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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 10:49:45 GMT
(Ducks Venusian Chops from number13) but Jon Pertwee. You can constantly see him thinking "This Dialogue or Performer is good or bad, worthy of my effort." When he shares his 1st scene with Delgardo in "Terror" you can almost see him wake up "Hang about this guys good and his gonna steal the show" The fondness most people have for the Era is i'd aruge the interplay between the "UNIT Family" rather than what Pertwee brought to the role himself. Regards mark687 See that’s one of my favourite things about 3. For a long time he’s trapped on earth and he’s clearly very annoyed about it so whenever the brig or jo messes up again and he has to save them or the world, wouldn’t you find it a bit tedious? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 10:54:33 GMT
(Ducks Venusian Chops from number13) but Jon Pertwee. You can constantly see him thinking "This Dialogue or Performer is good or bad, worthy of my effort." When he shares his 1st scene with Delgardo in "Terror" you can almost see him wake up "Hang about this guys good and his gonna steal the show" The fondness most people have for the Era is i'd aruge the interplay between the "UNIT Family" rather than what Pertwee brought to the role himself. Regards mark687 No Venusian chops from me, but I will say that Jon was my 'first' Doctor, and what I loved about his portrayal was his sense of presence. Tom Baker described him as a kind of 'beacon', and he absolutely was. Not everyone could get away with his flamboyant hair and clothing, but he just looked great. Watching him now, he seems a little preachy and somewhat patronising, but he's still got bucket loads of style and somehow gets away with it. He had a great on-screen chemistry with Delgado, as well as his UNIT 'team' and even though time has not been kind to some of his stories, his 'classics' for me (usually involving some insect or arachnid) are still huge fun. |
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Post by number13 on Sept 1, 2018 12:08:06 GMT
I just don't get the appeal of Pertwee, in both his character and his stories. (Ducks Venusian Chops from number13) but Jon Pertwee. I'm not annoyed. Not at all...
{Click for 'The Day They Dissed My Doctor: A Cautionary Tale'} SCENE: The UNIT lab. (The DOCTOR is seated at the bench working at some tiny and complicated electronic device while JO studies the display on a linked readout.) (The BRIGADIER enters.) BRIGADIER: Ah, Doctor, on top of our other problem, we've just had a call from the DU Mods office. Seems that two of their members have vanished without trace. One minute they were posting normally, the next - gone! (The DOCTOR ignores him and carries on tinkering. JO smiles kindly but says nothing.) BRIGADIER: Doctor, do we have to go through this every time? I said... JO (still studying the readout): Reversal complete, Doctor! (A small flash and a puff of smoke emit from the Doctor's device. Surprisingly, he nods in apparent satisfaction and looks up at the BRIGADIER.) THE DOCTOR: Lethbridge-Stewart, it's bad enough running around for UNIT after every stray alien and interplanetary warlord who sets their sights on Earth - and the Master's left-overs from that Atlantis business. I really can't start a missing persons bureau as well, especially when the persons were online avatars. And what's more, online avatars who didn't like me! I dare say neither of them ever really existed! BRIGADIER: Then how did you know...? If you'd only put that contraption down and listen... what IS that contraption by the way? THE DOCTOR: This? It's a temporal trap, linked to the TARDIS dimensional and temporal stabilisers. In theory it can entrap a being and cause total reversal of the polarity of their temporal flow - they would never have existed. Drastic, I grant you, but it's the only way I can think of to stop the Master's creation before it wreaks more havoc. JO: You see, Sir, after the Master created this 'temporal beserker' with the Kronos crystal, it can still attack us again even after we defeat it - if we do - from a Time before we defeat it. With this trap, it would never have been created, so it couldn't. I think?! THE DOCTOR: Top of the class Jo! Was that explanation simple enough for you, my dear fellow(!) BRIGADIER: (With equally heavy irony.) Yes, thank you Miss Grant. I'll leave you to it then Doctor. Odd, I can't remember what it was I came in to see you about. But will it work? Have you tested your trap yet? THE DOCTOR: (Sips from his mug of tea, smiles inscrutably.) Oh yes Brigadier, we've just tested it - twice - haven't we Jo...? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 12:11:41 GMT
