The end of Marvel at Netflix

Thanks for letting us know I guess...

Shame we have to wait two years for the core for to appear anywhere else.

But Ive heard if they want to because Punisher was a spin off they could pick him straight up

It came out a little while back that part of the contract stipulates that the characters cannot be reused for a period of two years after Netflix canceled the series (might've been 3, but I believe it was 2). So that's a roadblock in itself.

Jeph Loeb (Marvel's TV boss) offered up a little bit of hope during an interview about the end of Legion recently:

But just because Hawley’s vision is ending, that doesn’t mean this story is over. The Marvel head immediately put the announced conclusion into comic book terms. Though Season 3 will see the conclusion of Legion, this is only the end of this particular story. “When you think about Marvel heroes and villains in general, it says ‘The End’ and then at the bottom it says ‘To be continued….'” Loeb explained. “I don’t feel like there’s a world where the story ends.”

That mentality translates to how Loeb views the future of Netflix’s many canceled Marvel properties. To date Netflix has launched six Marvel shows — Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Punisher, and the one-season crossover miniseries The Defenders. So far, Netflix has canceled three of them: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and its most-watched Marvel property, Daredevil.

“I would not be surprised if any of those things reemerged. It depends on showrunner, it depends on availability of cast, all of those things. It’s not like we’re a doctor show where the show got canceled because of bad ratings,” Loeb said. “These are shows that have very different reasons [for ending], most of which I’m not at liberty to talk about, nor should anyone really care at the end of day.”


But I'll qualify that by saying that nothing has been announced or even credibly rumoured.

Thanks for your answers and thoughts, Digi and johnhurtdoctor.

To be fair to Netflix on the Marvel shows, it's Disney's streaming service that killed those. If all Disney, Marvel, Star Wars, etc. content is exclusive to the new Disney service, that's a huge selling point. Really, the content doesn't actually matter, just the number of eyeballs watching it. So stories abruptly end on cliffhangers but instead you can watch The Adventures of Cassian Andor^TM and Loki^TM - for whatever price Disney offers and probably just in the US to start.

EDIT: Perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on Disney - some people are also speculating that Netflix might just want to focus on their own original content, rather than producing Disney's stuff. I guess the timing just strikes me as very convenient for Disney's brand strategy.

Disney hasn't been cancelling the Netflix shows. By all accounts, Marvel and Disney were completely blindsided by the announcements.

Both companies can be a bit hawkish, so the blame could be 100% on Netflix, but it's entirely possible that Disney wanted a different deal this time around (like offering the Netflix series on Disney+ or something).

You're right, though, that Jeph Loeb's quotes certainly put the blame on Netflix, but that's the PR you'd expect.

Admittedly it's all nigh-baseless and carelessly flippant speculation on my part though.

Not sure how I missed this one...over the weekend, following the Punisher/JJ cancellation announcement, a full statement from Jeph Loeb was published online:


A Letter to Marvel Television Fans from Jeph Loeb

It had never been done before.

Four separate television series, each with different super-talented showrunners, writers, directors, cast and crew, coming out months apart and then...

...they would meet in a single event series all set in the heart of New York City.

We called them The Defenders.

And together we were thrilled by stories of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and even the Punisher joined in!

They said it couldn't be done.

But Marvel assembled amazing teams to write, produce, direct, edit, and score 13 seasons and 161 one-hour episodes.

Take a moment and go online and look at the dazzling list of actors, writers, directors, and musicians who graced us with the very best of their craft.

We loved each and every minute of it.

And we did it all for you -- the fans -- who cheered for us around the world and made all the hard work worth it.

So, Thank You!

On behalf of everyone at Marvel Television, we couldn't be more proud or more grateful to our audience.

Our Network partner may have decided they no longer want to continue telling the tales of these great characters... but you know Marvel better than that.

As Matthew Murdock's Dad once said, "The measure of a man is not how he gets knocked to the mat, it's how he gets back up."

To be continued...!

- Jeph Loeb and all of us at Marvel Television



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