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Post by idle453 on Nov 24, 2018 16:21:18 GMT
I just stated to get an early releases subscription and it noted that due to the reduced price no bonus releases would be included. I can handle not getting the free disc but it appears that I would not get the December bonus release either. I thought I had gotten an early release sub before and gotten both bonuses. Am I misremembering or did I miss an announcement?
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Post by mark687 on Nov 24, 2018 16:53:02 GMT
I just stated to get an early releases subscription and it noted that due to the reduced price no bonus releases would be included. I can handle not getting the free disc but it appears that I would not get the December bonus release either. I thought I had gotten an early release sub before and gotten both bonuses. Am I misremembering or did I miss an announcement? IDLE If the Subscription contains the the December Release the Bonus Release originally came with you get it otherwise no you don't. However you can a free single Disc of your choice on a 12 Month Retroactive Sub.
Interestingly 12 month DL Only Subs Won't get their additional Bonus on CD
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Post by idle453 on Nov 24, 2018 17:28:54 GMT
[/quote] If the Subscription contains the the December Release the Bonus Release originally came with you get it otherwise no you don't. However you can a free single Disc of your choice on a 12 Month Retroactive Sub.
Interestingly 12 month DL Only Subs Won't get their additional Bonus on CD
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[/quote] That’s what I thought. But the retroactive sub shows the December release with the 12 in the sub and the early release one doesn’t. IDLE
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 17:42:38 GMT
I just stated to get an early releases subscription and it noted that due to the reduced price no bonus releases would be included. I can handle not getting the free disc but it appears that I would not get the December bonus release either. I thought I had gotten an early release sub before and gotten both bonuses. Am I misremembering or did I miss an announcement? IDLE No, you are remembering perfectly. Not sure exactly when but at some point in the last few months Big Finish quietly dropped the option of bonus discs / downloads for the Early Years Subscriptions. Which is an understandable business decision (and a rather annoying one), as you could have potentially spent £32 on 12 Main Range downloads and picked up an additional 2 Bonus Release downloads (RRP £16) for nothing..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 20:31:27 GMT
EDIT: I'm an idiot, ignore me
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Post by idle453 on Nov 24, 2018 21:02:53 GMT
I just stated to get an early releases subscription and it noted that due to the reduced price no bonus releases would be included. I can handle not getting the free disc but it appears that I would not get the December bonus release either. I thought I had gotten an early release sub before and gotten both bonuses. Am I misremembering or did I miss an announcement? IDLE No, you are remembering perfectly. Not sure exactly when but at some point in the last few months Big Finish quietly dropped the option of bonus discs / downloads for the Early Years Subscriptions. Which is an understandable business decision (and a rather annoying one), as you could have potentially spent £32 on 12 Main Range downloads and picked up an additional 2 Bonus Release downloads (RRP £16) for nothing.. but does the bonus release still come with December’s? Otherwise I will get Return of the Daleks on the current sale. I have asked BF and am awaiting reply. IDLE
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 21:30:35 GMT
I just had a quick play with the Main Range Subscriptions. If you were subscribing from 101 (October 2007) for 6 months or 12 months it will include the December bonus release..from December 2008 (Return to the Web Planet).
You could though claim bonus releases prior to Web Planet as your free disc / download option, but only if you took the 12 month subscription at £109.
In the long run it might be cheaper just to buy Return of the Daleks in the sale.
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 24, 2018 23:51:00 GMT
I just stated to get an early releases subscription and it noted that due to the reduced price no bonus releases would be included. I can handle not getting the free disc but it appears that I would not get the December bonus release either. I thought I had gotten an early release sub before and gotten both bonuses. Am I misremembering or did I miss an announcement? IDLE No, you are remembering perfectly. Not sure exactly when but at some point in the last few months Big Finish quietly dropped the option of bonus discs / downloads for the Early Years Subscriptions. Which is an understandable business decision (and a rather annoying one), as you could have potentially spent £32 on 12 Main Range downloads and picked up an additional 2 Bonus Release downloads (RRP £16) for nothing.. This is exactly what I did back at the start of 2015! It was a fantastic deal, and it's a bit of a shame they've gotten rid of it. Now it's even harder for people to get access to The Four Doctors and The Five Companions if they now have to pay a minimum of £109 just for the privilege of listening to them...
