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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 7:59:43 GMT
Well finished series 1 and I must say I really did enjoy it. The stories were pretty much stand alone and if they ever do more then the bird backstory just needs to be mined for the terror aspect alone I wished it had been longer. What a great solid cast and adding Carolyn Seymour to the mix made it even stronger.Am looking forward to the rematch in the next series. if I had started with the NEW COUNTERMEASURES I would not have been disappointed at all.I have listened to Threshold only from the original box set and it was a very good creepy story. I will be interested in my reaction to the Great intelligence something I think TV who ruined.Knowing how it is maligned in the forums.But I will wait and see. If they do make more of the series even as a special then the bird threat is a definite mine.Further threats from Carolyn and even what happened to the TEAM after NEW did they surrender to UNIT to Torchwood? Or end up stranded on some alien world? there are tonnes of stories to be told with such great actors well it is time for series 2 ...isn’t it nice to have a day off?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 11:31:20 GMT
Series 2 on the go if this is the standard of storytelling that gets cancelled then ....Class must be exceptional(but not one am likely to buy).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 16:55:52 GMT
Series two of NCM was as enjoyable as the first and i enjoyed the Intelligence story. It will be interesting to hear it a second time. I have a fondness for the Intelligence as The Abominable Snowmen was the second target book i ever read as a kid. But all in all a thoroughly enjoyable second series.and am looking forward to going back in time with the Countermeasures team in the first four box sets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 17:57:39 GMT
Listening to NCM. Series 1 if these are the poor scripts am in for a treat at what most class as the better rated. No the first New Counter Measures box set is pretty enjoyable. It is a slightly different thing from the previous series but still fun. I think the people who have problems with NCM have problems with the second set. It is certainly the case for me but as always, your mileage may vary. Yep NCM 1 is good but the 2nd season is awful, such a drop in quality in the writing. The cast still give it their best brave fellows all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 18:00:41 GMT
No the first New Counter Measures box set is pretty enjoyable. It is a slightly different thing from the previous series but still fun. I think the people who have problems with NCM have problems with the second set. It is certainly the case for me but as always, your mileage may vary. Yep NCM 1 is good but the 2nd season is awful, such a drop in quality in the writing. The cast still give it their best brave fellows all. They do ....and i found it enjoyable when i listen to the first four box sets i will see . Still better than most of the tv series Who
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Post by izp1 on Aug 29, 2018 18:04:40 GMT
Presumably "The Hollow King", the story which was recorded for last year's set but bumped out of it by the Intelligence story, is going to be lost to time forever? Possibly, but and this is purely speculation. I could see it being released as a one off, maybe as a download only story. it doesn't make sense to sit on something.
It may not sell a lot, but wouldn't it be better to release it, and get back as much as they could on it, rather than just write it off.
That's how I see it anyway.
I can see that *might* happen one day down the line, but really it'd need to be at a time that NC-M had enough buyers to justify paying a sound designer and musician to work on it and right now I've no idea when that might be. Sadly, if it's unlikely to make that outlay back within a decent time BF is probably wiser concentrating on titles that will. Bear in mind if it *did* get a release it wouldn't offer closure for the series because it was written to include hints of a new ongoing arc originally intended to build through series 2 and 3, and those hints won't be getting be paid off now. In my ideal world it'd be released one day and do enough business to justify some kind of continuation of that story strand (I'm going to miss Counter-Measures as much as any other listener) but I think that's massively unlikely now. It was really just down to the way the stars aligned that the story got recorded at all. It'd been deferred to series 3 in the June but then got reactivated at short notice for the July recordings as a back up which wasn't ultimately needed, so you're only missing it through fluke. It could easily never have got to studio and you'd never have known it was planned. If we're all still around waiting I'll demand it gets animated for Blu-ray like Shada in 36 years time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 18:05:05 GMT
Yep NCM 1 is good but the 2nd season is awful, such a drop in quality in the writing. The cast still give it their best brave fellows all. Still better than most of the tv series Who No.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 18:13:07 GMT
Possibly, but and this is purely speculation. I could see it being released as a one off, maybe as a download only story. it doesn't make sense to sit on something.
It may not sell a lot, but wouldn't it be better to release it, and get back as much as they could on it, rather than just write it off.
That's how I see it anyway.
