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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 23:12:06 GMT
Guys: we shouldn't be looking at it if it hasn't been officially released. Not up for judgement. I don't see why not. It's something for discussion, 'official' or not. No, it really isn't. It's incredibly invasive.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 16, 2018 23:15:11 GMT
I don't see why not. It's something for discussion, 'official' or not. No, it really isn't. It's incredibly invasive. Invasive to who exactly?
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Mar 16, 2018 23:17:32 GMT
No, it really isn't. It's incredibly invasive. Invasive to who exactly? It’s not like people have hacked into the website and pulled the cover out of their files or some rubbish like that. It was leaked on twitter almost as soon as the announcement went up. In fact, most people had seen it before they even knew it hadn’t been officially revealed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 23:18:33 GMT
No, it really isn't. It's incredibly invasive. Invasive to who exactly? To Big Finish. It's NOT a final work, it was NOT made for distribution and should NOT be up for discussion. People went nosing around for this and they shouldn't of and given the time Big Finish has given this forum, it's incredibly disrespectful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 23:20:32 GMT
It’s not like people have hacked into the website and pulled the cover out of their files or some rubbish like that. It was leaked on twitter almost as soon as the announcement went up. In fact, most people had seen it before they even knew it hadn’t been officially revealed. Ah, I didn't know that. Accidently revealed by Big Finish staff or someone else, though?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 16, 2018 23:23:04 GMT
To Big Finish. It's NOT a final work, it was NOT made for distribution and should NOT be up for discussion. People went nosing around for this and they shouldn't of and given the time Big Finish has given this forum, it's incredibly disrespectful. Well, then we disagree. And last time I checked, outside of subjects to discus, Big Finish hasn’t given us anything. We purchase Big Finish. We support them. And this comes from someone who loves BF and spends way more money on them than I should. They are a business and sometimes things leak. Once it hits the web, it is out there and fair game to discus.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 23:35:21 GMT
I don't see why not. It's something for discussion, 'official' or not. No, it really isn't. It's incredibly invasive. With respect, I really don't see that at all. If it does end up being the official cover, then fair enough. If not, then we'll probably discuss the official cover when it is released. This is a Big Finish forum, I can't see that some harmless speculation and courteous discussion can be seen as invasive in any way at all. In fact, there's probably been more discussion about you feeling we shouldn't be discussing it, than discussion about the cover itself. Or something.
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Post by nudge on Mar 17, 2018 9:00:22 GMT
Part of a bundle with the Jenny release but no discount for buying as a bundle? What's the point in that? The only thing it saves you is a few clicks on their website, so it's a pretty pointless 'bundle'.
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Post by nudge on Mar 17, 2018 9:22:28 GMT
Part of a bundle with the Jenny release but no discount for buying as a bundle? What's the point in that? Big price increase on release though £12 more on CD £10 more on DL
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It's the same price increases on release as Jenny. To me £30 download and £35 for a CD of either release is unreasonable, if Big Finish want to grow their number of customers they should be looking at reducing their costs, especially for downloads. In comparison what would people rather buy, Jenny, Lady Christina or DW The Complete series 10 on either DVD or Blu-ray --> www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Complete-10-DVD/dp/B076CZQS3V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521277941&sr=8-1&keywords=doctor+who+complete+series
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 9:37:22 GMT
It's original content, though - not a release of a TV series. I think Big Finish's international pricing is pretty fair.
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Post by nudge on Mar 17, 2018 9:52:09 GMT
It's original content, though - not a release of a TV series. I think Big Finish's international pricing is pretty fair. I agree it's original content, but look on this you have £30 in your pocket to spend on entertainment for the month there are many other better value alternative options to choose from. I'm in the UK so buy in £, you said that BF's international pricing is pretty fair so how do overseas customers pay for items, in US$? Does the £/$ exchange rate impact on pricing?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 10:00:49 GMT
It's original content, though - not a release of a TV series. I think Big Finish's international pricing is pretty fair. I agree it's original content, but look on this you have £30 in your pocket to spend on entertainment for the month there are many other better value alternative options to choose from. I'm in the UK so buy in £, you said that BF's international pricing is pretty fair so how do overseas customers pay for items, in US$? Does the £/$ exchange rate impact on pricing? Prices are standardised across the ranges internationally. A UK customer pays £30 for Jenny at full price post-release date price, as an Australian customer I pay $AU30 and in other countries, they pay the equavilent. Honestly, for me, that's fair given it's original content in a smaller market then others. And yes, there are alterantives, but everything Big Finish does is high quality and they have to meet costs of production.
