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Chancellery Guard
It's tangerine....not orange
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Post by ljwilson on Jan 21, 2020 12:11:00 GMT
My fantasy release is not very fantasy-esq. Just give me the following:
A remote research facility A mad scientist A dubious set of characters Secretive goings-on A snow storm which means none can leave A murder or two Red Herrings which are littered throughout A twist near the end!
That will do for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 12:56:36 GMT
Oh, definitely, yeah. Particularly given that Torchwood wasn't the only organisation with a sour nose towards UNIT. The story that originally sparked this idea, The Devil Goblins of Neptune, but UNIT up against the American CIA who had their own vested interests in ensuring they didn't suceed. Another particularly bad group were Department C19. They originally stemmed from Countermeasures, but you wouldn't know it to look at them by the Third Doctor's time. They were tasked with the cover-up and whitewash of alien invasions. Dodgy work in and of itself, but problem was that they were compromised (by the Pale Man and the Master, respectively). They were the people, through their methods, who convinced Liz to resign because they -- for all intents and purposes -- had the same superiors as UNIT. There's absolute tonnes to unpack there. Yeah. Yeah, after some thought, you're right. I wouldn't mind a one-off series that just chucks everything it can into it. A big chunk of quality that can sit proudly as a definitive edition of the lead-in. I would really like a story to explore how all these secret organisations get along. Say a spaceship crashes in England in the 1970s, who takes responsibility for it? UNIT and Torchwood both have the same remit of protecting UK from alien incursions so both have a claim to crash site. C19 is responsible for covering it up but also maintains the Vault, which is meant to store alien tech such as crashed spaceships, so should probably take possession of it, but the Forge and Torchwood would both probably want it for them to study. ICMG is active again under some sort of official mandate in 1970s, so where do they fit in? Bureaucratic nightmare. There is mention of a Ministry of Security in The Claws of Axos novelisation. They're an initiative to bring every agency that affect Britain under one legislative roof. Chinn is a part of it. He was deliberately sent in to... muddy the waters, with regard to UNIT's international status (as their authority stems primarily from Geneva, not London). I wonder if each agency has to bid for government contracts or if it's a bit more civilised than that? Jurisdiction does seem to play a part with who gets what. I imagine that on a bureaucratic basis as soon as the Doctor says something to the tune of "global implications", it automatically becomes a UNIT operation. That's got to leave a bit of resentment with some other organisations, so... Maybe they keep their own operations under wraps for as long as is reasonably possible. Keep to themselves, solve the issue, take the credit. Classified information is only shared on a need to know basis. If C19 recovered an alien spacecraft, both Torchwood and the Forge would either have to state a case for examination or agree to share the information jointly. ICMG seem to exist on an impermanent probationary basis, so they might've been an attempt at a more controllable version of UNIT. Something to gently wedge into that niche and force them out, but it never took.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 21, 2020 13:00:48 GMT
Does my aging mind fail me, but did Mary leave the doctor at the end of the trilogy. Correct. Actually she didnt. She planned to, then there's an end credits scene where he plans to take her somewhere else first
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Post by Digi on Jan 21, 2020 13:02:39 GMT
Actually she didnt. She planned to, then there's an end credits scene where he plans to take her somewhere else first Seems my "aging mind" is also failing me, then
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 21, 2020 13:11:23 GMT
Actually she didnt. She planned to, then there's an end credits scene where he plans to take her somewhere else first Seems my "aging mind" is also failing me, then Lol dont worry. When it comes to 8, it seems to stick more lol
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Post by sherlock on Jan 21, 2020 19:21:54 GMT
I would really like a story to explore how all these secret organisations get along. Say a spaceship crashes in England in the 1970s, who takes responsibility for it? UNIT and Torchwood both have the same remit of protecting UK from alien incursions so both have a claim to crash site. C19 is responsible for covering it up but also maintains the Vault, which is meant to store alien tech such as crashed spaceships, so should probably take possession of it, but the Forge and Torchwood would both probably want it for them to study. ICMG is active again under some sort of official mandate in 1970s, so where do they fit in? Bureaucratic nightmare. There is mention of a Ministry of Security in The Claws of Axos novelisation. They're an initiative to bring every agency that affect Britain under one legislative roof. Chinn is a part of it. He was deliberately sent in to... muddy the waters, with regard to UNIT's international status (as their authority stems primarily from Geneva, not London). I wonder if each agency has to bid for government contracts or if it's a bit more civilised than that? Jurisdiction does seem to play a part with who gets what. I imagine that on a bureaucratic basis as soon as the Doctor says something to the tune of "global implications", it automatically becomes a UNIT operation. That's got to leave a bit of resentment with some other organisations, so... Maybe they keep their own operations under wraps for as long as is reasonably possible. Keep to themselves, solve the issue, take the credit. Classified information is only shared on a need to know basis. If C19 recovered an alien spacecraft, both Torchwood and the Forge would either have to state a case for examination or agree to share the information jointly. ICMG seem to exist on an impermanent probationary basis, so they might've been an attempt at a more controllable version of UNIT. Something to gently wedge into that niche and force them out, but it never took. Ooh a Ministry of Security...that’s given me an idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 19:35:08 GMT
I want a multi-Doctor story but they are all 4th Doctors!
