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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 18, 2019 8:10:51 GMT
This is currently my favourite story so far this year, a tense, suspenseful, emotional audio drama woth great performances by the cast, Andrew Smiths script just engages the listener from start to finish & the Daleks are at there devious best.
5/5
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Post by Whovitt on Aug 18, 2019 14:07:01 GMT
I thoroughly enjoyed this one! I haven't heard The Dalek Occupation of Winter so I can't make the comparisons, but I thought some of the ideas in this were great. Even though it had a couple of predictable plot points, they don't detract from the story's rating overall.
(Also, sorry for not including a poll when I made the thread. I'll add one now)
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 18, 2019 15:17:27 GMT
Well, this is rather good, isn't it? I agree with everybody on here. Very enjoyable and Colin and Nicola are as great as we have come to expect. I just love these two.
Somebody on here had mentioned that for him/ her Colin sounded a bit tired and more like his age of late, but somehow, I cannot really hear that from his performance. Maybe I am too much of a fan girl to be able to hear this? Not sure.
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 18, 2019 15:52:01 GMT
Somebody on here had mentioned that for him/ her Colin sounded a bit tired and more like his age of late, but somehow, I cannot really hear that from his performance. Maybe I am too much of a fan girl to be able to hear this? Not sure. I thought that in either Legacy of Time or Memories of a Tyrant (can't quite remember which), Colin sounded a tiny bit hoarse like he might have had a touch of sore throat, but I didn't hear that in Emissary of the Daleks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 19:13:50 GMT
I'm only a few minutes in yet, but I wanted to ask: did anyone else get a strong Tripods vibe? It's rather delightful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 21:58:16 GMT
I'm only a few minutes in yet, but I wanted to ask: did anyone else get a strong Tripods vibe? It's rather delightful. You've made me want to listen to it again now!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 5:17:20 GMT
Well worth it. Emissary of the Daleks is tribute to how similar premises can breed completely different results. A fun action-adventure romp that hits all the Nation mainstays -- slave mines, interrogations, a rare mineral, collaborators, etc. -- without any of it feeling stale. The Doctor and Peri feel to be in the prime of their lives. I can see the Occupation of Winter influences, but there's more than a touch of Day of the Daleks to this as well. Particularly in exploring how Daleks devastate everything. Scars that extend as wide as to engulf cities and narrow as to slice apart families. There's a real sense of energy and Invasion of Earth-style scope to the proceedings. Getting bigger and bigger as the story rolls on. This trilogy is shaping up to be a fantastic exercise in everything old being new once more. It's a real joy to have this team back again.
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Post by slithe on Aug 19, 2019 11:57:10 GMT
Well worth it. Emissary of the Daleks is tribute to how similar premises can breed completely different results. A fun action-adventure romp that hits all the Nation mainstays -- slave mines, interrogations, a rare mineral, collaborators, etc. -- without any of it feeling stale. The Doctor and Peri feel to be in the prime of their lives. I can see the Occupation of Winter influences, but there's more than a touch of Day of the Daleks to this as well. Particularly in exploring how Daleks devastate everything. Scars that extend as wide as to engulf cities and narrow as to slice apart families. There's a real sense of energy and Invasion of Earth-style scope to the proceedings. Getting bigger and bigger as the story rolls on. This trilogy is shaping up to be a fantastic exercise in everything old being new once more. It's a real joy to have this team back again. Entirely agree with this! It is a mixture of something old and something new. It is entirely the approach that should have been adopted by the production team in the 1980s and it would have paid dividends. Whilst there is a lot of stuff that is familiar and it echoes previous stories (notably Day of the Daleks and the Dalek Invasion of Earth), it is not simply a re-run of these previous stories or so continuity heavy that it turns into a leaden plot. Whilst I try to re-listen to stories, I usually do this after a few months to allow for my initial thoughts to subside a bit. I have just finished re-listening to this again after a couple of days and it still stands up as a strong piece of drama. Having listened to the story the first time, you can pick up 'subtle' clues that were missed on an initial hearing - the 'distrust' of Aldo by his rebel friends at the start, the conflicted Carmen Rega (and her acts of rebellion - such as telling the Doctor the 'history' of Omnia), the paranoia and distrust between the different rebel groups. I also didn't realise that Bruce Alexander was in this until I looked at the credits! Although is character is a little bit 2D (and the 'twist' is obvious), he does put in a good performance. All the guest cast are good in this, which really does make for a great production. I have not heard The Dalek Occupation of Winter either, but even if they do overlap somewhat, then I am willing to excuse that on the grounds that the Daleks themselves are hardly that inventive either and will 'reuse' successful schemes. Usually, the better Dalek stories have the creatures get others to do their bidding and they sit quietly in the background and wait (often to exploit the weaknesses of others).
