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Post by doctorkernow on Jun 18, 2019 17:40:55 GMT
Hello again.
Honestly you wait years for the Master to appear again and four turn up at once! I think as long as the story-telling is good a bit of a gimmick is fine. There's a place for the return of old favourites and the creation of new adversaries.
I don't think I'll be ordering a medley of Masters at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. It would give me indigestion.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 18, 2019 18:52:33 GMT
And Eric Roberts once again sounds flat & lifeless. Michelle Gomez on the other hand once more sounds amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 5:32:39 GMT
I just completed a relisten to Ravenous 1 and although it wasn’t my most relistened set of the Ravenous Range i must say i really really enjoyed it .I almost know 2 and 3 off by heart as i really love and enjoy the sets.But this is really great and very loose almost four independent stories.It is definitely a TASTER (no pun intended lol) for what was to come.
i think the Kandyman was a great Diversion as i really thought how does HE become the Villain of the next few sets?
I have unlike others no Gripes about either the sound design or the imagery of the Ravenous in fact if i could draw...they would scare the shit...and the little teaser of the clown like figure shown gives me the creeps.
Its also a confirmation that with this team you dont need an over all arc that independent stories would really work with them. With only one more set soon to be released i would say Like Doom Coalition Set these will be another Star in the Big Finish firmament.If you havent indulged so far go on gorge yourself....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 6:03:44 GMT
A little disheartening to already see so many posts in this thread calling it a "gimmick." That's a bit dismissive/flippant, for an effort that's pretty colossal in its undertaking--Fitton and Dorney spending weeks writing scripts, editing, revising so it all fits together, the (I can only imagine to be) Herculean task of trying to schedule as many busy actors into the studio at the same time as possible, a troupe of actors learning how to say their lines just right and how to respond to the rhythms and cadences of each other, Ken's undoubted need to focus in the extreme to get the performances he wants, the weeks (months?) that the sound designers spend making sure everything sounds just right). It's not as though this sort of thing is some casual 'hey let's do this' fanjodrell decision while drunk at the pub. hey, I sure would love to listen to Matt Fitton,John Dorney and Ken Bentley down the pub too! These guys imaginations really are amazing.after a couple of drams or pints or cocktails am sure they must be spewing creative juice 😂. And all to give me endless hours of bloody awesome audio. As for the Masters....it seems to me that Beevers Master does something that actually puts his other lives in danger that his scheming back fires and that’s thought provoking in itself that the Masters actually have to work with the Doctor once more (Logopolis shades) to undo his scheme and I cannot imagine the 11 wanting to be eclipsed by that shady lot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 7:04:58 GMT
I was sharing a thought with TUIGIRL also...
I could be wrong but what i always assumed to be a Ravenous in an Unearthly woman say something about HIS MASTERs?
If the Masters are in control of the Ravenous that also throws the next set into a completely different direction. Which throws it into another completely different direction from my original thought that somehow it was the 11 that released the Ravenous (which was my original inclination from the great 2nd set of stories)
Oh i just love debating with my own thoughts 😂🤪
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 7:35:00 GMT
Time Scaphe-Alpha 9-when you listen to McGann narrate the tale..you just wish Mr Fitton had written the TALE as an episode it’s horrific stuff.What an episode it would have made ,an Ideal Christmas Tale for him and Mr Dorney I think i would buy.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 7, 2019 8:31:47 GMT
Time Skiff Alpha 9-when you listen to McGann narrate the tale..you just wish Mr Fitton had written the TALE as an episode it’s horrific stuff.What an episode it would have made...an Ideal Christmas Tale for him and Mr Dorney....i think i would buy Well, they can still do it. After all, we now also get the story of 7 and Rasmus catching the Eleven and Liv's adventures on Kaldor.
And I agree, McGann has a perfect narrating voice, especially for dark and scary stuff. You could listen to him all day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 8:35:37 GMT
Time Skiff Alpha 9-when you listen to McGann narrate the tale..you just wish Mr Fitton had written the TALE as an episode it’s horrific stuff.What an episode it would have made...an Ideal Christmas Tale for him and Mr Dorney....i think i would buy Well, they can still do it. After all, we now also get the story of 7 and Rasmus catching the Eleven and Liv's adventures on Kaldor.
And I agree, McGann has a perfect narrating voice, especially for dark and scary stuff. You could listen to him all day. So funny am relistening to my relisten of Deeptime and Rasmus just appeared hahaha and it reminded me of that 7 story to come
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 8:38:28 GMT
Time Skiff Alpha 9-when you listen to McGann narrate the tale..you just wish Mr Fitton had written the TALE as an episode it’s horrific stuff.What an episode it would have made...an Ideal Christmas Tale for him and Mr Dorney....i think i would buy Well, they can still do it. After all, we now also get the story of 7 and Rasmus catching the Eleven and Liv's adventures on Kaldor.
And I agree, McGann has a perfect narrating voice, especially for dark and scary stuff. You could listen to him all day.
[bsi So funny am relustening to my relisten of Deeptime and Rasmus just appeared hahaha and it reminded me of that 7 story to come
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 11:41:59 GMT
Well thats me all primed up for Ravenous 4 now. Thrilling stuff
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Post by mbt66 on Sept 7, 2019 12:01:40 GMT
I am hoping there will be some explanation and/or return The Wish Giver from Ravenous 2.
