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Post by sherlock on Jan 8, 2019 14:13:41 GMT
Thats how i pictured it actually. She puts together a small band of people and Zygons from UNIT she can really trust (BF Cast for example) and does the UK Branch really underground while the Main rest of the world UNIT does as they always have Sounds like a BF boxset (or several) waiting to happen! In an interview about his involvement in Resolution, Nick Briggs was actually asked directly about the UNIT series touching on the shutdown and said: ‘That’s a matter for the BBC, who approve our storylines. It’d be a great story, though, wouldn’t it? UNIT: The Wilderness Years. I think I’ll pitch that.’ www.doctorwho.tv/news/?article=nick-briggs-exclusive-interview-i-wanted-to-make-this-dalek-superarrogant
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 21:35:40 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Jan 8, 2019 21:39:49 GMT
Signing NDAs over a cup of Tea in the Exces living room its sublimely ridiculously British
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Post by aemiliapaula on Jan 8, 2019 22:59:53 GMT
The Puppet Master aspect was quite frightening. This is the first modern Dalek I was scared of since I found out they are voiced by Nick.
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Post by agentten on Jan 9, 2019 0:22:57 GMT
Briggs really was particularly good in this episode. The Dalek attempting to laugh grave me chills.
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Post by elkawho on Jan 9, 2019 2:58:35 GMT
Briggs really was particularly good in this episode. The Dalek attempting to laugh grave me chills. Me too. I commented about it on Nick's facebook page.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 10:49:59 GMT
Briggs really was particularly good in this episode. The Dalek attempting to laugh grave me chills. Me too. I commented about it on Nick's facebook page. Such a uniquely horrific sound too, very reminiscent of the Radiophonic Workshop. What to even call it...? A crocodile gargling a blender?
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Post by mark687 on Jan 9, 2019 14:44:48 GMT
By contrast Luther added larger proportion - 3.2 million - to its overnight fig. Now up to 8.8 million from 5.6 million. Doctor Who added much less - 1.9 million. Yes viewing habits are changing, but depends on the programme. Doctor Who much more reliant on its overnight audience
*7 Day Consolidated viewing figures
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 15:17:31 GMT
Luther aired every night last week, I think it's fair to say it seems millions did what I did - waited till it finished then watched all 4 eps when the weekend rolled around and you could binge it. If it were on weekly I don't think it would have shifted anywhere near that. People can wait a few days more than they can a month.
For Who it's another good figure, which will still rise a bit before the final figure in 3 weeks. Finding a way to keep the figures this high in 2020, with no new Doctor or companions, and your main monster already used...that'll be the truest test of the era. No-ones going to be watching out of curiosity this time around like the 2 mill who did then dropped off at the start of S11.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 16:26:11 GMT
I would say the year-long break from Doctor Who could do it a favour, curiosity-wise. It will give any audience time to work up enthusiasm for the new run of episodes, and maybe even a few more younger viewers will hop on board. Also, much as we love The Daleks, they haven't always proven to be a big drawer for an audience in terms of viewing figures. Perhaps the hint of some real monsters in the trailers, as opposed to guest actors, will heighten awareness of the new series by the time 2020 rolls around. We won't see another 8 million overnight, I'm sure, but the ratings will be a lot more consistent; bizarrely, it seems 2018's strong opening episode's ratings has proven to be a stick to beat Who with (by those who enjoy doing these things) - "Oh look how viewing figures have dropped from the opening episode," being a predictable lament.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 18:33:25 GMT
I would say the year-long break from Doctor Who could do it a favour, curiosity-wise. It will give any audience time to work up enthusiasm for the new run of episodes, and maybe even a few more younger viewers will hop on board. Also, much as we love The Daleks, they haven't always proven to be a big drawer for an audience in terms of viewing figures. Perhaps the hint of some real monsters in the trailers, as opposed to guest actors, will heighten awareness of the new series by the time 2020 rolls around. We won't see another 8 million overnight, I'm sure, but the ratings will be a lot more consistent; bizarrely, it seems 2018's strong opening episode's ratings has proven to be a stick to beat Who with (by those who enjoy doing these things) - "Oh look how viewing figures have dropped from the opening episode," being a predictable lament. I'm not sure that's borne out by the evidence we have from the post-2005 revival. The seasons we've seen not changed either a Doctor or Companion - Series 6, 7 and 9 - all saw lower ratings than the series preceding them for both the premiere ep and for the series overall. So there's certainly evidence that if nothing changes, people do drop off since it's happened on all three occasions the TARDIS crew has been the same in back to back years. That will absolutely happen this time if only for the fact, as you say, those opening eps have somewhat skewed the figures from where they would normally be for Jodie which seems to be 7.5m-ish with the +28s in. The success will be in how little it loses - Series 7 lost little ground on Series 6 so no biggie but Series 9 was wayyy down from Series 8. That's what Chibnall will surely be mindful of. The show hasn't done the numbers with young people that it perhaps was hoping for and the tone would perhaps imply it's aiming for. Even Jodie's juggernaut debut had less than 800K under the age of 16 watching, less than 10% of the audience. It seems that a lot of kids now really just don't watch TV as they did 5 years ago. Streaming, gaming and YT seem, anecdotally at least, to be much more prevalent in the lives of kids than telly even during the Tennant or Smith eras. It was over 16s who made Jodie's debut a hit so if the show can catch a new generation of kids, great, but if it couldn't truly do that when it was on screen I'm not sure how it will during a hiatus. I am with you about the trailers. Give people a reason to care about next weeks installment above "Mr Big from Sex And The City is in it, and maybe a Spider" - the Next Time clips are so short they're almost pointless. I think the PR has gone from too much in one direction (John Simm's reveal before Series 10 even aired for example) to too much in the other direction where we know so little beforehand. Great for us...but we're watching anyway. I'm not sure how long the public give that approach. We won't know for sure for over a year but I'm not convinced the show made enough of a pop culture mark this year to rest on it's laurels and assume - a la Series 9's infamous "same old, same old" trailer which even Moffat hated - people will come back because it's Doctor Who. RTD always spoke of the need to give the audience something new every year to get them back on board (hence poor Martha's rather short run) and while narratively it gives more chance for development to keep the same team going, I think RTD was absolutely right. I think audiences do have a very "what have you done for me lately?" attitude these days. They didn't need a hook this year at all - the gender debate was the best PR money couldn't buy. Yet that's only good for the first run. Next year no-ones curious - we've seen who this crew are and what they can do. There's got to be something else to get the hooks in. I must admit I half thought we were getting it at the end of Resolution and the Dalek fleet would be where we start S12.