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 21, 2020 20:28:39 GMT
I want a multi-Doctor story but they are all 4th Doctors! This could actually work...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 20:33:25 GMT
I want a multi-Doctor story but they are all 4th Doctors! This could actually work... We got a taste of it in Legacy Of Time didn't we? The Tom from both timelines in the last story interact, or am I making that up?
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Post by timegirl on Jan 21, 2020 22:54:38 GMT
Story where 10 visits an alternate timeline where he decided to stay John Smith at the end of Human Nature/Family of Blood and 10 sees more of the life he would have had if had he stayed human and the impact it would have. May involve 10 and John Smith having to impersonate each other either to stop an alien threat or for other reasons 🤔
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 22, 2020 1:13:14 GMT
This has been on my mind for ages, but I'd like to see an exiled Third Doctor on a bit of globetrotting that really analysed his role in UNIT. His station as an unreliably reliable scientific advisor that the Brigadier has to justify month-by-month to his superiors. A mission to 1970s Angolan beaches, United Nations scientific conferences in Switzerland or Greece under the Seven Years junto that was operating until '74. Actually... Have we had the Third Doctor ever visit Geneva? That could be a story in and of itself. What's an impossible one... A Michael Jayston led Valeyard series? Focussing on his powermongering on Gallifrey leading up to Trial (and encounters with the Master via Glitz whenever he tries going after something juicy in the wider galaxy). Or a continuation of his attempts to kill Sixie and Frobisher that started in the PDAs. A different kind of attempt each week, subtle or bombastic, but all of them Mr Zimmerman's agents. You know..I always wondered why Geneva never showed much interest in the Doctor and the TARDIS. Surely having an extra terrestrial in their employ should have roused the curiosity of UNIT's other scientists and led to the Doctor being shipped off to gods know where for testing/experimentation, not to mention getting their hands on a working Time Machine (after the events of The Three Doctors of course). Unless...my illustrious namesake never actually told them the truth...🤔🤔🤔🤔 I would hold that he had a new identity cooked up for the Doctor because of what Torchwood was up to. The Brig met the Doctor while he was just a Colonel and after The Invasion I’m guessing that Torchwood may have sent someone along to ask some questions about the Doctor that may have put his hackles up a little so when 3 turns up in Spearhead the Brig makes a point of asking what name he wants to go by so that he just has to put a name in a lot of blank forms. It’s also possibly a reason why the Brigadier might be making a fuss about budget requisitions in a couple of stories because people in Geneva are asking questions about budgets because Torchwood have got their feelers out in regards to suppliers of “exotic” tech and are making inquiries about Who in UNIT is using it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 3:55:38 GMT
You know..I always wondered why Geneva never showed much interest in the Doctor and the TARDIS. Surely having an extra terrestrial in their employ should have roused the curiosity of UNIT's other scientists and led to the Doctor being shipped off to gods know where for testing/experimentation, not to mention getting their hands on a working Time Machine (after the events of The Three Doctors of course). Unless...my illustrious namesake never actually told them the truth...🤔🤔🤔🤔 I would hold that he had a new identity cooked up for the Doctor because of what Torchwood was up to. The Brig met the Doctor while he was just a Colonel and after The Invasion I’m guessing that Torchwood may have sent someone along to ask some questions about the Doctor that may have put his hackles up a little so when 3 turns up in Spearhead the Brig makes a point of asking what name he wants to go by so that he just has to put a name in a lot of blank forms. It’s also possibly a reason why the Brigadier might be making a fuss about budget requisitions in a couple of stories because people in Geneva are asking questions about budgets because Torchwood have got their feelers out in regards to suppliers of “exotic” tech and are making inquiries about Who in UNIT is using it.Yeah, a lot of those requests have to funnel back to "Dr John Smith" after a certain point... A lot, given how regularly the Doctor's involvement is needed. The Brigadier likely has to justify the repeated expenditure with something a bit more tangible for his superiors. The Nestene energy sphere loaned to the National Space Museum in Terror of the Autons being the most prominent. Parts and equipment from as far off as Japan have ended up in the Doctor's inventions, some of which -- like the electroshock neutraliser from Spearhead -- kept intact in storage for decades after the fact. The Doctor did seem rather keen to boil away the fragmentation grenade in Terror, so I wonder if it wasn't the first time something of his was planned to be co-opted without his knowledge. Kind of makes you wonder how the TARDIS is justified in that bureaucratic sphere and why it didn't seem to draw too much attention over those years.
