {Spoiler}Bernice. Now is that really creepy, or what?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 6:08:20 GMT
1.3 Irving in Love 'Mills and Boon' time at the Braxiatel Collection for a real-life romantic fiction. I liked the way the story shifts from almost (apparently) a 'love-triangle' story and 'who do we believe' into a monster story. The green-eyed monster? Green everything, more like! Gabrielle Glaister is wonderful guest-starring as Veronica and I think the name of Irving's (ahem) beloved has a double-double meaning. {Spoiler} The name Veronica carries the meaning 'true image' (which she so isn't) and also... I'm new to this period of Benny's life, but I believe there were hints that there might possibly have been / could have been something between her and Brax - or that Brax at least might have wished there was? If so, then how very very Brax that the special 'find' he wants to collect should be called Veronica. Because 'Veronica' is the Latin equivalent of the Greek name... {Spoiler}Bernice. Now is that really creepy, or what?! Gabrielle is excellent in the role and am sure that hopefully she will be back in other ranges.Another top notch addition in acting talents of BF
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 30, 2018 8:31:17 GMT
Finished with this last night. Wow, this was great! I think my favorite story is "Angel of history". What a well written and thought out story that was! And it hit very close to home! I am a scientist myself and it is (again) getting difficult to write and publish what you want and science in general is losing ground in the current climate. We also demonstrate and take to the streets in the "March for Science" but still, we can see that it is starting that people are silenced and afraid. This was not only a story analogue to what happened in dictatorships in the past, but it is also something that can happen (very possibly) again. For me at least I found this story fantastic. In general I have to say that the Benny and Warner Doctor stories are the deepest and most thought provoking stories produced by Big Finish recently. Some are not your typical average adventure story, but they treat new ground and you have to pay attention and think when you listen to them. This is something I really like and appreciate. BUT although I really like "Angel of history", it wont be something I will be listening to very often, because it is a bit depressing and stories like that always tend to affect me mentally. But at least it ends on a very positive note with the Doctor asking Benny to start digging. No matter how bad things get, there is always at least a little grain of hope. Wonderful ending.
And I agree that the interviews at the back are different and much lifelier and interesting than the usual ones.
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Post by number13 on Sept 30, 2018 10:54:18 GMT
2.1 Every Dark ThoughtI loved this twist on the 'Benny as Companion' era with a new "Doctor" she doesn't know... and watching her deducing as curiosity turns to doubt turns to certainty. Perhaps if Benny hadn't been so accustomed to the rather dark and manipulative ways of the Seventh Doctor she might have caught on earlier that this wasn't any Doctor. But it's indicative of how much she (and we) trusts the Doctor absolutely that she goes on finding reasons to explain his behaviour - until he does the one thing that no Doctor would ever do.
Then I really liked her speech apparently riffing on the famous Malcolm Hulke/Terrance Dicks passage describing the Doctor ('never cruel or cowardly' etc.), still to my mind a description never bettered. Oh yes, and I liked the alien living tunnels and big squelchy people-eating gastropods. Urgh!
I wish BF could find more opportunities for Michael Jayston to bring the Valeyard's dark smoothness back to audio; such a great villain and performance.
Top highlight: Benny's priceless description of the Valeyard once she saw through him - 'You're not a proper regeneration - you fell off the back of a lorry!' At the risk of spoiling a great line by explanation (but in case this phrase doesn't travel well), 'fell off the back of a lorry' is British slang for stolen/counterfeit/dodgy goods such as you wouldn't buy from a dubious trader! I couldn't stop laughing, it's very Benny and so true of the Valeyard isn't it?
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Post by eric009 on Oct 1, 2018 6:31:28 GMT
'You're not a proper regeneration - you fell off the back of a lorry! just that line is worth the price of the box set:)
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Post by number13 on Oct 2, 2018 1:12:09 GMT
2.2 Empress of the Drahvins Well that was a surprise! I never expected a Drahvin story to be this much fun - I mean, Maaga in 'Galaxy 4' was hardly a bundle of laughs, was she? So the mention of 'revolution' had me expecting an equally serious sequel to that story, probably involving Drahvin 'men's lib' (to use inverted Sixties idiom, and boy, do those guys need liberating!) But no! I'd forgotten that the 'non-interference' rule of sci-fi also applies to BF - they can't change TV continuity, not one line! But they could give us a revolutionary prequel to 'Galaxy 4' and that's what we got, mixed in equal measure with obvious and fun riffs on 'The Aztecs' in a sort of reverse parallel and with a tone of light adventure.
Unlike Barbara in old Mexico, Ruth doesn't want to change the local society (ultra-sexist though it is) - the whole 'Empress' thing has gone to her head (adoring subjects, gold four-poster, foot massages on demand, choice of 'cute' consort, etc. ) and she never realises the High Priestess ("of Sacrifice" ) is setting her up to be a "Perfect Victim" at the big wedding ceremony to keep the people happy - and controlled - in their beliefs. So it's up to Benny to break into the tomb where the ship is hidden (a proper booby-trapped pyramid, loved it! and a spaceship this time rather than THE Ship, of course) and use it to pull off A Daring Rescue at the eleventh hour. Oh, and to accidentally overthrow the Drahvin elite by revealing that the High Priestess had been concealing such a secret and using it to manipulate the people with a phantom enemy. And err... also accidentally handing the socially unreconstructed Drahvins a whole lot of space hardware, which will allow them to break through the atmospheric ceiling and spread out into Galaxy 4 and beyond, before their morality has advanced to catch up with their new technology... You might say - "Whoops!" A fun story with a timey-wimey twist to end and well played up in that spirit by all involved! If I may give my opinion, as a mere man, I thoroughly enjoyed it!
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Post by number13 on Oct 3, 2018 0:19:30 GMT
2.3 The Angel of History
The depth, seriousness and intensity of this final story in the set came as a shock; the sleeve notes gave no hint of the real direction of the story and the impact was considerable.
I thought it was exceptional drama by Una McCormack, with an equally exceptional central performance from Lisa Bowerman as Annis/Bernice and a beautifully judged, subdued but supportive Doctor from David Warner.
I'm hesitant about writing more, because I know the effect listening to this had on me and I cannot imagine how it felt for our forum friends with close ties to the real history it clearly parallels.
Presumably you've heard the story if you're reading this, so I needn't explain. If you haven't, this may be rather elliptical because I would not want the story's impact to be dulled by anything I write. {Spoiler} Annis and Bernice used a 'subjectivity recorder' to record and receive actual lived, felt experiences from Annis' personal history - allowing Benny to 'walk a mile in another person's shoes', as the saying goes. But as the Doctor says, even he can't undo History. All he and Benny can do now is to dig, to uncover that history and tell it so it is never, ever forgotten or allowed to be repeated.
To some degree this audio is a 'subjectivity recorder' on playback; it made me think, and cry a little, and feel angry - again, in a positive way.
This story seems (sadly) both highly relevant and timely, and all credit to Big Finish for telling it.
(Please excuse me if I didn't put any of that in quite the right way.)
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