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Post by theotherjosh on Jan 11, 2019 19:51:43 GMT
I quite like UNIT going the way of the dodo. The way of the Dodo? You mean like getting shot in the face after she catches an alien STD? Too soon? I really liked this one. I see a couple other people have already said it, but I’ll join the chorus. Best Dalek story since series one, and a fantastic bookend to The Woman Who Fell to Earth. Two trivial gripes: I remember that I complained about Order of the Daleks when it came out, because I really didn't think the Daleks needed *another* way to mind control people when they were already sitting on five or six other methods. I guess it could be argued that the Dalek only had these capabilities because it was a recon Dalek, but they didn't seem to make that point. Also, why don't we get some sticks and stones to defeat the Dalek if we're really so concerned about it taking over the world? It apparently worked a thousand years ago. And again, it kind of makes sense if you let your imagination do the heavy lifting. The Dalek was hardly indestructible; it was simply that it could suborn the communications array to contact the Dalek fleet before resources could be brought to bear to defeat it. It wasn't "We'll never beat this thing!"; it was "It's going to be able to call down overwhelming force before we can beat this thing." I think the story would have worked better if they had emphasized this point, particularly in light of the way it was eventually defeated. Despite all this, I really did like it. Best directed episode of the series, the woman under Dalek control was genuinely unnerving, the dialogue played to Chinball's strengths. Nick was great, as he always is. The pacing could have been a tiny bit better (as much as I liked the scenes with Ryan's dad, I think they needed to be trimmed a little bit because they undercut the urgency of the situation), but it moved forward quickly and directly. I wish they could all be this good!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 20:03:51 GMT
One little character beat I love from this Doctor, and it's in this ep and numerous others, is she stops to thank the humans that help. Here she says to Lin, when she's struggling with not being able to resist the Dalek; "You kept fighting it - thank you". It's a small thing but she always takes the extra few seconds to do that and it is something very....Thirteenth Doctor. She treats everyone caught up in the adventure the same way she treats her pals.
BTW, the soundtrack for the series (out today, in the UK at least) features music from Resolution and the booklet refers to it as "an eleven episode series". Really does seem, increasingly, to be a cash grab having the special's bluray not in this set and getting a standalone only release. Even if it were on the next set...it's thematically the closer to this series. It wouldn't work opening a new series 12.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 12, 2019 7:18:56 GMT
Also, why don't we get some sticks and stones to defeat the Dalek if we're really so concerned about it taking over the world? It apparently worked a thousand years ago. And again, it kind of makes sense if you let your imagination do the heavy lifting. When you look at all the bodies lying around the funeral pyre it's not hard to imagine the Dalek just being swarmed by strength of numbers alone. Enough people battering on its shell or knocking it over or anything else might be enough for it to be overwhelmed. I know it's an idea that doesn't really hold much weight but it was probably an older style Dalek as well which meant that it wasn't as invincible as the Daleks we are used to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 11:17:10 GMT
Also, why don't we get some sticks and stones to defeat the Dalek if we're really so concerned about it taking over the world? It apparently worked a thousand years ago. And again, it kind of makes sense if you let your imagination do the heavy lifting. When you look at all the bodies lying around the funeral pyre it's not hard to imagine the Dalek just being swarmed by strength of numbers alone. Enough people battering on its shell or knocking it over or anything else might be enough for it to be overwhelmed. I know it's an idea that doesn't really hold much weight but it was probably an older style Dalek as well which meant that it wasn't as invincible as the Daleks we are used to. God, there's an image. Thousands upon thousands of people driving it to the shore as it just hacked its way through them again and again and again. The stuff of Hastings, Leningrad and Ostend. Wearing it down until a lucky strike with an axe, bow or sword cripples it to the spot, tearing the mutant from its housing. Acid bile. Screaming and vengeful. Still howling its revenge as they quarter it with their blades and try to burn the remains to coals.
And still it won't stay dead.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 9, 2019 15:43:29 GMT
28 Day Figures
7.3 Million
(It finished up the 12th most watched programme that week, however, had it broadcast in the Xmas week, with those numbers. it would've been 7th/8th)
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