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Post by icecreamdf on Oct 27, 2015 23:36:45 GMT
Thats true she does lol. Id forgotten that little tidbit President of what? Britain doesn't have a President and the President of the US needs to be born in the US. This made me scratch my head when it first aired. Well, if you believe certain people, our current president wasn't born in the US.  I imagine I'll enjoy this spinoff about as much as I enjoyed SJA. I hope Ian guest stars at some point. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 0:08:36 GMT
Honestly, I'm looking forward to this immensly! Looking forward to this further expansion of revival Who and how it will tie-into it's parent program. |
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Post by david on Oct 28, 2015 0:43:27 GMT
Honestly, I'm looking forward to this immensly! Looking forward to this further expansion of revival Who and how it will tie-into it's parent program. Yeah me too. It got quite a hostile response on announcement and I'm not too sure why. The YA market is bigger than anything gong right now and I'm sure the Beeb are looking for something solid to lead BBC Three's brand as it goes to being an online service. If nothing else, surely the doom sayers should be happy - only successful shows get spinoffs! I think some people miscontrue what YA is and think this is going to be like the much younger kids we had in Forest Of The Night. I think it'll be much more likely to be kids towards university age, like Bad Education or Waterloo Road have featured in the past few years. Basically Grange Hill in the Doctor Who Universe....that sounds really interesting to me! |
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Post by david on Nov 26, 2015 12:43:44 GMT
So the BBC Trust have approved plans for BBC3 to be taken off air and become online only BUT on the understanding that any long form programming (so, Class) will be shown on either BBC1 or BBC2 instead of just being online/Iplayer only.
So depending on scheduling this could see the show get much higher ratings than it would on BBC3.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 26, 2015 13:26:37 GMT
So the BBC Trust have approved plans for BBC3 to be taken off air and become online only BUT on the understanding that any long form programming (so, Class) will be shown on either BBC1 or BBC2 instead of just being online/Iplayer only. So depending on scheduling this could see the show get much higher ratings than it would on BBC3. This gets stranger and stranger.
* Targeted at Young Adults (how's that different from the main series?) *Almost the same level of money/effort put into it as the main series *No established character Heading it. *Only a semi-established setting. *And now Possibly a more respectable audience share then forecast.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 15:22:13 GMT
So the BBC Trust have approved plans for BBC3 to be taken off air and become online only BUT on the understanding that any long form programming (so, Class) will be shown on either BBC1 or BBC2 instead of just being online/Iplayer only. So depending on scheduling this could see the show get much higher ratings than it would on BBC3. This gets stranger and stranger.
* Targeted at Young Adults (how's that different from the main series?) *Almost the same level of money/effort put into it as the main series *No established character Heading it. *Only a semi-established setting. *And now Possibly a more respectable audience share then forecast.
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But made by somebody else so probably seen as a good way of allowing moffat more time to make series ten. |
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Nov 26, 2015 16:37:35 GMT
Wasn't 'young adult' the target audience for torchwood?
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Post by david on Nov 26, 2015 17:38:51 GMT
Wasn't 'young adult' the target audience for torchwood? No. |
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Post by david on Nov 26, 2015 17:42:36 GMT
So the BBC Trust have approved plans for BBC3 to be taken off air and become online only BUT on the understanding that any long form programming (so, Class) will be shown on either BBC1 or BBC2 instead of just being online/Iplayer only. So depending on scheduling this could see the show get much higher ratings than it would on BBC3. This gets stranger and stranger.
* Targeted at Young Adults (how's that different from the main series?) *Almost the same level of money/effort put into it as the main series *No established character Heading it. *Only a semi-established setting. *And now Possibly a more respectable audience share then forecast.
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* The main series is aimed at family audiences. YA is a more teen oriented market that's not meant for 5 year olds. * How do we know the budget or amount of effort? There's no way on Earth this costs anywhere near as much as Who. * We don't know the cast. * Wheras 100% of brand new shows don't even have that...and that doesn't hold them back * good! |
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Post by seeley on Nov 26, 2015 19:27:35 GMT
The main series is aimed at family audiences. YA is a more teen oriented market that's not meant for 5 year olds. Hunger Games versus Star Wars, as it were. Re President Courtney: Doesn't Enemy of the World have a world-government by the year 2030? It's certainly the case by Frontier in Space. So perhaps she's a successor to Salamander. |
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Post by mrfuggleboppins on Nov 26, 2015 19:34:31 GMT
Wasn't 'young adult' the target audience for torchwood? There's plenty of teenagers who watch Torchwood, but with some 18 rated episodes it doesn't fall under the 'young adult' category. Young adult is closer to 12 rated content - so stuff like The Hunger Games and Harry Potter (although both are wide-reaching but also with adult aspects at the same time). There might be some 15 rated content that comes under 'young adult' but I can't think of anything off-hand. |
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Post by mrfuggleboppins on Nov 26, 2015 19:35:49 GMT
The main series is aimed at family audiences. YA is a more teen oriented market that's not meant for 5 year olds. Hunger Games versus Star Wars, as it were. Re President Courtney: Doesn't Enemy of the World have a world-government by the year 2030? It's certainly the case by Frontier in Space. So perhaps she's a successor to Salamander. The Enemy of the World is set in 2017. Followed three years later by The Power of the Daleks.  I'm holding out hopes Moffat will reference the story around the time of Series 11, although I won't be too optimistic. |
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Post by mark687 on Nov 26, 2015 20:28:55 GMT
This gets stranger and stranger.