I can see that *might* happen one day down the line, but really it'd need to be at a time that NC-M had enough buyers to justify paying a sound designer and musician to work on it and right now I've no idea when that might be. Sadly, if it's unlikely to make that outlay back within a decent time BF is probably wiser concentrating on titles that will. Bear in mind if it *did* get a release it wouldn't offer closure for the series because it was written to include hints of a new ongoing arc originally intended to build through series 2 and 3, and those hints won't be getting be paid off now. In my ideal world it'd be released one day and do enough business to justify some kind of continuation of that story strand (I'm going to miss Counter-Measures as much as any other listener) but I think that's massively unlikely now. It was really just down to the way the stars aligned that the story got recorded at all. It'd been deferred to series 3 in the June but then got reactivated at short notice for the July recordings as a back up which wasn't ultimately needed, so you're only missing it through fluke. It could easily never have got to studio and you'd never have known it was planned. If we're all still around waiting I'll demand it gets animated for Blu-ray like Shada in 36 years time. Am new to the range and peoples listening tastes change.I have enjoyed the range so far very much,pity it came too late.But with a cracking core team of actors and a strong central premise i have enjoyed it a lot more than other ranges. I will put in a prayer to the big audiodramatist in the sky that you get to fulfill the story arc that was planned lol😁
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Post by mark687 on Sept 1, 2018 23:27:15 GMT
From this weeks Podcast
"The Series is definitely over, however an Ep (The Hollow King?) was recorded but not released, however further info is currently filed under "Just imagine and sworn to Secretes"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 8:00:32 GMT
From this weeks Podcast "The Series is definitely over, however an Ep (The Hollow King?) was recorded but not released, however further info is currently filed under "Just imagine and sworn to Secretes" Regards mark687 Izp1 basically said that in his post above but as they say NEVER SAY NEVER
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Post by ljwilson on Sept 2, 2018 10:56:08 GMT
This will be released as the TNCM Lost Story....DL only, you mark my words!
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Post by mbt66 on Sept 2, 2018 11:09:19 GMT
From this weeks Podcast "The Series is definitely over, however an Ep (The Hollow King?) was recorded but not released, however further info is currently filed under "Just imagine and sworn to Secretes" Regards mark687 I wonder if this could be incorporated into a two hour adventure for UNIT. Perhaps the danger/threat from the Counter Measures story has resurfaced and UNIT call on a en elderly Allison Williams to explain what happened previously and assist with the current situation. So we would hear the modern UNIT adventure in parallel with the old Counter Measures adventure. It would be a nice way to introduce the Counter Measures team to any modern Nu-Who fans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 13:24:21 GMT
I have listened to the New Counter Measures and totally loved it and enjoyed it some episodes stronger than others but all very enjoyable. But then again I do not expect perfection from things.A decent story a decent cast and not universe in jeopardy stories....I prefer companion or cast in jeopardy to oh my gawd the universe is in danger of being wiped out stuff.Counter Measures delivers good story telling with a solid cast who deliver consistently.As for the maligned Intelligence story it’s a good dramatic tale and sequel to Web of Fear totally enjoyed it and better served yet again by Big Finish than the TV show
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 20:38:39 GMT
I must say New Counter Measures has reall grown on me they stand pretty much on their own the stories in the two sets and am a fan now of both the Phoenix Strain and A Gamble with Time. These are enjoyable Box sets but the acting is top grade and the characters really gel in them and i hope they do bring them back in this NEW incarnation there is a lot of mileage left in the Team. And that maligned Great Intelligence story i have heard far far worse in the Main Range. Bring the Team back.
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Post by nottenst on Sept 17, 2018 21:08:58 GMT
Just am listening to some of the BF podcasts and was reminded of the cancellation of Counter Measures (and other series). I am disappointed especially seeing this one go, but not entirely surprised. Big Finish has been producing so much material that it is difficult for anyone to keep up. Some series are not going to sell as well as others and eventually cancellations occur.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 5:40:23 GMT
Just am listening to some of the BF podcasts and was reminded of the cancellation of Counter Measures (and other series). I am disappointed especially seeing this one go, but not entirely surprised. Big Finish has been producing so much material that it is difficult for anyone to keep up. Some series are not going to sell as well as others and eventually cancellations occur. Cannot tell you how much i have enjoyed this series I may be one of the only ones who actually prefer the New Counter Measures to the old ones.Both are equally good series BUT Something tells me we haven’t heard the last of this series.Good box sets never die 😏
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 18, 2018 11:54:48 GMT
Just am listening to some of the BF podcasts and was reminded of the cancellation of Counter Measures (and other series). I am disappointed especially seeing this one go, but not entirely surprised. Big Finish has been producing so much material that it is difficult for anyone to keep up. Some series are not going to sell as well as others and eventually cancellations occur. What were the other ones cancelled? I only know of NCM and The Omega Factor
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Post by Whovitt on Sept 18, 2018 11:56:26 GMT
Just am listening to some of the BF podcasts and was reminded of the cancellation of Counter Measures (and other series). I am disappointed especially seeing this one go, but not entirely surprised. Big Finish has been producing so much material that it is difficult for anyone to keep up. Some series are not going to sell as well as others and eventually cancellations occur. What were the other ones cancelled? I only know of NCM and The Omega Factor I *think* they were the only ones confirmed to be cancelled ("for now"), but they also mentioned that Survivors doesn't get very high sales at the same time, so it's possible they were suggesting an end to that range as well...
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 18, 2018 12:01:59 GMT
What were the other ones cancelled? I only know of NCM and The Omega Factor I *think* they were the only ones confirmed to be cancelled ("for now"), but they also mentioned that Survivors doesn't get very high sales at the same time, so it's possible they were suggesting an end to that range as well... So this latest Survivors boxset could be the last "for now" depending on sales
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 12:03:23 GMT
What were the other ones cancelled? I only know of NCM and The Omega Factor I *think* they were the only ones confirmed to be cancelled ("for now"), but they also mentioned that Survivors doesn't get very high sales at the same time, so it's possible they were suggesting an end to that range as well... Personally I think they are cancelling what gives BF a diverse range they are going to become a Doctor Who only producer at this rate
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