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Post by nudge on Mar 17, 2018 10:41:51 GMT
I agree it's original content, but look on this you have £30 in your pocket to spend on entertainment for the month there are many other better value alternative options to choose from. I'm in the UK so buy in £, you said that BF's international pricing is pretty fair so how do overseas customers pay for items, in US$? Does the £/$ exchange rate impact on pricing? Prices are standardised across the ranges internationally. A UK customer pays £30 for Jenny at full price post-release date price, as an Australian customer I pay $AU30 and in other countries, they pay the equavilent. Honestly, for me, that's fair given it's original content in a smaller market then others. And yes, there are alterantives, but everything Big Finish does is high quality and they have to meet costs of production. No wonder you're happy with the pricing - wish I could buy downloads using Australian$. Seems Big Finish's approach to pricing is overly simplistic. So if a customer in the US spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £21.51 And someone in Australia spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £16.60 So why is it fair that BF are happy to accept selling a download to an Australian customer for £16.60 when they expect a UK citizen to pay £30? I can't think of any other UK business that has this same pricing model. If a download is £30 surely BF's profitability should be the same regardless of where the customer is located so charge $41.83 US / $54.22 Aus. BF is very good with their creativity, but think they need someone to better steer them commercially as their business expands.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 10:52:10 GMT
Prices are standardised across the ranges internationally. A UK customer pays £30 for Jenny at full price post-release date price, as an Australian customer I pay $AU30 and in other countries, they pay the equavilent. Honestly, for me, that's fair given it's original content in a smaller market then others. And yes, there are alterantives, but everything Big Finish does is high quality and they have to meet costs of production. No wonder you're happy with the pricing - wish I could buy downloads using Australian$. Seems Big Finish's approach to pricing is overly simplistic. So if a customer in the US spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £21.51 And someone in Australia spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £16.60 So why is it fair that BF are happy to accept selling a download to an Australian customer for £16.60 when they expect a UK citizen to pay £30? I can't think of any other UK business that has this same pricing model. If a download is £30 surely BF's profitability should be the same regardless of where the customer is located so charge $41.83 US / $54.22 Aus. BF is very good with their creativity, but think they need someone to better steer them commercially as their business expands. I don't think it would be, because this is an audio drama. It's NOT a very well-known and niche format and what is known of it is vastly outdated. Look, I understand your frustration, but honestly, I think this serves everyone better and everyone really does win. I don't think Big Finish took this on lightly, either. I remember the prices were implemented during a time when financial markets worldwide were NOT doing well.
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 17, 2018 13:07:31 GMT
I agree it's original content, but look on this you have £30 in your pocket to spend on entertainment for the month there are many other better value alternative options to choose from. I'm in the UK so buy in £, you said that BF's international pricing is pretty fair so how do overseas customers pay for items, in US$? Does the £/$ exchange rate impact on pricing? Prices are standardised across the ranges internationally. A UK customer pays £30 for Jenny at full price post-release date price, as an Australian customer I pay $AU30 and in other countries, they pay the equavilent. Honestly, for me, that's fair given it's original content in a smaller market then others. And yes, there are alterantives, but everything Big Finish does is high quality and they have to meet costs of production. Prices are standardised across the ranges internationally. A UK customer pays £30 for Jenny at full price post-release date price, as an Australian customer I pay $AU30 and in other countries, they pay the equavilent. Honestly, for me, that's fair given it's original content in a smaller market then others. And yes, there are alterantives, but everything Big Finish does is high quality and they have to meet costs of production. No wonder you're happy with the pricing - wish I could buy downloads using Australian$. Seems Big Finish's approach to pricing is overly simplistic. So if a customer in the US spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £21.51 And someone in Australia spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £16.60 So why is it fair that BF are happy to accept selling a download to an Australian customer for £16.60 when they expect a UK citizen to pay £30? I can't think of any other UK business that has this same pricing model. If a download is £30 surely BF's profitability should be the same regardless of where the customer is located so charge $41.83 US / $54.22 Aus. BF is very good with their creativity, but think they need someone to better steer them commercially as their business expands. The ratio from £ to AU$ on pricing only works for downloads. At the moment the current Australian pricing for Jenny - The Doctor's Daughter stands at $20 (£20) on download and $41.57 (£25) on CD. I believe Big Finish make up for the amount they 'lose' on downloads through the fact the people buying the CDs overseas not only pay the full price for the CD in £ but also pay for shipping and the (ever slightly frustrating) per order charge. Either way, if you're going for downloads you're still getting more bang for your buck over CDs (Doesn't stop me though! )
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Post by nudge on Mar 17, 2018 15:45:18 GMT
I don't understand the need for the 'per order' charge, seems a fudge, a sticking plaster rather than addressing the issue. They just need to increase prices for overseas customers, but expect they are reticent to do so due to expected customer back-lash. If only I could preorder using Au$ I'd even get Lady Christina, a series I'm ambivalent about, as it would only cost £11.07.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 4:14:29 GMT
I don't understand the need for the 'per order' charge, seems a fudge, a sticking plaster rather than addressing the issue. They just need to increase prices for overseas customers, but expect they are reticent to do so due to expected customer back-lash. If only I could preorder using Au$ I'd even get Lady Christina, a series I'm ambivalent about, as it would only cost £11.07. Also: at the time, piracy was hitting Big Finish in a BIG way and it still hits the original series releases. If they went back to the old system, there's sadly an old internet adage which would be implemented. I get that your frustrated and I was tired and didn't reliase you were a UK customer, but if I was British, I'd accept it if I wanted Big Finish to stick around and tell their stories.
