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Post by dasmaniac on May 5, 2018 19:03:23 GMT
Does it? Isn't there already a BF continuity whereby he escapes in his wormy form as before and nicks another body? You’re thinking of the Companion Chronicles story Mastermind. I’m curious how this will fit as well. Mastermind takes place at some point after the TV Movie. The Master is at that point no longer in Bruce's body.
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Post by sherlock on May 5, 2018 19:06:42 GMT
This set finally confirms that the Master did retain the form of Bruce after he escaped. It had long been assumed that he escaped in his "husk" form. Or alternatively the Master could be somehow taken from during the events of the Movie for this story and then put back to eventually fall into the Eye.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 19:13:58 GMT
This set finally confirms that the Master did retain the form of Bruce after he escaped. It had long been assumed that he escaped in his "husk" form. Or alternatively the Master could be somehow taken from during the events of the Movie for this story and then put back to eventually fall into the Eye. Urgh, I find that approach a bit silly. I'd rather they didn't use him then resort to that. Very unsatisfying for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 19:29:08 GMT
I imagine BF will want to leave the door open to future stories with Eric, if possible...
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Post by whosonfirst on May 5, 2018 21:53:31 GMT
I'd find it a bit disappointing if they did contradict 'Mastermind' and 'The Centenarian' stories that had him escape as, basically, the Deathworm in the form a vapourous gas, possessing innocent victims over the course of a century. Id like to think they'll be smarter than that though, when it comes to their own continuity. One thing that always struck me about 'Mastermind' is that the Master was determined to not alert the Doctor or the Time Lords to fact he was still alive. Could they have simply ressurected him in the body of Bruce, unaware of his body-hopping adventures, eventually offering him that same deal they made when he was in Tremas' body? Let's just say this isn't the first time I've wondered if the entire story the Master tells Ruth & Charlie in Mastermind is purely intended to mess with their heads and doesn't have much truth in it at all. Twould be just like him.
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Post by CookieMaster on May 5, 2018 21:56:06 GMT
It would be very hard to have further adventures with his Master (which I hope for), but having River slip in during the events of the TVM might be how they do it this time. River does like to borrow the Doctor's TARDIS when it's left unnattended, it just so happens a bloke who calls himself Bruce was having a nose around when she took off, perhaps..
Thinking about it, how often could they get Eric Roberts to do audios? Further adventures with Charlie and Ruth come around only once in a blue moon, due to many factors, so having Brucie pop up might be even rarer.
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Post by CookieMaster on May 5, 2018 21:58:38 GMT
I'd find it a bit disappointing if they did contradict 'Mastermind' and 'The Centenarian' stories that had him escape as, basically, the Deathworm in the form a vapourous gas, possessing innocent victims over the course of a century. Id like to think they'll be smarter than that though, when it comes to their own continuity. One thing that always struck me about 'Mastermind' is that the Master was determined to not alert the Doctor or the Time Lords to fact he was still alive. Could they have simply ressurected him in the body of Bruce, unaware of his body-hopping adventures, eventually offering him that same deal they made when he was in Tremas' body? Let's just say this isn't the first time I've wondered if the entire story the Master tells Ruth & Charlie in Mastermind is purely intended to mess with their heads and doesn't have much truth in it at all. Twould be just like him. I would be a bit gutted, but you are right, it is something he'd gladly do!
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Post by mbt66 on May 6, 2018 9:48:45 GMT
Although this is the first announcement regarding Missy I wonder if we might hear her, perhaps in her own boxset, before River 5 is released?
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Post by mbt66 on May 6, 2018 10:10:49 GMT
Outlandish theory number 1
Seeing the Power of Three cube on the cover.
According to Wikia Doctor Who the Shakri have an affinity for the number seven and are the pest controllers of the universe...
...is The Master the ultimate pest of the universe?
So perhaps they have sent seven cubes to attack seven incarnations of the Master. River encounters Missy and for some reason agrees to help her. So whilst Missy goes to assist three of her former incarnations (referenced but unheard - perhaps Delgado, Ainley & Simms), River tries to help the other three - Beavers, Roberts & Jacobi.
So River would be trying to help each Master, but they don’t know it. Plus Missy will have an ulterior motive and plan.
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Post by mbt66 on May 6, 2018 10:11:54 GMT
Outlandish theory number 2
Missy has River at her mercy, but cannot bring herself to kill her. Enraged by her own actions, or in this case inactions, Missy sets out to recapture her Essence of Evil.
And where better to find it than from her own past selfs.
River sets off in hot pursuit of Missy to stop her and perhaps convince her that although different she is already a better evil genius Master than she has ever been!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 10:14:20 GMT
Although this is the first announcement regarding Missy I wonder if we might hear her, perhaps in her own boxset, before River 5 is released? Eh, the main story between her and The Doctor is done and while I haven't read it, The Missy Chronicles has kind of covered that itch. Better to have her clash with another titan.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 6, 2018 12:25:50 GMT
Maybe the Roberts Master story explains how he got in 8's Tardis without a Key
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Post by mbt66 on May 6, 2018 12:38:57 GMT
Although this is the first announcement regarding Missy I wonder if we might hear her, perhaps in her own boxset, before River 5 is released? Eh, the main story between her and The Doctor is done and while I haven't read it, The Missy Chronicles has kind of covered that itch. Better to have her clash with another titan. I never said she needed to met a previous Doctor. I wouldn’t expect Missy to take the same route as River did with her boxsets. I am expecting something akin to the War Master set where the Doctor is acknowledged, but does not feature.
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Post by ollychops on May 6, 2018 13:02:45 GMT
I’d love a Missy boxset, maybe set after The Magician’s Apprentice/The Witch’s Familiar? Or maybe even earlier, before she set up the 3W plan, since IIRC, there’s an unspecified amount of time before then, so who knows what she could have been up to?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 15:53:35 GMT
Eh, the main story between her and The Doctor is done and while I haven't read it, The Missy Chronicles has kind of covered that itch. Better to have her clash with another titan. I never said she needed to met a previous Doctor. I wouldn’t expect Missy to take the same route as River did with her boxsets. I am expecting something akin to the War Master set where the Doctor is acknowledged, but does not feature. Yes, a War Master style box set with Missy would be fantastic!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 16:10:26 GMT
If there are more Jacobi sets in the pipeline, it might be a bit odd to be having two different Master spin-off series running concurrently, though.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 6, 2018 16:18:41 GMT
If there are more Jacobi sets in the pipeline, it might be a bit odd to be having two different Master spin-off series running concurrently, though. I don't see a problem with two series featuring different Masters running concurrently. I'd buy both.
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Post by CookieMaster on May 6, 2018 16:19:31 GMT
Unless they just have a single range for the Master and alternate the incarnation? A bit like the main range, but in box set form.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 6, 2018 16:37:22 GMT
Unless they just have a single range for the Master and alternate the incarnation? A bit like the main range, but in box set form. I'd be fine with that as well. Big Finish now has 6 versions of the Master running around. As I've mentioned before, I'd be thrilled with an anthology style series of box sets featuring 3 or 4 versions a set.
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Post by icecreamdf on May 6, 2018 17:10:26 GMT
Maybe the Roberts Master story explains how he got in 8's Tardis without a Key That could work. While the Master is trying to figure out how to get into the TARDIS, he sees River show up and enter it with her key. He sneaks in after her, and River pilots the TARDIS somewhere else in space and time. The Master and River have an adventure elsewhere in the universe, and in the end the Master leaves River stranded and takes the TARDIS back to San Francisco so that he can steal the Doctor’s body.
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