I don't think there's a Doctor that was a dud or that I can't bear to watch, however in terms of stories, I believe that 6 and 7 got the shortest shrift when it came to quality stories: they career up and down in quality while all the other doctors seem to have more even runs of good stories. YMMV of course. I would agree with you. McCoy started getting good when the series began to take itself seriously again GhostLight,Greatest Show and Curse of Fenric and to be honest there was nothing wrong with Baker but that bloody costume (used to it now) was the worst idea EVER |
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Post by sherlock on Sept 1, 2018 12:22:56 GMT
McCoy. Just find him the most inconsistent performer of the classic Doctors, sometimes he really nails a scene (usually the quieter ones like the cafe in Remembrance of the Daleks or facing the snipers in The Happiness Patrol) and other times really doesn't (the 'dawn of time' speech in Curse of Fenric where he rattles through it so fast it's barely discernible, any scene where he has to bellow dramatically).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 12:29:35 GMT
McCoy. Just find him the most inconsistent performer of the classic Doctors, sometimes he really nails a scene (usually the quieter ones like the cafe in Remembrance of the Daleks or facing the snipers in The Happiness Patrol) and other times really doesn't (the 'dawn of time' speech in Curse of Fenric where he rattles through it so fast it's barely discernible, any scene where he has to bellow dramatically). Yes Capaldi great actor though he is supposedly gives an awesome speech in THIN ICE that Bill marvels at i still cannot tell you what that speech is and i never rewind lol but it wasn’t awesome enough obviously |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 13:27:41 GMT
McCoy. Just find him the most inconsistent performer of the classic Doctors, sometimes he really nails a scene (usually the quieter ones like the cafe in Remembrance of the Daleks or facing the snipers in The Happiness Patrol) and other times really doesn't (the 'dawn of time' speech in Curse of Fenric where he rattles through it so fast it's barely discernible, any scene where he has to bellow dramatically). McCoy is my favourite classic Doctor and I agree entirely. He can nail both comedy and sinister, manipulative moments really well. Unfortunately, much like most people in real life, he looks like an idiot when he's shouting. I can't tell his continued attempts at playing some scenes angrily are due to directors wanting a 'grand' climactic scene, or if McCoy didn't realise that his range doesn't quite extend that far to be convincing. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 1, 2018 13:56:46 GMT
McCoy. Just find him the most inconsistent performer of the classic Doctors, sometimes he really nails a scene (usually the quieter ones like the cafe in Remembrance of the Daleks or facing the snipers in The Happiness Patrol) and other times really doesn't (the 'dawn of time' speech in Curse of Fenric where he rattles through it so fast it's barely discernible, any scene where he has to bellow dramatically). "Stop! There Will Be No Battle Here" |
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Post by mark687 on Sept 1, 2018 14:06:02 GMT
McCoy. Just find him the most inconsistent performer of the classic Doctors, sometimes he really nails a scene (usually the quieter ones like the cafe in Remembrance of the Daleks or facing the snipers in The Happiness Patrol) and other times really doesn't (the 'dawn of time' speech in Curse of Fenric where he rattles through it so fast it's barely discernible, any scene where he has to bellow dramatically). "Stop! I Command it! There Will Be No Battle Here" Regards
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 1, 2018 14:08:17 GMT
"Stop! I Command it! There Will Be No Battle Here" Regards
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 14:23:10 GMT
(Ducks Venusian Chops from number13) but Jon Pertwee. The fondness most people have for the Era is I'd aruge the interplay between the "UNIT Family" rather than what Pertwee brought to the role himself. Well, I'd argue otherwise, for me Jon Pertwee was a great Doctor.
People can like or dislike Jon Pertwee's performances, but nobody can say he got the show cancelled can they?!!! The same can't be said for McCoy's era! 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 14:47:15 GMT
(Ducks Venusian Chops from number13) but Jon Pertwee. The fondness most people have for the Era is I'd aruge the interplay between the "UNIT Family" rather than what Pertwee brought to the role himself. Well, I'd argue otherwise, for me Jon Pertwee was a great Doctor.
People can like or dislike Jon Pertwee's performances, but nobody can say he got the show cancelled can they?!!! The same can't be said for McCoy's era!
I saw Sylvester (and company) on a panel about a year ago, and he started off an anecdote with "When I killed Doctor Who in the late eighties ..."
I love 'im!