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Post by shallacatop on Aug 19, 2019 14:01:16 GMT
I thought this one was great. By synopsis alone, Emissary of the Daleks does sound similar to The Dalek Occupation of Winter. When listening, they're different enough to both be great in their own right.
The Dalek Occupation of Winter is bleak and revels in that atmosphere. Emissary of the Dalek differs because there's a glimmer of hope offered throughout and spends a good chunk of its running time devoted to its guest characters, showing the different characters react in this Dalek occupied world and how they have adjusted to their new life. The characters and their motives are rounded, as is the world building of Omnia.
The real highlight of the story for me was the Supreme Dalek. Barking orders left, right and centre, all of them with malicious intent. Properly nasty with a brilliantly bass heavy voice. Colin and Nicola are on fine form too and hearing them back together is lovely.
A strong trilogy so far, roll on the next installment!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:12:03 GMT
Loved it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 6:02:48 GMT
Just about to listen this story....given that its getting positive reviews am looking forward to it these stories will warm me up for the Peri Box set.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 6:23:54 GMT
On the first episode and i have to say this is a less annoying American accent from Peri 🤪😂
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 24, 2019 7:05:15 GMT
On the first episode and i have to say this is a less annoying American accent from Peri 🤪😂 I never found Nicola‘s false accent to be annoying. I know it is kind of an inside joke for fans, but, well, Big Finish has done much worse on this front, and these occasions made even me, as a non native speaker, gringe in agony.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 7:06:57 GMT
On the first episode and i have to say this is a less annoying American accent from Peri 🤪😂 I never found Nicola‘s false accent to be annoying. I know it is kind of an inside joke for fans, but, well, Big Finish has done much worse on this front, and these occasions made even me, as a non native speaker, gringe in agony. I guess knowing Nicolas real voice lol which I prefer hearing her as an American knowing she isn’t hahaha was annoying to me but this version is lovely and it is mellower
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Post by slithe on Aug 31, 2019 8:53:00 GMT
Good story despite being exposition heavy near end of episode 3. A joy to hear Colin and Nicola as always. Would have liked more focus on the emotional and ethical conflict of the emissary given the title. Could have been really amazing if it went here instead of exploring vitanium in so much depth. Interesting point... I think they needed the Vitanium angle as a *way* of resolving the plot. A successful rebellion inspired by the Doctor would have led to the punishment described by the Dalek Supreme, albeit at a later date after he had left in the TARDIS. There would be mass exterminations and the, eventual, appointment of a new Emissary. The *total* defeat of the Daleks using the Vitanium is a way around this and the Doctor knows it. Carmen is quite well scripted as a conflicted soul - it is clear she is not comfortable working with the Daleks and the involvement of her son in the rebellion is a real issue for her. Her betrayal of the Daleks at the end of Part 3 is probably to be expected (and not as good as the Controller in Day of the Daleks - who can forget his line 'Who knows? I may have helped to exterminate you!') and I am not so sure that the switch from her to collaborator to hero is that credible. I think it is impressive that Smith leaves the ending unresolved here. True, the Daleks are finished but it is far from the end of the problems for Omnia. Civil War looms and one wonders if the populace will, in the end, come to see the Dalek occupation as more peaceful than the chaos that followed it (ironically proving Rega and the Daleks right!)
