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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 13, 2018 21:46:03 GMT
It’s on the BBC Doctor Who website, I’ll comment it below so it won’t show up
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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 13, 2018 21:47:44 GMT
“Rosa” “Montgomery, Alabama. 1955. The Doctor and her friends find themselves in the Deep South of America. As they encounter a seamstress by the name of Rosa Parks, they begin to wonder whether someone is attempting to change history.” So I guess it was true after all www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bpwm2m
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 13, 2018 22:07:12 GMT
Back on Earth in 1955 would certainly seem to imply they find the TARDIS at some point in episode two. Unless of course they don't.
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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 13, 2018 22:27:22 GMT
Back on Earth in 1955 would certainly seem to imply they find the TARDIS at some point in episode two. Unless of course they don't. I think so I saw a pic of Jodie in the Tardis which i didn’t want to someone had commented it on the bbc tweet asking if people wanted reminding about dw
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Post by Ela on Oct 14, 2018 3:21:43 GMT
I hope they handle it right. That's a very touchy period of history.
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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 14, 2018 8:46:16 GMT
I hope it does as people should at least know her but I do admit that she did do much more than just not standing but I’m not sure of all that Thank God Blackman is writing it, we read one of her books in school and it was very powerful and utterly gutting so I have faith she won’t just whitewash it with 13
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 8:46:57 GMT
I hope they handle it right. That's a very touchy period of history. Chris said at NYCC last week this is the first idea he had when thinking of what historical events he wanted told in this series so you've got to think he's got an idea for it. It's being co-written by the wonderful Malorie Blackman, a person of colour herself, who was the Children's laureate and a pretty famous novelist in the UK at least. Her books are often about using genre tropes to explore real social issues so I think this Rosa Parks ep is gonna be perfect for her. Honestly, check out her Noughts And Crosses books...she's the number one writer you'd want for this gig. What I know none of us SJWs want (or are we snowflakes this week? ) is The Doctor being the reason Rosa does what she does, or inspiring Rosa somehow. The story of Rosa's courage needs to be her own without a white messiah - but I really think Malorie and Chris don't need to be told that. They'll know the score. And they hopefully will show more than "the bus" as a one-off. Rosa led a much bigger life and story than one act of defiance. She'd been heavily involved with the NAACP for well over a decade. And her story after Montgomery is just as remarkable, giving pretty much all the money she made from speeches and events to civil rights causes and therefore living life in poverty when she could have been very, very comfortable. I read her autobiography in school and it really opened my eyes. IF I had to guess, I'd say Rosa's story will unfurl exactly as it's going to and the role the TARDIS team play isn't in helping her per se but rather in stopping another force from diverting history by changing events. So The Doctor can stop whatever and whoever is the "baddie", without patronising anyone proud of the civil rights movement's legacy. Almost Terminator 2 style - Jodie and co aren't changing events for Rosa (or John Connor), they're stopping the "baddie" from changing them and whatever Rosa does was what "should" happen anyway. I was actually quite shocked when the rumours about this ep came up last year that more than a couple of posters didn't know who Rosa was. If that's true of many...this ep will change that at least!
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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 14, 2018 13:38:39 GMT
I hope they handle it right. That's a very touchy period of history. Chris said at NYCC last week this is the first idea he had when thinking of what historical events he wanted told in this series so you've got to think he's got an idea for it. It's being co-written by the wonderful Malorie Blackman, a person of colour herself, who was the Children's laureate and a pretty famous novelist in the UK at least. Her books are often about using genre tropes to explore real social issues so I think this Rosa Parks ep is gonna be perfect for her. Honestly, check out her Noughts And Crosses books...she's the number one writer you'd want for this gig. What I know none of us SJWs want (or are we snowflakes this week? ) is The Doctor being the reason Rosa does what she does, or inspiring Rosa somehow. The story of Rosa's courage needs to be her own without a white messiah - but I really think Malorie and Chris don't need to be told that. They'll know the score. And they hopefully will show more than "the bus" as a one-off. Rosa led a much bigger life and story than one act of defiance. She'd been heavily involved with the NAACP for well over a decade. And her story after Montgomery is just as remarkable, giving pretty much all the money she made from speeches and events to civil rights causes and therefore living life in poverty when she could have been very, very comfortable. I read her autobiography in school and it really opened my eyes. IF I had to guess, I'd say Rosa's story will unfurl exactly as it's going to and the role the TARDIS team play isn't in helping her per se but rather in stopping another force from diverting history by changing events. So The Doctor can stop whatever and whoever is the "baddie", without patronising anyone proud of the civil rights movement's legacy. Almost Terminator 2 style - Jodie and co aren't changing events for Rosa (or John Connor), they're stopping the "baddie" from changing them and whatever Rosa does was what "should" happen anyway. I was actually quite shocked when the rumours about this ep came up last year that more than a couple of posters didn't know who Rosa was. If that's true of many...this ep will change that at least! With them spotting someone meddling with an important moment in time It makes me think of The Monk
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 14, 2018 14:00:55 GMT
Small suggestion for dalek: maybe retitle the thread to S11E03 Rosa, that way we already have a discussion thread for the episode when it airs. Kill two Cybermen with one gold star.
