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Post by Superium on Feb 7, 2019 22:08:45 GMT
This question has been bugging me for the past few days. In the show, we know that the TARDIS can materialize as well as be able to fly in space and in the time vortex. My question is this: if it can fly in space as well as time, why does it need to materialize? Surely, it can fly to whenever and wherever it needs to go and just land at its destination. We've seen that it can, at least, land without materializing in The Christmas Invasion.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 7, 2019 22:30:00 GMT
This question has been bugging me for the past few days. In the show, we know that the TARDIS can materialize as well as be able to fly in space and in the time vortex. My question is this: if it can fly in space as well as time, why does it need to materialize? Surely, it can fly to whenever and wherever it needs to go and just land at its destination. We've seen that it can, at least, land without materializing in The Christmas Invasion. I've always thought the Vortex was almost a separate dimension and the TARDIS travels along it and re-materializes back into Space and Time as we know it at the destination point. Now sometimes it decides to do that in orbit next to or above the exact co-ordinates, meaning traditional landing is needed, so it and the visual effects department of the programme can show off
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Post by sherlock on Feb 9, 2019 21:11:14 GMT
I think it can do both. The act of dematerialising sees it move into the Time Vortex and from there it can rematerialise at any point in Space/Time. In between those acts it can also manoeuvre to an extent within the Vortex itself.
It can also do conventional space flight, which is most obviously depicted in The Runaway Bride with it doing a low-flying pursuit and then taking off in a conventional rocket manner at the end of the episode. The Doctor implies there that it’s not really designed to do such displays of flying in the long term (though for all we know, that could be unique to his outdated Type 40 model and not true of most TARDISes).
Why are TARDISes’ design focused on materialisation rather than conventional flight then? Few ideas: -From what it shown materialisation can be a very quick journey, almost instantaneous sometimes, probably quicker than TARDISes can do by conventional means -As the primary craft of the non-interference era Time Lords, who if they ever leave Gallifrey do not want to draw attention to the fact, it makes sense TARDISes would be designed more for materialisation as that process is probably much more discrete than touching down like a normal spacecraft
There’s probably a middle ground as well, where sometimes the TARDIS rematerialises in deep space and then conventionally touches down on the nearest planet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 21:41:14 GMT
I think it can do both. The act of dematerialising sees it move into the Time Vortex and from there it can rematerialise at any point in Space/Time. In between those acts it can also manoeuvre to an extent within the Vortex itself. It can also do conventional space flight, which is most obviously depicted in The Runaway Bride with it doing a low-flying pursuit and then taking off in a conventional rocket manner at the end of the episode. The Doctor implies there that it’s not really designed to do such displays of flying in the long term (though for all we know, that could be unique to his outdated Type 40 model and not true of most TARDISes). Why are TARDISes’ design focused on materialisation rather than conventional flight then? Few ideas: -From what it shown materialisation can be a very quick journey, almost instantaneous sometimes, probably quicker than TARDISes can do by conventional means -As the primary craft of the non-interference era Time Lords, who if they ever leave Gallifrey do not want to draw attention to the fact, it makes sense TARDISes would be designed more for materialisation as that process is probably much more discrete than touching down like a normal spacecraft There’s probably a middle ground as well, where sometimes the TARDIS rematerialises in deep space and then conventionally touches down on the nearest planet. There is evidence for that very last point in The Tomb of the Cybermen where the expedition mention seeing it land (from what probably looked to them like low orbit).
In addition to secrecy and expediency, safety would also be a concern too. Most of the time, you'd materialise where needs be, but some spatial/temporal regions could be so volatile to the TARDIS's conventional means of travel that approach via space flight is the only option. TARDISes don't react well to excessive gravitational force (Frontios and Castrovalva, for instance) and travel through normal space could also be more effective for things like stellar cartography, mapping out star systems from their suns outward.
I think the Doctor likes to lope around in space occassionally for a bit of a change. Stretch the engines, as it were.
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 10, 2019 9:29:36 GMT
I also agree here, of course it can do both. It is the most advanced ship in the universe, after all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 21:55:24 GMT
I also agree here, of course it can do both. Of course it can! We all know the TARDIS can materialise and dematerialise, but we also know the man himself, i.e. The Doctor once stated that he guides his flight... which must mean it can do both!
Through cosmic waste the TARDIS flies ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 22:13:03 GMT
Also the Doctor doesn't even need the TARDIS! He can just materialize on his own. Jon Pertwee does this at the start of Doctor Who: The Troughton Years VHS. You even hear the wheezing, groaning sound.
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Post by eric009 on Feb 11, 2019 3:56:56 GMT
he does both in THE TWO MASTERS
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