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Post by aztec on Mar 18, 2018 8:05:40 GMT
No wonder you're happy with the pricing - wish I could buy downloads using Australian$. Seems Big Finish's approach to pricing is overly simplistic. So if a customer in the US spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £21.51 And someone in Australia spends $30, BF get the equivalent of £16.60 So why is it fair that BF are happy to accept selling a download to an Australian customer for £16.60 when they expect a UK citizen to pay £30? I can't think of any other UK business that has this same pricing model. If a download is £30 surely BF's profitability should be the same regardless of where the customer is located so charge $41.83 US / $54.22 Aus. BF is very good with their creativity, but think they need someone to better steer them commercially as their business expands. I don't think it would be, because this is an audio drama. It's NOT a very well-known and niche format and what is known of it is vastly outdated. Look, I understand your frustration, but honestly, I think this serves everyone better and everyone really does win. I don't think Big Finish took this on lightly, either. I remember the prices were implemented during a time when financial markets worldwide were NOT doing well. In fairness Big Finish now has access to the New Who and Torchwood licenses and has vastly expanded as a company in the last decade, I had never heard of them until The Night Of The Doctor and I'm seeing more and more interest in them, and audio dramas on other fan sites in recent years, however I do understand some of the issues raised about pricing, audio drama is a niche format yes and won't appeal to everyone, but BF has been going for 20 years (and will hopefully go for another 20+) and its core fanbase won't be around forever, New Who fans tend to be younger with less disposable income and exposure to audio drama, perhaps lowering the prices on some of the more popular ranges though lowering profits in the short run could bring in more money in the long run, so many times I've seen fans write off BF when learning it was audio drama or because of the cost, I think more people would be willing to take a gamble if the stories were slightly cheaper. I know I'd certainly buy more stories if the prices were reduced...
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Post by aztec on Mar 18, 2018 8:08:23 GMT
As for this spinoff...well I personally have no interest and I'm surprised BF even considered it, I wasn't a huge fan of Jenny but at least that story was left open ended and fans have been clamouring to see the character return...Lady Christina though? Is there actually going to be an interesting story there? or is this just a gap in the story being filled because the Doctors are busy on other projects...
That's not to say I don't wish BF well with this range, and I hope others get some enjoyment out of it.
I'm still holding out for a Nardole and his invisible friends boxset myself...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 8:16:26 GMT
I don't think it would be, because this is an audio drama. It's NOT a very well-known and niche format and what is known of it is vastly outdated. Look, I understand your frustration, but honestly, I think this serves everyone better and everyone really does win. I don't think Big Finish took this on lightly, either. I remember the prices were implemented during a time when financial markets worldwide were NOT doing well. In fairness Big Finish now has access to the New Who and Torchwood licenses and has vastly expanded as a company in the last decade, I had never heard of them until The Night Of The Doctor and I'm seeing more and more interest in them, and audio dramas on other fan sites in recent years, however I do understand some of the issues raised about pricing, audio drama is a niche format yes and won't appeal to everyone, but BF has been going for 20 years (and will hopefully go for another 20+) and its core fanbase won't be around forever, New Who fans tend to be younger with less disposable income and exposure to audio drama, perhaps lowering the prices on some of the more popular ranges though lowering profits in the short run could bring in more money in the long run, so many times I've seen fans write off BF when learning it was audio drama or because of the cost, I think more people would be willing to take a gamble if the stories were slightly cheaper. I know I'd certainly buy more stories if the prices were reduced... The problem is: that there NOT a big company. They can't afford to make the discounts and take the losses bigger companies can. The New Series releases do well, but piracy still hits everything else.
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