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Post by fingersmash on Apr 29, 2019 12:51:10 GMT
For the 'prime' timeline of our Avengers in 2023, it doesn’t. For the divergent-2014 timeline....probably quite a lot. I say there are now 3 divergent realities now i think. Loki's escape in 2012 - Minor changes 2014 - Holy crap the universe wont know what to do with itself Steve and Peggy from 1945 - Even bigger, possibly the best universe out there I want a look at that new 2014 timeline tbh. What changes? Also, a look at career woman Peggy and her mysterious husband on Disney+ wouldn't be horrible.
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Post by ollychops on Apr 29, 2019 17:03:44 GMT
I'm rather curious how Agents of SHIELD Season 6 is going to play out. Are they going to be post-Endgame, so the world is restored? Or are they going to play in the post-apocalyptic five year gap? The AoS showrunners have said that S6 takes place a year after S5, and they said that they didn't know how the IW cliffhanger was going to be resolved. I have a (horrible) feeling that it's not going to fit in with the Endgame time jump, unless they were bluffing at the time and not wanting to spoil the Endgame gap. I feel like the five year time gap is going to mess up the MCU. As a standalone film, the gap would have been fine, but as part of a continuing franchise, I think the time jump is going to cause a whole load of continuity errors in future MCU films/TV shows. {Spoiler} Look at Far From Home. All of Spidey's classmates are the same age, are we really meant to believe that ALL of them got snapped?
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Post by Digi on Apr 29, 2019 17:21:29 GMT
I'm rather curious how Agents of SHIELD Season 6 is going to play out. Are they going to be post-Endgame, so the world is restored? Or are they going to play in the post-apocalyptic five year gap? The AoS showrunners have said that S6 takes place a year after S5, and they said that they didn't know how the IW cliffhanger was going to be resolved. I have a (horrible) feeling that it's not going to fit in with the Endgame time jump, unless they were bluffing at the time and not wanting to spoil the Endgame gap. I would not be surprised if it were a bluff. It wouldn't be the first time they'd been granted access in order to do a tie-in, and the appearance of James D'Arcy in Endgame seems to at least suggest that the film and TV sides of things are on speaking terms. I feel like the five year time gap is going to mess up the MCU. As a standalone film, the gap would have been fine, but as part of a continuing franchise, I think the time jump is going to cause a whole load of continuity errors in future MCU films/TV shows. {Spoiler}Look at Far From Home. All of Spidey's classmates are the same age, are we really meant to believe that ALL of them got snapped? Eh, those are not things I'm worried about, personally. The MCU films are largely (though admittedly not completely) good at not mentioning what specific year they take place in, so at least as regards the movies, I don't think it's going to be much of an issue at all. The obvious question mark here is, as we're discussing, Agents of SHIELD, but I guess we'll find that out in two weeks. Regarding Spider-Man: Far From Home Spoiler tag is for the trailer only, I don't know anything beyond that about the movie In the trailer we see Peter (who we know got ashed), Ned (who we know from Endgame got ashed), MJ, and Flash. I think that's it? Four kids out of however many really doesn't seem like a whole lot. Sure it's conveniently coincidental for storytelling reasons, but it's not the end of the world IMO.
Alternatively, I wonder if maybe they might do the Guardians of the Galaxy 2 approach, and have it actually be set shortly after the Homecoming/pre-Infinity War, rather than post-Endgame. That way they'd go around the whole issue, and not have to address it till their third film?
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Post by stcoop on Apr 29, 2019 17:50:59 GMT
Loved it. Any complaints (where did 2014 Gamora go to?) would be pretty churlish.
At this point though, it's probably safer to consign Agents Of SHIELD to the alternate reality that 2014 Thanos came from, since it looks like they were expecting a Reset Button that never came.
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Post by stcoop on Apr 29, 2019 18:00:47 GMT
Two questions for anyone with sharper eyes than me:
1) Does Howard the Duck really appear in the final battle?
2) Is 2023 Carol final sporting her sash? I thought I saw it in one shot but couldn't see it again after that.