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 25, 2018 0:12:14 GMT
This is exactly what I did back at the start of 2015! It was a fantastic deal, and it's a bit of a shame they've gotten rid of it. Now it's even harder for people to get access to The Four Doctors and The Five Companions if they now have to pay a minimum of £109 just for the privilege of listening to them... Agreed on Four Doctors & Five Companions. Those were offers from a time when the Main Range was much more prominent and the company's catch phrase was "Subscribers Get More!" I think keeping those two audios under house arrest is self defeating. Surely there are a lot of new fans who would scoop those two audios up if they could.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 0:44:35 GMT
This is exactly what I did back at the start of 2015! It was a fantastic deal, and it's a bit of a shame they've gotten rid of it. Now it's even harder for people to get access to The Four Doctors and The Five Companions if they now have to pay a minimum of £109 just for the privilege of listening to them... Agreed on Four Doctors & Five Companions. Those were offers from a time when the Main Range was much more prominent and the company's catch phrase was "Subscribers Get More!" I think keeping those two audios under house arrest is self defeating. Surely there are a lot of new fans who would scoop those two audios up if they could. Those audios were expressly sold to subscribers on the understanding that they would NEVER be available to purchase separately. BF would be breaking the law to do so now.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 25, 2018 0:50:12 GMT
Agreed on Four Doctors & Five Companions. Those were offers from a time when the Main Range was much more prominent and the company's catch phrase was "Subscribers Get More!" I think keeping those two audios under house arrest is self defeating. Surely there are a lot of new fans who would scoop those two audios up if they could. Those audios were expressly sold to subscribers on the understanding that they would NEVER be available to purchase separately. BF would be breaking the law to do so now. Things, circumstances and priorities change. Release them so everyone can enjoy them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 0:59:21 GMT
Those audios were expressly sold to subscribers on the understanding that they would NEVER be available to purchase separately. BF would be breaking the law to do so now. Things, circumstances and priorities change. Release them so everyone can enjoy them. When The Four Doctors and The Five Companions were announced, Big Finish explicitly said that the only way to get them would be via a subscription. They cannot legally make them available by any other method.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Nov 25, 2018 1:16:19 GMT
Things, circumstances and priorities change. Release them so everyone can enjoy them. When The Four Doctors and The Five Companions were announced, Big Finish explicitly said that the only way to get them would be via a subscription. They cannot legally make them available by any other method. You are actually serious? There is no law to break. They entered into no contract. If they make the decision to sell them to the public there is no case that anyone could make. Their statement was a PR stunt to push subscriptions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 1:58:54 GMT
When The Four Doctors and The Five Companions were announced, Big Finish explicitly said that the only way to get them would be via a subscription. They cannot legally make them available by any other method. You are actually serious? There is no law to break. They entered into no contract. If they make the decision to sell them to the public there is no case that anyone could make. Their statement was a PR stunt to push subscriptions. Yeah, there's no legal repercussions here at all. No-one bought Four Doctors or Five Companions from BF - they were "gifts". No court would even hear that case much less find against BF. It's more an ethical thing - Nick has said many times they would never be available. Is that set in stone? Once upon a time the Short Trips were exclusive to us subscribers too, now they only give you exclusivity for a few years before they're available for sale to alll. I think that's perfectly fine and would advocate the same for Four Doctors and Five Companions. I've had them for years, been able to enjoy them for years...I wouldn't grudge anyone getting to share that. Not everyone can afford subs at that price - I'd be all for sharing the good stuff with them at usual price. Neither is a particularly great story, it's not like they're something really special worth making exclusive to the diehards - they're both just a one-hour fun runabout. Polly gets a lovely scene with Davison, McGann gets some fun stuff with an intercom....I think they'd be nice treats to release for general sale for the 20th anniversary. Still, I know Nick is very sensitive to being accused of not sticking to his word and it may be something he isn't willing to budge on. I hope he does - there are good fans who a) can't afford 240 quid to get the subs and b) have picked up half the stories in the sub run in sales meaning they'd get even less value.
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Post by number13 on Nov 25, 2018 2:17:34 GMT
Either title can be chosen as the free <£10.99 CD with any 12 release MR sub including subs to current/forthcoming releases, which is how I got them over my first two years with BF. That's assuming listeners generally still subscribe to the MR - maybe it's not so attractive an option for new BF listeners now there's so much else being released all the time?
I only came to BF a few years ago but as an old-school Classic era fan a current MR sub seemed (and seems) essential. That and the autumn EA sub were my first serious steps into BF collecting and I'll keep subbing to both as long as they keep going (as long as possible, please!.) And look what happened to me - those first two subs have a lot to answer for...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 2:28:24 GMT
Either title can be chosen as the free <£10.99 CD with any 12 release MR sub including subs to current/forthcoming releases, which is how I got them over my first two years with BF. That's assuming new listeners still subscribe to the MR - maybe it's not so attractive an option for new BF listeners now there's so much else being released all the time?
I only came to BF a few years ago but as an old-school Classic era fan a current MR sub seemed (and seems) essential. That and the autumn EA sub were my first steps into BF collecting. They have a lot to answer for... Which is still a chunk of change - 120 quid is just not something everyone can find - especially when there's also 6 or 7 new BF products each and every month to keep up with. Quite a few regulars here, big fans, have never subbed because of the cost and wait for sales for the MR. Wouldn't help them too much. I know some will say "well...that's the price" but, I dunno, I think letting everyone hear the stories at an affordable point is a good thing and can't see much of an argument against it. I know a lot of people have just ebayed to buy them at 30-40 quid. BF could make these available, sell plenty of copies, please those that can't afford to pay 120 quid but could find a tenner. There's really no downside there. If they were breaking their word about something that cost people something, that hurt some of us, then I'd see the point but breaking their word to make their work available to all at a decent price? Seems a good reason.