* Targeted at Young Adults (how's that different from the main series?) *Almost the same level of money/effort put into it as the main series *No established character Heading it. *Only a semi-established setting. *And now Possibly a more respectable audience share then forecast.
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* The main series is aimed at family audiences. YA is a more teen oriented market that's not meant for 5 year olds. * How do we know the budget or amount of effort? There's no way on Earth this costs anywhere near as much as Who. * We don't know the cast. * Wheras 100% of brand new shows don't even have that...and that doesn't hold them back * good! *Recent events in the show certainly haven't been aimed at 5 year olds I wondering how much stronger/ weaker in tone this will be.
* From the BBC News piece: BBC Three today announces Class - a new 8 x 45 minute Doctor Who spin off from the acclaimed YA author, Patrick Ness. Class is a YA series set in contemporary London. Incredible dangers are breaking through the walls of time and space, and with darkness coming, London is unprotected. With all the action, heart and adrenalin of the best YA fiction (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Hunger Games), this is Coal Hill School and Doctor Who like you’ve never seen them before. So near enough the same budget/effort I would think.
* Fair Comment
* I suppose I'd preferred established characters in a new setting
* Time will tell
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Post by david on Nov 26, 2015 21:02:41 GMT
* The main series is aimed at family audiences. YA is a more teen oriented market that's not meant for 5 year olds. * How do we know the budget or amount of effort? There's no way on Earth this costs anywhere near as much as Who. * We don't know the cast. * Wheras 100% of brand new shows don't even have that...and that doesn't hold them back * good! *Recent events in the show certainly haven't been aimed at 5 year olds I wondering how much stronger/ weaker in tone this will be.
* From the BBC News piece: BBC Three today announces Class - a new 8 x 45 minute Doctor Who spin off from the acclaimed YA author, Patrick Ness. Class is a YA series set in contemporary London. Incredible dangers are breaking through the walls of time and space, and with darkness coming, London is unprotected. With all the action, heart and adrenalin of the best YA fiction (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Hunger Games), this is Coal Hill School and Doctor Who like you’ve never seen them before. So near enough the same budget/effort I would think.
* Fair Comment
* I suppose I'd preferred established characters in a new setting
* Time will tell
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Sorry Mark but that quote says absolutely nothing about budget and effort. They're obviously gona hype a show when its being announced. They're not going to say "Well, this ones a cheapy bit of filler"  And yes, this series has been more mature but come - Doctor Who is and always has been marketed as a family show. You can get Easter eggs, toothbrushes, advent calendars. There's a DWM spinoff for kids. That's not YA. |
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Post by david on Nov 26, 2015 21:03:58 GMT
Hunger Games versus Star Wars, as it were. Exactly. |
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Post by mark687 on Nov 26, 2015 21:11:04 GMT
Sorry Mark but that quote says absolutely nothing about budget and effort. They're obviously gona hype a show when its being announced. They're not going to say "Well, this ones a cheapy bit of filler" And yes, this series has been more mature but come - Doctor Who is and always has been marketed as a family show. You can get Easter eggs, toothbrushes, advent calendars. There's a DWM spinoff for kids. That's not YA. We'll just have to wait I see I suppose David. 
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 27, 2015 13:20:24 GMT
Well since BBC3 is now meant to be online only from Feb next year from what i've heard, a lot of people may miss out
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Post by david on Nov 27, 2015 14:10:30 GMT
Well since BBC3 is now meant to be online only from Feb next year from what i've heard, a lot of people may miss out As I posted above, the deal to take BBC3 online has a clause that any long form programming will be shown on terrestrial channels - so Class will be on BBC1 or BBC2 as well as online. So there will be a larger potential audience - scheduling permitting - than if BBC3 stayed on the air. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 14:11:13 GMT
Well since BBC3 is now meant to be online only from Feb next year from what i've heard, a lot of people may miss out I think it's likely to result in the show moving to BBC2, perhap showing there a week after debuting online. Which would be good news. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 27, 2015 14:12:58 GMT
Ah thats fair enough then
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And yes, this series has been more mature but come - Doctor Who is and always has been marketed as a family show. You can get Easter eggs, toothbrushes, advent calendars. There's a DWM spinoff for kids. That's not YA.