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Post by Digi on Apr 29, 2019 18:19:10 GMT
Loved it. Any complaints (where did 2014 Gamora go to?) would be pretty churlish. It has been pointed out to me elsewhere that Quill had her image up on the screen just before he was looking at star maps, when Thor came up to do the Asguardians of the Galaxy bit. I'm guessing that at least some of Guardians 3 will involve searching for her. My own personal, not-supported-by-any-inside-knowledge guess is that, because James Gunn has been so big on emphasizing family in the first two films, I'm thinking #3 will be big on bringing Gamora 'home,' to put the family back together. Two questions for anyone with sharper eyes than me: 1) Does Howard the Duck really appear in the final battle? 2) Is 2023 Carol final sporting her sash? I thought I saw it in one shot but couldn't see it again after that. 1) I did not see it myself, but according to this article, Howard the Duck does indeed appear. He's supposedly visible the very first time Wasp is on screen during the climactic battle, standing near the Ravagers (who I also did not see, when I saw the movie). 2) No idea, sorry....
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Post by muckypup on Apr 29, 2019 18:54:10 GMT
Ok........it a good movie.......but it’s two movies trying to be one........it don’t have time to breath or set its self out properly.......
I much preferred infinity war to this, way better story telling..........and when they all come back I could not help thinking perhaps Thanos was right all along......
After watching game of thrones this morning and all the hype surrounding it, felt endgame was a bit of an anticlimax......good just not great
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Post by mark687 on Apr 29, 2019 21:19:35 GMT
Two questions for anyone with sharper eyes than me: 1) Does Howard the Duck really appear in the final battle? 2) Is 2023 Carol final sporting her sash? I thought I saw it in one shot but couldn't see it again after that. 1. Very Briefly among the Guardians supporting cast bunch
2. She ends up looking the current comic version if that's any help.
Regards
mark687
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Post by mark687 on Apr 29, 2019 21:44:07 GMT
It was enjoyable but then they always are, and RDJ, CH and CM have always had a surprising level of conviction behind their performances to carry the films. Loved Smart Hulk. I can't be the only one to think "This would be so much easier if Nebula dons a Human disguise and searched the Quantum Realm for a Blue Box"? Black Widow and Nebula vital set pieces Jury is still out on Captain Marvel like Peter Quill I just don't like her but their films weren't awful, Regards mark687
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Post by fingersmash on Apr 29, 2019 23:09:44 GMT
It was enjoyable but then they always are, and RDJ, CH and CM have always had a surprising level of conviction behind their performances to carry the films. Loved Smart Hulk. I can't be the only one to think "This would be so much easier if Nebula dons a Human disguise and searched the Quantum Realm for a Blue Box"? Black Widow and Nebula vital set pieces Jury is still out on Captain Marvel like Peter Quill I just don't like her but their films weren't awful, Regards mark687 I find Carol infinitely more likable than Quill. Maybe it's just me. I find Carol likable but flawed and Quill just plain obnoxious. Granted, I also think Chris Pratt has all the charisma of a rotten banana so take from that what you will.
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Post by Jeedai on Apr 29, 2019 23:41:50 GMT
The AoS showrunners have said that S6 takes place a year after S5, and they said that they didn't know how the IW cliffhanger was going to be resolved. I have a (horrible) feeling that it's not going to fit in with the Endgame time jump, unless they were bluffing at the time and not wanting to spoil the Endgame gap. I feel like the five year time gap is going to mess up the MCU. As a standalone film, the gap would have been fine, but as part of a continuing franchise, I think the time jump is going to cause a whole load of continuity errors in future MCU films/TV shows. At this point though, it's probably safer to consign Agents Of SHIELD to the alternate reality that 2014 Thanos came from, since it looks like they were expecting a Reset Button that never came. Agents Of Shield has repeatedly gone out of its way to connect itself to the movies. "HEY! LOOK OVER HERE! IT'S US! WE KEPT THE FIRST HELICARRIER SAFE FOR YOU! DO YOU LOVE US YET, DAD?" I dont see that stopping. The more likely thing they'll do is film a quickie two of three minute scene or flashback to catch the series timeline back up with the movie one. Or maybe a loop in some dialogue where someone proposes that the mystery man who looks like Coulson could be a side-effect of the un-dusting. Something Professor Hulk didn't get quite right. I say there are now 3 divergent realities now i think. Loki's escape in 2012 - Minor