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Post by mark687 on Feb 18, 2019 12:36:24 GMT
Its Awkward to say do you have any knowledge of the start of Dalek Masterplan at all?
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I've seen the three surviving episodes, and roughly know what happens in the rest... You can follow it OK then
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 20:28:55 GMT
Firstly: Tom Baker and Jane Slavin. 10/10. Marvellous pairing, I'm disappointed we won't see more for a while (at least as direct as Doctor/Companion). This is the main disappointment I have after finishing this excellent set of stories... John Dorney shows what an utter evil ba*@*rd he is with his writing to do that at the end of The Perfect Prisoners! It really was a marvellous pairing with a lot of promise. (Maybe Sixie can pick 'her' up on his travels one day like he did with Charley?!)
Apart from that, Series 8B was a really solid set of stories; hugely entertaining, with a bit of madness thrown in for good measure in the middle. Basically, pretty much what you expect from the Fourth Doctor!
Series 8 as a whole is a definite highlight of the 4DA's for me and is quite possibly the best yet. A strong 9/10 from me.
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Post by Ian McArdell on Feb 22, 2019 16:42:03 GMT
So how am I supposed to review that! I'm currently dealing with that same dilemma...
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Feb 22, 2019 18:57:37 GMT
It's worse for me! I review them seperatly
3 and 4 will just be river song saying spoilers
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 27, 2019 9:33:01 GMT
Listened to time's Assassin yesterday. To avoid spoilers for later stories I have not read previous posts on this thread so apologies in advance if I repeat what others have said Well, I certainly enjoyed it and I didn't see the twist coming. Not at all, which is the best kind. Jon Culshaw's performance was excellent and the ridiculousness of his character was genuinely funny. With regard to the twist
As I say I didn't see that coming and whilst it is a clever, original idea and a nice twist, I rather liked Ann and her being a sleeper agent seems to suggest that the most likely outcome is that the "Ann" persona will come to a sticky end. And if that proves to be the case then I will be sad, because I would have liked to know her better for a longer period. However, who knows how this plot line will resolve itself? (Apart of course from everyone who has already listened to 8.7 and 8.8) Maybe "Ann" will endure and even if she doesn't, there's nothing stopping BF from going back to do a few stories set between 8.2 and 8.3, so here's hoping.
ps as regular readers of my posts will have realised I have now discovered how to do spoiler tags. Yee hah!
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 28, 2019 9:10:30 GMT
Well Fever Island was very good indeed. My only criticism would be the same criticism I have of a lot of the 4DAs - the 2 part format. In this case, as in many others, the central idea was strong enough to have sustained 4 episodes and a larger cast
But other than that really good.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 1, 2019 11:21:24 GMT
Perfect Prisoners was fantastic - it felt like a real "event". Kept me guessing all the way through. Full marks to all involved. I thin mark687 said on another thread it was the most consistently good 4DA season since season 3 and I think he is right. In fact I would say it is even better, as nothing in this season reached the depths of The Abandoned I haven't enjoyed a full box set as much as this in a long time.
Like others, I was expecting the Dreyfus Master, but I don't think it's fait to criticise season 8 because my speculative expectations were unfulfilled
As for Ann/Anya, well I liked Ann and it felt like a bit of a gut punch when her real identity was revealed, so I suppose that is my one disappointment with the season and again, it's not fair to criticise anyone for it, because giving the audience a gut punch is, sometimes, part of their job. And they did it very well. I'm still hoping we might get a future season set between episodes 8.2 and 8.3.
I think those early Ann stories will be very poignant on a second listen.
ps Is it too late to get Ann added to the pre-regeneration Logopolis flashbacks in the Season 18 blu ray?
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 1, 2019 11:23:29 GMT
This is the main disappointment I have after finishing this excellent set of stories... John Dorney shows what an utter evil ba*@*rd he is with his writing to do that at the end of The Perfect Prisoners! It really was a marvellous pairing with a lot of promise. ( Maybe Sixie can pick 'her' up on his travels one day like he did with Charley?!)
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Maybe the innocence of Five or the deviousness of Seven would work better?
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Post by IndieMacUser on Mar 3, 2019 7:47:09 GMT
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Post by mrperson on Mar 5, 2019 20:28:58 GMT
Just finished it.
I always love listening to Tom Baker. This might be one of my favorite BF seasons ever, but it's always hard to rank them for me. And that final two-parter....what a way to go out with a bang. Great stuff.
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Post by mrperson on Mar 5, 2019 20:32:55 GMT
How necessary is having seen/heard The Daleks' Master Plan to this series overall, would you say?