When I read the write up for L.E.G.E.N.D. I expected him to reappear, but he didn’t. However I still think he is involved it the return of the Ravenous.
However this set already has more than enough villains in it. Adding another would be villain could potentially be overkill!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 12:08:23 GMT
i think the Wish Giver, like the War Lord is deserving of its own story. I am of the opinion that long story arcs are brilliant but so are stand alone tales and a stand alone non four box set type of release would be good. The Ravenous are grotesque creatures and relistening has confirmed this for me.For some they are too simple a villain but for me they work superbly.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 7, 2019 12:11:22 GMT
I am hoping there will be some explanation and/or return The Wish Giver from Ravenous 2. When I read the write up for L.E.G.E.N.D. I expected him to reappear, but he didn’t. However I still think he is involved it the return of the Ravenous. However this set already has more than enough villains in it. Adding another would be villain could potentially be overkill! I kind of suspect the Wish Giver’s just meant to be a part of the seasonal trappings of that story, not really something to be explained later. I’m wondering if any of the stories from Ravenous 1 will come to have any relevance to the conclusion as atm it does seem like the first set was completely irrelevant to the arc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 12:18:57 GMT
I am hoping there will be some explanation and/or return The Wish Giver from Ravenous 2. When I read the write up for L.E.G.E.N.D. I expected him to reappear, but he didn’t. However I still think he is involved it the return of the Ravenous. However this set already has more than enough villains in it. Adding another would be villain could potentially be overkill! I kind of suspect the Wish Giver’s just meant to be a part of the seasonal trappings of that story, not really something to be explained later. I’m wondering if any of the stories from Ravenous 1 will come to have any relevance to the conclusion as atm it does seem like the first set was completely irrelevant to the arc. I think it was very much a teaser and a little diversion. sweets Kandyman etc all just tasters of what was to come perhaps and also freeing the writers for a more relaxing beginning after the heavily Arc(ed) Doom set.
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Post by mbt66 on Sept 7, 2019 12:32:54 GMT
I am hoping there will be some explanation and/or return The Wish Giver from Ravenous 2. When I read the write up for L.E.G.E.N.D. I expected him to reappear, but he didn’t. However I still think he is involved it the return of the Ravenous. However this set already has more than enough villains in it. Adding another would be villain could potentially be overkill! I kind of suspect the Wish Giver’s just meant to be a part of the seasonal trappings of that story, not really something to be explained later. I’m wondering if any of the stories from Ravenous 1 will come to have any relevance to the conclusion as atm it does seem like the first set was completely irrelevant to the arc. I think it has been said that we won’t find out the relevance of some of the earlier stories to the overall arc until the end...which is one of the reasons I thought that the Wish Giver could make another appearance. Was he played by Robert Whitelock? If so the actor is back for the final set.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 7, 2019 12:35:45 GMT
I kind of suspect the Wish Giver’s just meant to be a part of the seasonal trappings of that story, not really something to be explained later. I’m wondering if any of the stories from Ravenous 1 will come to have any relevance to the conclusion as atm it does seem like the first set was completely irrelevant to the arc. I think it has been said that we won’t find out the relevance of some of the earlier stories to the overall arc until the end...which is one of the reasons I thought that the Wish Giver could make another appearance. Was he played by Robert Whitelock? If so the actor is back for the final set. You might be onto something there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 13:38:06 GMT
I think it has been said that we won’t find out the relevance of some of the earlier stories to the overall arc until the end...which is one of the reasons I thought that the Wish Giver could make another appearance. Was he played by Robert Whitelock? If so the actor is back for the final set. You might be onto something there. That would add something a little extra into the Mix ...was this Beevers wish?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 14:32:12 GMT
Maybe the Wish Giver is one of the main antagonists for the next run of McGann boxset? Sort of would make sense considering how powerful he seemed. I mean I always thought as others have already said here that his presence was merely to add to the seasonal and fantastical feel of the Krampus two parter. But I could be wrong and this is merely a hint of things to come.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 14:53:09 GMT
Maybe the Wish Giver is one of the main antagonists for the next run of McGann boxset? Sort of would make sense considering how powerful he seemed. I mean I always thought as others have already said here that his presence was merely to add to the seasonal and fantastical feel of the Krampus two parter. But I could be wrong and this is merely a hint of things to come. Well as long as the resolution isn’t ... Oh well you can take your Wish back about the Ravenous I will be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 16:15:21 GMT
I kind of suspect the Wish Giver’s just meant to be a part of the seasonal trappings of that story, not really something to be explained later. I’m wondering if any of the stories from Ravenous 1 will come to have any relevance to the conclusion as atm it does seem like the first set was completely irrelevant to the arc. I think it has been said that we won’t find out the relevance of some of the earlier stories to the overall arc until the end...which is one of the reasons I thought that the Wish Giver could make another appearance. Was he played by Robert Whitelock? If so the actor is back for the final set. I noticed ROBERT Whitelock is one of the writers on the first of the Kaldor Robots set.
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