changes 2014 - Holy crap the universe wont know what to do with itself Steve and Peggy from 1945 - Even bigger, possibly the best universe out there Alt-2013: At the very least, Frigga has been clued in on the following: 1) She's about to die 2) Someone is going to be messing with her reality's Infinity Stones in the near future 3) Thor's going to lose an eye 4) Thor is dealing with a massive guilt and confidence issues, so something's coming that is HUGE AND UGLY and he couldn't stop it 5) #4 and #3 are possibly connected as Thor gets very deflective when she asks about his fake eye Iffy) Depending on how well Frigga knew Hela, or what kind of 'sight' Frigga's using in the scenes with Thor, a missing eye clue of Hela's upcoming return. Does Frigga think Hela would deliberately inflict Odin's wound onto his chosen heir/ her replacement? Frigga's just as capable as Loki (if not moreso) of faking her death, even faking being killed in plain view of others as her Prime Universe counterpart was). After which she could then lay low and look into doing something about the bad future she knows is coming. If she could turn back Loki to her side (His interactions with her in The Dark World show he still cares for her at that point, even if he wont admit), she could recruit him to be an Agent Of Asgard. If not prevent Loki usurping Odin, thereby preventing Ragnarok. Basically, if this version of Frigga chooses not to accept her fate, then her reality's Thanos could end up with an intact and fully prepared Asgard between him and the Space Stone if not more. [/quote]
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Post by Digi on Apr 30, 2019 0:29:14 GMT
^ That's kind of what I'm speculating will happen. Maybe Coulson got dusted at the moment of his death, which screwed something up. So when he returns, he's someone/something else.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 30, 2019 11:18:40 GMT
I'd heard that as well. And it could be true, would just create some ickiness between him and Sharon in Civil War. Either way Bucky knew what he was going to do I was thinking about that and...maybe not? I know there was the "Aunt Peggy" thing from Sharon's eulogy at her funeral in Civil War, but we know from the movies that Steve has no siblings, and from Agent Carter (the show, not the One-Shot) that Peggy's only brother died in the war. So there is no way that Sharon could be Peggy's/Steve's niece, either biologically or adoptive. Meaning it could only really have been a friendly name, like how one of my good friends is trying to get his kid to call me Uncle Rob. It still poses the issue of how young Sharon could've been so friendly with Peggy but never met her husband, but at least the incestuous-ick is off the table! That's true. It could either be a friend of the family thing. Like calling your dad's best mate Uncle or its a second third cousin thing
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Post by stcoop on Apr 30, 2019 20:03:04 GMT
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Post by Digi on Apr 30, 2019 20:25:15 GMT
That's a bit to chew on, isn't it?!
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Post by fingersmash on Apr 30, 2019 22:31:16 GMT
That's a bit to chew on, isn't it?! I mean they kind of explain as much in the movie? Twice over in fact. Once when Banner is talking about changing time and again when The Ancient One is talking about giving Banner the Time Stone. It's a separate universe and a separate timeline. The rules of time travel are clearly said and adhered to.
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Post by Digi on Apr 30, 2019 22:34:33 GMT
That's a bit to chew on, isn't it?! I mean they kind of explain as much in the movie? Twice over in fact. Once when Banner is talking about changing time and again when The Ancient One is talking about giving Banner the Time Stone. It's a separate universe and a separate timeline. The rules of time travel are clearly said and adhered to. Yes you're right...I meant more with respect to what they had to say about Sam and the shield.
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Post by fingersmash on May 1, 2019 1:19:27 GMT
I mean they kind of explain as much in the movie? Twice over in fact. Once when Banner is talking about changing time and again when The Ancient One is talking about giving Banner the Time Stone. It's a separate universe and a separate timeline. The rules of time travel are clearly said and adhered to. Yes you're right...I meant more with respect to what they had to say about Sam and the shield. Oh yeah. I like the thought of that. What I really want to know is what happened to Mjolnir. Did Steve use it at all?
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Post by constonks on May 2, 2019 5:06:33 GMT
Cap's trip to Vormir must have been...interesting. Yeah, I was wondering about that too. Admittedly he might have just skipped returning the Soul and Power Stones to that reality; there was no putting that timeline back on track!
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