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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 14, 2018 14:29:02 GMT
Small suggestion for dalek: maybe retitle the thread to S11E03 Rosa, that way we already have a discussion thread for the episode when it airs. Kill two Cybermen with one gold star. I’ll do it just before ep 2 airs so we can talk about it as it will be the next one
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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 14, 2018 14:43:46 GMT
Small suggestion for dalek: maybe retitle the thread to S11E03 Rosa, that way we already have a discussion thread for the episode when it airs. Kill two Cybermen with one gold star. I was actually surprised there wasn’t one as you guys are very sharp on the mark
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Post by veryfactualdalek on Oct 14, 2018 15:22:57 GMT
Small suggestion for dalek: maybe retitle the thread to S11E03 Rosa, that way we already have a discussion thread for the episode when it airs. Kill two Cybermen with one gold star. Saw that ep 4 had been posted so I guess I’ll do it now lol thanks 😝
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 15:24:29 GMT
Only thing being of course, any spoilers in tags before broadcast please.
We don't want to have leaks like Chris Evans with Jodie about Ep2 the other day
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Post by Ela on Oct 14, 2018 17:07:58 GMT
I hope they handle it right. That's a very touchy period of history. Chris said at NYCC last week this is the first idea he had when thinking of what historical events he wanted told in this series so you've got to think he's got an idea for it. It's being co-written by the wonderful Malorie Blackman, a person of colour herself, who was the Children's laureate and a pretty famous novelist in the UK at least. Her books are often about using genre tropes to explore real social issues so I think this Rosa Parks ep is gonna be perfect for her. Honestly, check out her Noughts And Crosses books...she's the number one writer you'd want for this gig. What I know none of us SJWs want (or are we snowflakes this week? ) is The Doctor being the reason Rosa does what she does, or inspiring Rosa somehow. The story of Rosa's courage needs to be her own without a white messiah - but I really think Malorie and Chris don't need to be told that. They'll know the score. And they hopefully will show more than "the bus" as a one-off. Rosa led a much bigger life and story than one act of defiance. She'd been heavily involved with the NAACP for well over a decade. And her story after Montgomery is just as remarkable, giving pretty much all the money she made from speeches and events to civil rights causes and therefore living life in poverty when she could have been very, very comfortable. I read her autobiography in school and it really opened my eyes. IF I had to guess, I'd say Rosa's story will unfurl exactly as it's going to and the role the TARDIS team play isn't in helping her per se but rather in stopping another force from diverting history by changing events. So The Doctor can stop whatever and whoever is the "baddie", without patronising anyone proud of the civil rights movement's legacy. Almost Terminator 2 style - Jodie and co aren't changing events for Rosa (or John Connor), they're stopping the "baddie" from changing them and whatever Rosa does was what "should" happen anyway. I was actually quite shocked when the rumours about this ep came up last year that more than a couple of posters didn't know who Rosa was. If that's true of many...this ep will change that at least! You make some very good points, Davy. Even today, many don't know all about Rosa Parks and how she came to be that woman on the bus.
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Post by constonks on Oct 14, 2018 17:11:28 GMT
Back on Earth in 1955 would certainly seem to imply they find the TARDIS at some point in episode two. Unless of course they don't. One of the things that was caught on camera while the show was filming... was the team stepping out of the TARDIS in modern day London and Yaz being amazed that they were home. That sure sounds like episode 4 to me. So they either get it back in #2 or #3. My money is on today's episode.
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Post by IndieMacUser on Oct 14, 2018 17:12:46 GMT
Back on Earth in 1955 would certainly seem to imply they find the TARDIS at some point in episode two. Unless of course they don't. One of the things that was caught on camera while the show was filming... was the team stepping out of the TARDIS in modern day London and Yaz being amazed that they were home. That sure sounds like episode 4 to me. Episode 4 set in Sheffield. They just released the synopsis
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Post by mark687 on Oct 14, 2018 19:05:40 GMT
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Post by dasmaniac on Oct 14, 2018 19:33:36 GMT
I've been waiting for Doctor Who to tackle the Civil Rights Movement. I assume it isn't taught in history in British schools so I'm not sure how much people know about the civil rights movement. This is such an important event in American history.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 20:37:14 GMT
I've been waiting for Doctor Who to tackle the Civil Rights Movement. I assume it isn't taught in history in British schools so I'm not sure how much people know about the civil rights movement. This is such an important event in American history. I mean, as far as im aware, its part pf the national ciriculum and its just as compulsary as learning about the holocaust as an important moment that shaped history. At least it was in my school but im pretty certain its part of the national ciriculum, or at least was.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 21:00:39 GMT
Speaking of touchy subjects that should be taken seriously, everyone remember the time Rory locked Hitler in a cupboard?
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