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 22, 2020 4:36:07 GMT
I would hold that he had a new identity cooked up for the Doctor because of what Torchwood was up to. The Brig met the Doctor while he was just a Colonel and after The Invasion I’m guessing that Torchwood may have sent someone along to ask some questions about the Doctor that may have put his hackles up a little so when 3 turns up in Spearhead the Brig makes a point of asking what name he wants to go by so that he just has to put a name in a lot of blank forms. It’s also possibly a reason why the Brigadier might be making a fuss about budget requisitions in a couple of stories because people in Geneva are asking questions about budgets because Torchwood have got their feelers out in regards to suppliers of “exotic” tech and are making inquiries about Who in UNIT is using it.Yeah, a lot of those requests have to funnel back to "Dr John Smith" after a certain point... A lot, given how regularly the Doctor's involvement is needed. The Brigadier likely has to justify the repeated expenditure with something a bit more tangible for his superiors. The Nestene energy sphere loaned to the National Space Museum in Terror of the Autons being the most prominent. Parts and equipment from as far off as Japan have ended up in the Doctor's inventions, some of which -- like the electroshock neutraliser from Spearhead -- kept intact in storage for decades after the fact. The Doctor did seem rather keen to boil away the fragmentation grenade in Terror, so I wonder if it wasn't the first time something of his was planned to be co-opted without his knowledge. Kind of makes you wonder how the TARDIS is justified in that bureaucratic sphere and why it didn't seem to draw too much attention over those years. That said, there's also a lot of ordinary gear that 3 improvises with, kind of like how Tiffany makes herself the various Shambles' in the Discworld series. (UNIT auditor: 3 portable atomic generators, replacement parts for a particle accelerator, 2 laser cannons, 17 drums of copper wire, 12 bags of feathers, 5 corkscrews and a big ball of twine? What is Smith doing over there? Does he think we're made of string?) I wonder if the R&D boys have reverse-engineered any of the baubles in the Black Archive for commercial purposes? There's a series I'd like to hear: Tactical Ordinance Terrestrial Application Liaison United Intelligence Taskforce. "In this episode, the team from TOTALUNIT release their Digital Assistant onto the market: 'BOSS, I'd like to hear something soothing after a hard day at work.' 'Please put on the headphones and listen to my voice...'"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 10:08:07 GMT
Yeah, a lot of those requests have to funnel back to "Dr John Smith" after a certain point... A lot, given how regularly the Doctor's involvement is needed. The Brigadier likely has to justify the repeated expenditure with something a bit more tangible for his superiors. The Nestene energy sphere loaned to the National Space Museum in Terror of the Autons being the most prominent. Parts and equipment from as far off as Japan have ended up in the Doctor's inventions, some of which -- like the electroshock neutraliser from Spearhead -- kept intact in storage for decades after the fact. The Doctor did seem rather keen to boil away the fragmentation grenade in Terror, so I wonder if it wasn't the first time something of his was planned to be co-opted without his knowledge. Kind of makes you wonder how the TARDIS is justified in that bureaucratic sphere and why it didn't seem to draw too much attention over those years. That said, there's also a lot of ordinary gear that 3 improvises with, kind of like how Tiffany makes herself the various Shambles' in the Discworld series. (UNIT auditor: 3 portable atomic generators, replacement parts for a particle accelerator, 2 laser cannons, 17 drums of copper wire, 12 bags of feathers, 5 corkscrews and a big ball of twine? What is Smith doing over there? Does he think we're made of string?) I wonder if the R&D boys have reverse-engineered any of the baubles in the Black Archive for commercial purposes? There's a series I'd like to hear: Tactical Ordinance Terrestrial Application Liaison United Intelligence Taskforce. "In this episode, the team from TOTALUNIT release their Digital Assistant onto the market: 'BOSS, I'd like to hear something soothing after a hard day at work.' 'Please put on the headphones and listen to my voice...'" Oh, that's an interesting idea. It's probably in their contract that they shouldn't (something, something treason something), but it's not hard to see one of the more unscrupulous R&D chaps look at their upcoming retirement, a International Electromatic transistor and go: There's a black market opportunity here I'm refusing to look at...
