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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 12:50:36 GMT
{Spoiler} Chris Chibnall on the way out?
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 17, 2018 12:58:29 GMT
{Spoiler} Chris Chibnall on the way out? Well, they don't claim it's from a proper source, so general 'behind the scenes' rumours aren't terribly helpful. I imagine Chris probably had his share of arguments with the Beeb, but then what creator doesn't with a broadcaster or network? Considering he got Rosa greenlit, I imagine some blood pressure rose there in getting that done.
Chris' career paints him more as a warhorse who sticks around tills the job's done: I don't see him doing less than three years and handing over in 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 13:00:19 GMT
{Spoiler} Chris Chibnall on the way out? Well, they don't claim it's from a proper source, so general 'behind the scenes' rumours aren't terribly helpful. I imagine Chris probably had his share of arguments with the Beeb, but then what creator doesn't with a broadcaster or network? Considering he got Rosa greenlit, I imagine some blood pressure rose there in getting that done.
Chris' career paints him more as a warhorse who sticks around tills the job's done: I don't see him doing less than three years and handing over in 2020.
I remember mention of his 'five year plan'. But then, plans can change ...
I just hope Segun sticks around. He's the star of the show at the moment.
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Post by sherlock on Nov 17, 2018 17:36:11 GMT
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 17, 2018 17:41:52 GMT
Little thing: that's the same article Paz shared.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 18:14:39 GMT
Gotta love an article that starts by saying it's here to put the rumour and conjecture to bed, then ends by starting more rumour and conjecture asking if S12 will be Jodie's last....
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Post by constonks on Nov 17, 2018 20:34:29 GMT
Even if Chibnall was leaving (which is the rumour, unsubstantiated though it is) why would that mean Jodie was as well?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 22:40:39 GMT
Even if Chibnall was leaving (which is the rumour, unsubstantiated though it is) why would that mean Jodie was as well? I suppose the thinking is that Tennant left with RTD and Capaldi left with Steven Moffat, and that no 'nu Who' Doctor has regularly worked for two different showrunners. Also, there's mention that Jodie is a 'young mum', indicating that might be an issue. It is speculation though, I'm sure - after all, would she really take the job on if it was such a problem? Actually, maybe she underestimated the workload.
I'm not going to start dwelling on this!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 14:36:14 GMT
Given Chris Chibnall's liking for secrecy, the first we may know of any regeneration (not that I am in any haste for Jodie to go) is when it actually happens. Imagine that - watching a Doctor Who episode (probably a festive special a few years from now), seeing the beginnings of a regeneration and being completely unprepared for it, and having no knowledge of who the incoming Doctor is!
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 23, 2018 16:15:57 GMT
Given Chris Chibnall's liking for secrecy, the first we may know of any regeneration (not that I am in any haste for Jodie to go) is when it actually happens. Imagine that - watching a Doctor Who episode (probably a festive special a few years from now), seeing the beginnings of a regeneration and being completely unprepared for it, and having no knowledge of who the incoming Doctor is! Thats what Ive wanted ever since Who came back
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 16:37:42 GMT
Rumours and conjecture indeed, until the BBC confirms plans for 2019. It all seems a bit contradictory though, of the idea of having a writers room to take the load off the show runner, to avoid a repetition of the pressures that RTD and Moffatt experienced. If you want to hold on to the talent, you need to give them the means to do the job well. An executive in any other industry delegates and oversees things. I assume too that is why US studios achieve their productivity, by ensuring the load is spread out.
Perhaps Chibnall needs to pass on most or all of actual scripting to others? Reading here and elsewhere, people have queried why this has not been the case with S11. It would also stop him being such an easy target for the online trolls who know so much about creative writing.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 23, 2018 17:24:11 GMT
Rumours and conjecture indeed, until the BBC confirms plans for 2019. It all seems a bit contradictory though, of the idea of having a writers room to take the load off the show runner, to avoid a repetition of the pressures that RTD and Moffatt experienced. If you want to hold on to the talent, you need to give them the means to do the job well. An executive in any other industry delegates and oversees things. I assume too that is why US studios achieve their productivity, by ensuring the load is spread out. Perhaps Chibnall needs to pass on most or all of actual scripting to others? Reading here and elsewhere, people have queried why this has not been the case with S11. It would also stop him being such an easy target for the online trolls who know so much about creative writing. Chris taking up the first half is more just accident and bad luck with writers than a manic desire for control. If things had gone more to his original plan, not only would we have had an extra guest writer with Tim Price on whatever his Tsuranga would've been, but Chris would've actually only written 4 out of the 10 episodes (Woman, Ghost, Arachnids and Battle). A perfectly reasonable amount.
