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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 20:26:40 GMT
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Post by newt5996 on Mar 4, 2019 21:34:09 GMT
And someone on Twitter confirmed there is a reversible cover so it should fit in on everyone's shelves.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 4, 2019 22:50:06 GMT
Interesting Colour Animation is on the 1st Disc
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Post by iainmclaughlin on Mar 4, 2019 23:34:06 GMT
This is the story that was airing when I was born. A treat for myselF? Oh, why not.... go on then, you twisted my arm.
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Post by number13 on Mar 5, 2019 1:55:12 GMT
Very helpful, thanks.
Looks like the only extra extras on the steelbook this time are three-way 'Gridlock' which means I can save some money and buy the normal blu-ray. I like steelbooks but I'm not a collector so generally it's content that counts.
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Post by elkawho on Mar 5, 2019 4:05:14 GMT
Again, not releasing the DVD here in the states till OCTOBER! God, it makes me so angry.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 5, 2019 9:07:27 GMT
I’ve stuck with my steelbook order. The price difference isn’t that much, as I’d ordered when it was first announced and that cover is gorgeous. I’ll keep the steelbooks, whereas the DVDs will be retired once they’ve been released on BluRay.
The bonus disc is weak, but if Gridlock is properly restored then that could make a nice backdoor pilot for making the revived series part of The Collection.
I’m looking forward to it!
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 5, 2019 9:10:21 GMT
Interesting Colour Animation is on the 1st Disc Regards mark687 I’m guessing because the actual production has been made in colour, so black and white is essentially the variant this time. I’m actually surprised they didn’t try to make it exclusive to the steelbook.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 5, 2019 14:34:59 GMT
Well the DVD is an Insta-buy
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Mar 9, 2019 8:10:57 GMT
DWM is saying the scene with the “rough and tumble” machine was cut, which is a shame. I can see why from a budgeting perspective (a new Troughton model for a single gag), but it rather defeats the purpose of these reconstructions if they cut scenes out.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 9, 2019 10:39:20 GMT
It’s a shame, but it’s understandable. It’s only a minor scene that’s essentially a gag, so it’s not crucial to the story. There’s two other reconstructions on the set that will presumably include the scene.
I’m not averse to changes when the animation is the full production. I think Power of the Daleks would be better if the team had the time and resources to edit the soundtrack by getting rid of the pauses that the animation couldn’t really fill in.
I think it’s a different kettle of fish when they’re animating individual episodes, though. See the editing of The Reign of Terror.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 22:06:45 GMT
Its good to get a version of a lost story, or episodes, in visual format that is more dynamic than recon/telesnaps. The divisive issue is the budgetary constraint of the animation.
Beyond the Invasion, which had a different inception, I have always preferred the Reign of Terror animations to the others i have seen. Yet the style of these two episodes seemed unpopular to many, being stylised. To myself at least, i preferred them greatly over the methods used in for example, the Ice Warriors, with the Captain Pugwash style Ice Warrior. Beggars can't be choosers, though, and I appreciate that none of these are cheap and cheerful to make.
The Wheel in Space taster seemed good though, so here's hoping that the Macra has a similar lessons learnt approach to feedback from Power of the Daleks generally positive but not-quite-there-yet reception.
I will be getting it irrespective, and really, we need to ask ourselves how much are we willing to pay for more sophisticated animations? There are economies of scale, yet plenty of fans are griping at the cost of some of the collectible variants. This is what recoups the cost though, surely?
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Post by number13 on Mar 10, 2019 1:18:05 GMT
I liked the character depiction and character movement styles of 'The Reign of Terror', but not the hyperactive jump-cutting from wide to close-up to facial detail, etc., etc. with dizzying speed, even while characters speak just a few words. Sometimes there are enough cuts in a sentence to please the most guillotine-happy Revolutionary judge! An early animated scene with Barbara was the worst for this; there were later examples too although the style did seem to calm down.
The style uses quite heavy shading in depicting characters' features, but I thought that was appropriate because most of the animated scenes are of shadowy, candle or torch-lit interiors which reproduce the real sets well. And overall I liked it better than 'The Ice Warriors' with the 'hinged-limb' figures.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 2:32:47 GMT
I've a soft spot for The Reign of Terror's animation too. There's a fluidity to the monochrome shades that really pops on the screen. It's honed from the 1980s anime visual style employed by Paul Johnson for his earlier animation work: So there's an additional appeal to it looking not entirely unlike Bubblegum Crisis or a mecha series from the period. I do agree about the cutting, though. A bit too frenetic. It could've worked for a story produced when the DVD was released, but for something from the 1960s -- in that stageplay style -- it doesn't quite fit. In addition to providing a greater budget, I think the animators could benefit from a bit more time to pull it together. It's a labour-intensive process and very deliberate, where haste costs good animation and it's often the little things that make it click. The glow of an eyestalk, the sheen of a helmet and so on.
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 19, 2019 7:12:32 GMT
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Post by bobod on Mar 19, 2019 10:39:13 GMT
And the complete animation was shown at the BFI on Saturday.
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Post by constonks on Mar 21, 2019 19:15:16 GMT
Well that's certainly the best one I've seen - although I have yet to watch Shada.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 20:00:25 GMT
It's certainly on par with Shada, from that snippet. With Shada though, along with the likes of Invasion, Reign of Terror, Underwater Menace, etc, the presence of surviving episodes helps me at least, to get a feel for the televised visuals when viewing the animation. With Power of the Daleks, i felt the need to skip after an episode, to view a couple of the telesnaps reconstructions to get a reference point, before dipping back into the animated episodes.
I find it frustrating when the telesnaps versions lack subtitles, though, as has been the case in the past, being HOH and a lip reader.
Right now though, I am awaiting confirmation that the DVD will have a reversible sleeve, before deciding which of the three versions to invest in. If it is the case, then likely that will meet my needs quite satisfactorily until a S4 Blu-Ray box set is released. But like others, the Steel book is tempting for presentation value alone despite the fact that the bonus disc seems superfluous. A selection of 50's & 60's non-who appearances by Troughton would have had curiosity value as a bonus disc, a bit like the way ITC entertainment or Network release compilations of 60's & 70's themed disks (kids tv shows, action shows etc)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 20:54:12 GMT
Confirmed:
That's good enough for me to settle for the DVD version!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2019 13:10:32 GMT
My steelbook turned up this morning from Zoom. It's got a lovely matte finish and looks gorgeous. I only stuck on the first disc to check out the quality and it's miles above Shada in terms of the movements being natural. THey've put more into the faces and less to the backgrounds it seems and that pays off well.
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