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Post by mark687 on Sept 1, 2018 15:01:57 GMT
(Ducks Venusian Chops from number13) but Jon Pertwee. The fondness most people have for the Era is I'd aruge the interplay between the "UNIT Family" rather than what Pertwee brought to the role himself. Well, I'd argue otherwise, for me Jon Pertwee was a great Doctor.
People can like or dislike Jon Pertwee's performances, but nobody can say he got the show cancelled can they?!!! The same can't be said for McCoy's era!
LOL
No it wasn't down to McCoy The Production Team and the BBC were bored with it.
Your could make the same argument for most of Capaldi's time, once the 50th was done momentum slowed.
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Post by ollychops on Sept 1, 2018 15:32:12 GMT
It's always going to be Five. Even taking Big Finish into account - he has some good stories (especially at BF), but I still don't find his Doctor interesting at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 16:21:13 GMT
People can like or dislike Jon Pertwee's performances, but nobody can say he got the show cancelled can they?!!! The same can't be said for McCoy's era! No it wasn't down to McCoy The Production Team and the BBC were bored with it. Whatever spin people want to put on it, people were switching Doctor Who off and McCoy was the Doctor with the lowest viewing figures of classic-era Doctor Who. Some of it was down to the time slot of course, some of it JNT and the production quality, yes the BBC, and maybe sometimes the pantomime casting too. (In hindsight, on paper some of those stories were good stories just poorly realised.) But when all is said and done, McCoy has to shoulder some of the blame too. I didn't like his portrayal back then and it certainly made me switch over at times, and I was a Doctor Who fan! So I can't imagine I was alone. |
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Post by channing on Sept 1, 2018 16:43:13 GMT
(Ducks Venusian Chops from number13) but Jon Pertwee. The fondness most people have for the Era is I'd aruge the interplay between the "UNIT Family" rather than what Pertwee brought to the role himself. Well, I'd argue otherwise, for me Jon Pertwee was a great Doctor.
People can like or dislike Jon Pertwee's performances, but nobody can say he got the show cancelled can they?!!! The same can't be said for McCoy's era!
I agree Jon Pertwee was brilliant. He did dispatch me and my nestene brethren with style. My tentacled friend would also agree  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 5:03:26 GMT
I don't have one. Casting in the original series and the revival has always been so strong, letting each Doctor be distinct and memorable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 5:19:22 GMT
McCoy. Just find him the most inconsistent performer of the classic Doctors, sometimes he really nails a scene (usually the quieter ones like the cafe in Remembrance of the Daleks or facing the snipers in The Happiness Patrol) and other times really doesn't (the 'dawn of time' speech in Curse of Fenric where he rattles through it so fast it's barely discernible, any scene where he has to bellow dramatically). McCoy is my favourite classic Doctor and I agree entirely. He can nail both comedy and sinister, manipulative moments really well. Unfortunately, much like most people in real life, he looks like an idiot when he's shouting. I can't tell his continued attempts at playing some scenes angrily are due to directors wanting a 'grand' climactic scene, or if McCoy didn't realise that his range doesn't quite extend that far to be convincing. McCoy brought a nice naturalism to The Doctor that was distictivily different from his preddesscors (with his Doctor feeling like a strange man you could meet on the street), which the revival has built on beautifully. I'm more prone to believe the directors might have been fault at walking the line. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 11:13:52 GMT
Pertwee's Doctor. Far too often just written and played as either Quatermass or an ITC action star straight out of Department S. He's often the least interesting part of his own stories. Much of his era is good in spite of him not because of him.
McCoy is erratic and to this day can deliver a line absolutely horribly then be wonderful the next moment. He's got a twinkle and a charm I rarely find in the Third Doctor though so I'd rate him a bit higher than Pertwee.
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Post by mbt66 on Sept 2, 2018 16:25:08 GMT
I would say the Fifth Doctor, but that is simply because he was the one to follow my favourite Doctor, the one a grew up with, the Fourth Doctor.
The Fifth Doctor was the Doctor in the Tardis when I left Doctor Who
If anyone mentions Doctor Who it is Tom Baker that comes to mind, so he will always be THE Doctor for me.
He is also the only classic Doctor Who Doctor that I have seen all his episodes.
Doctor Five, Six and Seven have all been a revelation on audio. I have said it before, Big Finish reignited my love for Doctor Who.
And the fact that Tom Baker is still having adventures as The Doctor just enhances my love for Big Finish.
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