The downside to the American-style writersroom system is it doesn't really allow last minute replacements to be drafted in like under Moffat or RTD. Once you're locked in, you're locked in. Blackman struggling with Rosa (which is understandable: it must've been a pain to write) and then Price dropping out stretched Chris more than he expected. Maybe he thought Tsuranga would not've turned out that much better, given the time constraints and picking up where Price left off, so he'd take one for the team.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Nov 23, 2018 19:21:04 GMT
Apparently, the story originally comes from Outpost Skaro, so it's almost certainly nonsense.
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Post by constonks on Nov 24, 2018 8:15:51 GMT
Given Chris Chibnall's liking for secrecy, the first we may know of any regeneration (not that I am in any haste for Jodie to go) is when it actually happens. Imagine that - watching a Doctor Who episode (probably a festive special a few years from now), seeing the beginnings of a regeneration and being completely unprepared for it, and having no knowledge of who the incoming Doctor is! Thats what Ive wanted ever since Who came back A surprise regeneration has never happened, has it? Even the very first time, I'm pretty sure Patrick Troughton was revealed by the BBC before The Tenth Planet 4 aired. It would be hard - you'd have to cast the Doctor super secretly, film nothing obvious on location until after the regeneration airs... But oh my my would it ever be worth it!
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 24, 2018 11:27:48 GMT
Thats what Ive wanted ever since Who came back A surprise regeneration has never happened, has it? Even the very first time, I'm pretty sure Patrick Troughton was revealed by the BBC before The Tenth Planet 4 aired. It would be hard - you'd have to cast the Doctor super secretly, film nothing obvious on location until after the regeneration airs... But oh my my would it ever be worth it! Yeah its never been done but if it were to happen, with the level of secrecy Chibnall has brought to the show he's the one to do it
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 24, 2018 12:43:40 GMT
Doesn't anyone count Ten's regeneration in The Stolen Earth? I know it was a little bit of a cop-out, but it's an official regeneration so it still technically fits the criteria (and we certainly didn't know about it in advance!).
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Post by constonks on Nov 24, 2018 13:28:31 GMT
Doesn't anyone count Ten's regeneration in The Stolen Earth? I know it was a little bit of a cop-out, but it's an official regeneration so it still technically fits the criteria (and we certainly didn't know about it in advance!). Nah, the impressive thing would be secretly replacing the actor. John Hurt comes close (it was a surprise for most, although there were rumours floating around about who he was before Name of the Doctor) but it's not like Matt Smith was suddenly gone and a new lead had taken his place. In the same way, Night of the Doctor doesn't really count either - it was a surprise and a regeneration but not a surprise regeneration.
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 24, 2018 14:11:51 GMT
Doesn't anyone count Ten's regeneration in The Stolen Earth? I know it was a little bit of a cop-out, but it's an official regeneration so it still technically fits the criteria (and we certainly didn't know about it in advance!). Nah, the impressive thing would be secretly replacing the actor. John Hurt comes close (it was a surprise for most, although there were rumours floating around about who he was before Name of the Doctor) but it's not like Matt Smith was suddenly gone and a new lead had taken his place. In the same way, Night of the Doctor doesn't really count either - it was a surprise and a regeneration but not a surprise regeneration. Some might argue that you're being a little biased in your criteria there (the initial discussion point was simply "surprise regeneration") I take your point though
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Post by constonks on Nov 24, 2018 14:44:23 GMT
Nah, the impressive thing would be secretly replacing the actor. John Hurt comes close (it was a surprise for most, although there were rumours floating around about who he was before Name of the Doctor) but it's not like Matt Smith was suddenly gone and a new lead had taken his place. In the same way, Night of the Doctor doesn't really count either - it was a surprise and a regeneration but not a surprise regeneration. Some might argue that you're being a little biased in your criteria there (the initial discussion point was simply "surprise regeneration") I take your point though Exactly. We've had three surprise regenerations but also none.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 15:49:19 GMT
Does the one at the end of Day of the Moon count?
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