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Post by mark687 on Sept 1, 2019 10:07:05 GMT
Extended Extra DL and PDF Script are available for MR Subscribers in their Accounts
Regards
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Post by Who Review on Sept 5, 2019 12:37:37 GMT
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Post by nottenst on Sept 5, 2019 17:48:31 GMT
Good story despite being exposition heavy near end of episode 3. A joy to hear Colin and Nicola as always. Would have liked more focus on the emotional and ethical conflict of the emissary given the title. Could have been really amazing if it went here instead of exploring vitanium in so much depth. Interesting point... I think they needed the Vitanium angle as a *way* of resolving the plot. A successful rebellion inspired by the Doctor would have led to the punishment described by the Dalek Supreme, albeit at a later date after he had left in the TARDIS. There would be mass exterminations and the, eventual, appointment of a new Emissary. The *total* defeat of the Daleks using the Vitanium is a way around this and the Doctor knows it. Carmen is quite well scripted as a conflicted soul - it is clear she is not comfortable working with the Daleks and the involvement of her son in the rebellion is a real issue for her. Her betrayal of the Daleks at the end of Part 3 is probably to be expected (and not as good as the Controller in Day of the Daleks - who can forget his line 'Who knows? I may have helped to exterminate you!') and I am not so sure that the switch from her to collaborator to hero is that credible. I think it is impressive that Smith leaves the ending unresolved here. True, the Daleks are finished but it is far from the end of the problems for Omnia. Civil War looms and one wonders if the populace will, in the end, come to see the Dalek occupation as more peaceful than the chaos that followed it (ironically proving Rega and the Daleks right!) Finished this yesterday. Quite a good story and for some time Carmen did save Omnia before the Doctor arrived. One of her problems was not realizing that the Vitanium could be the seed of a successful rebellion. The information was there in the lab. Conventional methods just could not win this battle as the Daleks would just wipe out a large % in retaliation. What I would have liked to have seen was some Omnian scientist realizing this before The Doctor did. That would have been an interesting character to have included in the story. The characters could have been at that wimpy "rebellion" meeting that Peri attended where just about everyone was wiped out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 18:17:32 GMT
Interesting point... I think they needed the Vitanium angle as a *way* of resolving the plot. A successful rebellion inspired by the Doctor would have led to the punishment described by the Dalek Supreme, albeit at a later date after he had left in the TARDIS. There would be mass exterminations and the, eventual, appointment of a new Emissary. The *total* defeat of the Daleks using the Vitanium is a way around this and the Doctor knows it. Carmen is quite well scripted as a conflicted soul - it is clear she is not comfortable working with the Daleks and the involvement of her son in the rebellion is a real issue for her. Her betrayal of the Daleks at the end of Part 3 is probably to be expected (and not as good as the Controller in Day of the Daleks - who can forget his line 'Who knows? I may have helped to exterminate you!') and I am not so sure that the switch from her to collaborator to hero is that credible. I think it is impressive that Smith leaves the ending unresolved here. True, the Daleks are finished but it is far from the end of the problems for Omnia. Civil War looms and one wonders if the populace will, in the end, come to see the Dalek occupation as more peaceful than the chaos that followed it (ironically proving Rega and the Daleks right!) Finished this yesterday. Quite a good story and for some time Carmen did save Omnia before the Doctor arrived. One of her problems was not realizing that the Vitanium could be the seed of a successful rebellion. The information was there in the lab. Conventional methods just could not win this battle as the Daleks would just wipe out a large % in retaliation. What I would have liked to have seen was some Omnian scientist realizing this before The Doctor did. That would have been an interesting character to have included in the story. The characters could have been at that wimpy "rebellion" meeting that Peri attended where just about everyone was wiped out. Interesting that it's set when it is as, once the Daleks Civil War kicks off, vitanium becomes the perfect weapon to use against opposing Dalek taskforces. Renegade or Imperial. Capable of only being processed by those planetside. In a curious twist of fate, the Omnians might end up selling it off to their former oppressors so they can wipe one another out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 14:41:09 GMT
Sorry, I thought this was really boring.
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