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Post by BHTvsTFC on Jan 23, 2020 9:20:15 GMT
My fantasy for the Third Doctor Adventures were for a series of new stories either set between season 7 where he officially leaves UNIT and gets that cottage in the country to repair the TARDIS and becomes a member of their community - all new cast - before at some point being enticed back to UNIT. Another run of stories more traditional set between season 10 and 11 where he gets a new companion (or two) and goes off travelling again - UNIT appearing intermittently. That said the secondment idea is equally promising.
I am also reading the New Adventure Happy Endings and thinking how easy this would actually be to adapt. If Big Finish are thinking of wrapping up the Benny audios as has been hinted a double release called Happy Endings and Happy Endings 2 would be a really good way to do it. As for the novel adaptation you have so many actors who regularly work for Big Finish. Add in Culshaw as the Brig and Nick as Holmes and a few other of the repertoire and it could feasibly be made. Happy Endings 2 could be anoher celebratory look at the character with appearances from all up and down Benny's timeline - I want to hear Thomas Grant in a play again - I love his voice.
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Post by timegirl on Feb 7, 2020 13:41:26 GMT
A story about Ian and Barbra selling their story as a script for the movie Doctor Who and the Daleks. It would feature them and the Doctor visiting the set and consulting them on certain aspects of their story. The Doctor would have fun spending time with Peter Cushing and take the cast and crew for a trip in the TARDIS😀
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 7, 2020 15:50:41 GMT
A story about Ian and Barbra selling their story as a script for the movie Doctor Who and the Daleks. It would feature them and the Doctor visiting the set and consulting them on certain aspects of their story. The Doctor would have fun spending time with Peter Cushing and take the cast and crew for a trip in the TARDIS😀 Very meta but would be fun!!
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Post by timegirl on Feb 10, 2020 19:49:05 GMT
Don’t worry it wouldn’t have that much hanky panky, just close to the same level of romance Who normally has😉 Its less about hanky panky so much as 12 feeling more confident in his own skin to express his feelings toward Clara(trying to relate on an emotional level). In fact I wasn’t even going to have them kiss at all ( well maybe one towards the end but only after he changes back into his normal self as a big screw you to ageism 😉). The majority would be more fish out of water character exploration, so I think if it ever does get made one day I don’t think you would need to worry about there being any over the top hanky panky 😉 I hope I could convince Big Finish and Capaldi to do it on day!😀 I would only want them to do it if it was Peter playing both regular and younger 12🤔😊you just know he could pull something like that off! I keep the fingers crossed. Do you have any crazy out there ideas that you would want to pitch to big finish if you had the chance?😀
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 10, 2020 20:56:30 GMT
I keep the fingers crossed. Do you have any crazy out there ideas that you would want to pitch to big finish if you had the chance?😀 I am usually happy with all the crazy ideas other people are having (well, outside my own fantasy world and stories which will probably never see the light of day since I am to insecure to have the guts to get them published). However, some things I would like to see, one of them a quiet day in the Tardis where the Doctor and the companions just do a spring clean and banter with each other. And another thing, as Wolfie and I had been discussion in the What Who are you watching thread- bring back the Androgums as a terrifying monster played straight. Oh, and having the Doctor and companions join in the festivities after one of the World's most wonderful peaceful revolutions, with the will of the people overthrowing a brutal dictatorship- the German Unification. But I guess that would be too much to ask for a British show.
I know, not exactly crazy ideas. I might be getting old.
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Post by timegirl on Feb 10, 2020 21:06:50 GMT
Do you have any crazy out there ideas that you would want to pitch to big finish if you had the chance?😀 I am usually happy with all the crazy ideas other people are having (well, outside my own fantasy world and stories which will probably never see the light of day since I am to insecure to have the guts to get them published). However, some things I would like to see, one of them a quiet day in the Tardis where the Doctor and the companions just do a spring clean and banter with each other. And another thing, as Wolfie and I had been discussion in the What Who are you watching thread- bring back the Androgums as a terrifying monster played straight. Oh, and having the Doctor and companions join in the festivities after one of the World's most wonderful peaceful revolutions, with the will of the people overthrowing a brutal dictatorship- the German Unification. But I guess that would be too much to ask for a British show.
I know, not exactly crazy ideas. I might be getting old. I think that they are brilliant ideas😀 you should seriously consider pitching at least one of them as a short trip! Don’t sell yourself short! Everyone has a story inside them!😊
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