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Post by number13 on Nov 25, 2018 2:35:52 GMT
Either title can be chosen as the free <£10.99 CD with any 12 release MR sub including subs to current/forthcoming releases, which is how I got them over my first two years with BF. That's assuming new listeners still subscribe to the MR - maybe it's not so attractive an option for new BF listeners now there's so much else being released all the time?
I only came to BF a few years ago but as an old-school Classic era fan a current MR sub seemed (and seems) essential. That and the autumn EA sub were my first steps into BF collecting. They have a lot to answer for... Which is still a chunk of change - 120 quid is just not something everyone can find - especially when there's also 6 or 7 new BF products each and every month to keep up with. Quite a few regulars here, big fans, have never subbed because of the cost and wait for sales for the MR. Wouldn't help them too much. I know some will say "well...that's the price" but, I dunno, I think letting everyone hear the stories at an affordable point is a good thing and can't see much of an argument against it. I know a lot of people have just ebayed to buy them at 30-40 quid. BF could make these available, sell plenty of copies, please those that can't afford to pay 120 quid but could find a tenner. There's really no downside there. If they were breaking their word about something that cost people something, that hurt some of us, then I'd see the point but breaking their word to make their work available to all at a decent price? Seems a good reason. Oh sure, I don't feel strongly about it either way. I can see why it was a good PR idea back then and why that might make them feel a promise should be kept. But I can also see why after many years since first release they might want to consider putting them on general sale - or maybe even free DLs for the anniversary?
Everyone who'd already had them as sub bonuses shouldn't feel hard done by and I certainly wouldn't - it's no more than when we pay release price for something knowing it will be on sale sooner or later. It's our choice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 2:40:43 GMT
Which is still a chunk of change - 120 quid is just not something everyone can find - especially when there's also 6 or 7 new BF products each and every month to keep up with. Quite a few regulars here, big fans, have never subbed because of the cost and wait for sales for the MR. Wouldn't help them too much. I know some will say "well...that's the price" but, I dunno, I think letting everyone hear the stories at an affordable point is a good thing and can't see much of an argument against it. I know a lot of people have just ebayed to buy them at 30-40 quid. BF could make these available, sell plenty of copies, please those that can't afford to pay 120 quid but could find a tenner. There's really no downside there. If they were breaking their word about something that cost people something, that hurt some of us, then I'd see the point but breaking their word to make their work available to all at a decent price? Seems a good reason. Oh sure, I don't feel strongly about it either way. I can see why it was a good PR idea back then and why that might make them feel a promise should be kept. But I can also see why after many years since first release they might want to consider putting them on general sale - or maybe even free DLs for the anniversary?
Everyone who'd already had them as sub bonuses shouldn't feel hard done by and I certainly wouldn't - it's no more than when we pay release price for something knowing it will be on sale sooner or later. It's our choice.
Exactly, what we paid for when we bought the subs was the MR stories - that was the steak dinner. The bonus CDs are the breadsticks you get free. Let everyone have breadsticks - we still have our steaks. That's the single worst analogy ever made, and I'm going to report myself to the OCD for crimes against the English language, but I think the point gets across.
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Post by number13 on Nov 25, 2018 10:30:01 GMT
Oh sure, I don't feel strongly about it either way. I can see why it was a good PR idea back then and why that might make them feel a promise should be kept. But I can also see why after many years since first release they might want to consider putting them on general sale - or maybe even free DLs for the anniversary? Everyone who'd already had them as sub bonuses shouldn't feel hard done by and I certainly wouldn't - it's no more than when we pay release price for something knowing it will be on sale sooner or later. It's our choice.
Exactly, what we paid for when we bought the subs was the MR stories - that was the steak dinner. The bonus CDs are the breadsticks you get free. Let everyone have breadsticks - we still have our steaks. That's the single worst analogy ever made, and I'm going to report myself to the OCD for crimes against the English language, but I think the point gets across. Anyway, I'm the last person who should complain about people getting a better deal on product X or Y than I happened to get. To continue your dining analogy (oh no! ) I came late to the Café BF so I've bought most of the menu as sales, catching up on 20 years of exceptional cuisine at anything from discounted to silly-generous prices to warehouse clearance (happy days those were!). Often it's seemed like paying for a burger and still getting a steak dinner! I know I'm in for the long haul now and will be helping to fund many new releases with normal release-price purchases - then other people can have the fun and savings of grabbing those in sales sometime down the road. Spread the love of BF! (Like butter on a hot bread roll? )
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Post by muckypup on Nov 25, 2018 12:39:12 GMT
When The Four Doctors and The Five Companions were announced, Big Finish explicitly said that the only way to get them would be via a subscription. They cannot legally make them available by any other method. You are actually serious? There is no law to break. They entered into no contract. If they make the decision to sell them to the public there is no case that anyone could make. Their statement was a PR stunt to push subscriptions. All this on these two titles......and there not very good ...... just give everyone a download of em for the 20th birthday.......and give the CDs to every completion winner......lol
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