I didn't have a problem with it and I've never watched it. It's a reconstruction, right?
I suppose the significance of certain name-drops would come through and perhaps some of it more ominous sounding, but all the same I don't think it mattered for me. Obviously, I can't know for sure...
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 11, 2019 13:58:24 GMT
Time’s Assassin was a lot of fun, much like The False Guardian. It throws absolutely everything at it in the hope it sticks and it absolutely does; I had a great time listening. Tom is superb here and seems to really love having a new companion on board. Speaking of which, that revelation seems to answer my criticisms of the previous set!
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 11, 2019 18:59:16 GMT
Fever Island takes a really good Bond pastiche and does something rather creative with it. K9’s curiosity is fun and it gives John Leeson different material to work with. Tom gets an extra role to have fun with and delivers a wonderful monologue at the end. It’s a story that not only suits being an hour long, but makes sense as being two parts. Often I feel that the need for a cliffhanger halfway through doesn’t work in the favour of these 60 minute stories, but this works well. It’s a nice palate cleanser from an arc heavy story prior and a presumably arc heavy finale to come.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 12, 2019 15:03:18 GMT
So I’ve just finished The Perfect Prisoners and I suppose I feel a bit underwhelmed.
The first two parts are good, with Tom and Jane firing on all cylinders, John Leeson being as great as ever, a nice appearance from Francesca Hunt and the involvement of the Delegates.
Then we get the big reveal, which doesn’t really have much of an impact. Partially because we already know about it and partially because nothing really comes from the new reveal, which is the identity. It just progresses into two episodes of standing around, spouting exposition and wasting all the potential that the previous 14 episodes have set up. And the final few minutes felt very rushed and don’t feel as heartfelt as they should.
Having said that, it’s not bad, I was just a little disappointed with the final hour. I don’t think any of the stories are classics, but it’s the most consistently good the Fourth Doctor Adventures have ever been. It’s taken Big Finish 7 years to do something different with the range, but they’ve managed it and it’s a breath of fresh air. It feels like Big Finish have done an actual new series with Tom and his Doctor. I think that’s largely down to the freedom a new companion, and therefore a new era, allows.
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Post by mbt66 on Mar 24, 2019 11:00:29 GMT
I finally finished this second set yesterday and would agree with all the positive feedback. It was a very enjoyable series although I don’t know if I would rate it the best 4DA series - that is probably a discussion for another time.
I listened to The Daleks Masterplan between these two boxsets, but I confess to still being confused with the characters, but it was nice to have a reason to re-listen it a First Doctor story.
Unlike most, I am happy for the companion to just get the one series as it feels in keeping with The Key To Time with the original Romana only having that one series. Plus I would not like it to be left with them travel onwards and then not get any more stories that explained how the companion leaves the Tardis.
Perhaps Big Finish have plans for another one off companion series between these two, so it then becomes a trilogy of series each with a one-off companion and each with it’s own series arc. I certainly hope that is the case and we can look forward to another collection like The Syndicate Masterplan.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 26, 2019 10:25:25 GMT
Anyone else want to speculate whether or not Clive is Clive from “Rose”?
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Post by fingersmash on Apr 2, 2019 13:54:16 GMT
I'm finally gonna come out and say it. The Ann twist was a crock of bull and totally wasted a great character in service of making a bad Dalek Masterplan sequel out of nowhere. An extremely rare Dorney misstep makes it hurt even more. Needless to say, I didn't like it.
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Post by Ian McArdell on Apr 4, 2019 14:13:47 GMT
Well, I thought this was all rather wonderful... my take is up at CultBox. Damned tricky to review though without spoiling though! Makes me want to wade back though those Dalek Master Plan recons again...
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Post by barnabaslives on Apr 4, 2019 17:28:49 GMT
I'm finally gonna come out and say it. The Ann twist was a crock of bull and totally wasted a great character in service of making a bad Dalek Masterplan sequel out of nowhere. An extremely rare Dorney misstep makes it hurt even more. Needless to say, I didn't like it. I liked it quite a bit - some great stories, in my opinion - but I'm pretty sure I do agree about Ann, she was doing great as her own character without the twist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 18:02:38 GMT
I'm finally gonna come out and say it. The Ann twist was a crock of bull and totally wasted a great character in service of making a bad Dalek Masterplan sequel out of nowhere. An extremely rare Dorney misstep makes it hurt even more. Needless to say, I didn't like it. Agree 100%. Started well then just became rubbish.
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