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Post by dangerwillrobinson on Sept 29, 2019 23:02:23 GMT
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 30, 2019 0:40:06 GMT
I throughly enjoyed that although it totally makes me want full cast 12 adventures with Capaldi. That season of 12 at St. Luke’s was far too short and this story very much wants me to hear from from that period. Overall Dudman did a good job of mimicking Capaldi’s phrasing and inflections. Strong release.
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Post by axelotl38 on Sept 30, 2019 1:42:38 GMT
Overall a really fun Short Trip. Richards did well to capture the 12th Doctor, and the dialogue felt very true (though he did use my personal 12th Doctor pet peeve and use the phrase Pudding Brains but oh well). Story itself took a bit of an odd turn but it works well and utilises the idea of sound recordings well.
Dudman did a really good job as well. Certainly 12 is his weakest but after 5 minutes you honestly forget it's not Capaldi and get absorbed. No fears for the 12th Doctor Chronicles!
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Post by barnabaslives on Sept 30, 2019 4:03:43 GMT
Cons: I think maybe Jake doesn't have quite the handle on 12 that he does with 10 and 11 which are both remarkable. I think the accent seemed a bit inconsistent here and it could have benefited from a firmer grip on the dynamics of the 12th Doctor speaking to make up for it, and it kind of took me out of the story in a number of places as it seemed to go back and forth between sounding a good take on the 12th Doctor and sounding like Jake Dudman is if he kept regenerating into Jake. :-)
Pros: I'm sure he'll grow into it easily enough, I could compare with Tim Treloar who I think over time has really got the 3rd Doctor's dynamics down so even if you hit a rough patch it's still very convincing because of the flow of it, but some of that is also my ear growing into it as well and just getting used to how things sound with a different performer. I think the more I listen to the 3DAs the earlier I think Tim was hitting his stride and by now I think it was no later than the second boxset.
Chances are good this will sound quite a bit better on later listenings when I'll have heard it before and will probably be thinking more about listening to the story and less about excitedly wondering "How does he sound?"
I'm no less enthused about the 12th Doctor Chronicles over any of it, I enjoyed this quite a bit and likely I'll enjoy those too. It seemed like it was over too soon and I'm sure that's a good sign that I wished it had gone on longer. As with the Ninth Doctor Chronicles, I'm quite glad for the Twelfth Doctor to be at Big Finish.
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Post by Who Review on Sept 30, 2019 6:04:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 6:42:40 GMT
Downloaded last night, just started listening. Will give my take later.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 30, 2019 8:14:13 GMT
Good story Very good FX
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Post by Ian McArdell on Sept 30, 2019 8:31:36 GMT
Loved this... my take is up at CultBox.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 9:35:10 GMT
Now that is more like it!
For me a return to form for the range and a really enjoyable Short Trip to boot. Keeping my fingers crossed that the last three Trips will also tick all the boxes to warrant a sub to series 10.
While Jake's Twelve isn't his strongest, it was enough to carry me along for the duration of the tale. Certainly it was enough that I'm starting to warm to the idea of buying the Twelfth Doctor Chronicles next year..
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 30, 2019 15:13:55 GMT
I thought this was a great little story and a return to form in what’s been a lackluster year for the Short Trips. It’s weird and wonderful with a good framing device. I love this era for the Twelfth Doctor, so I’m glad to hear more from it.
I thought there were too many references in the beginning and end, which didn’t help cement Jacob Dudman’s Doctor. It seemed like a way to tell us that he is playing the Doctor, even if it doesn’t really sound like Peter Capaldi. After that passed, I actually thought he was fine. More like a Scottish take on the Tenth Doctor, rather than the Twelfth, but it’s not distracting. I still don’t quite see the need to use him, nor that he’s marketed as being The Doctor, but I’ve banged on about that enough and don’t want it to detract my thoughts on Dead Media.
Yeah, a great little story that shows what the Short Trips range is capable of.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 30, 2019 18:34:36 GMT
Have been looking forward to this all day... downloading now. Will be my evening listen.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Sept 30, 2019 20:02:17 GMT
That was a terrible attempt at 12.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 7:16:42 GMT
Couldn't be more impressed. A podcast worth recommending!
I know that not everybody would agree with me on this, but I personally feel that Jake Dudman made a really good effort at doing his Peter Capaldi vocal impression first time round, despite finding it "very daunting" to achieve. It's not always about capturing the voice itself, it's also about the speech patterns and rhythms. That's why the actors, whilst narrating a Short Trip or else, tend to deliver what they're able to achieve with how the respective characters were originally portrayed on screen, such as Patrick Troughton clearing his throat or Jon Pertwee going Hai!
Overall, I was fascinated by how the plotting and sound design successfully tackled upon the issue with outdated analogue media. Such a contemporary experiment!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 8:51:34 GMT
If Stephen Critchlow narrates them I will listen to them all
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Post by number13 on Oct 1, 2019 13:19:39 GMT
Enjoyed that, a Short Trip with a good concept which starts as a bit of fun, turns mysterious and ends sadly. And very well produced to create the strange audio entity.
I thought Jake Dudman's Twelve was very good. (If you want to hear a 'terrible attempt at 12' I'll do mine: 'Your faces - they're doing one of those 'people things' at me... d'you like my Twelve or d'you hate it, I can't tell. Or do you have really bad toothache... in both legs?' )
After this, I'm looking forward even more to the Chronicles!
(As a recent vinyl purchaser ('Death and the Queen') I'm not sure that any media is really 'dead' - sign me up for AV Club! 'The first rule of AV Club is: you do not record AV Club. The second rule of AV Club is: you don't play it back...' )
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Post by sherlock on Oct 1, 2019 13:57:45 GMT
That was quite good. A whimsical story with a sad twist at the end. This is my first time listening to any of Dudman’s impressions and it was alright. I’m not going to be rushing to buy the chronicles on the back of it though.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 1, 2019 17:02:30 GMT
I very much agree that this is more in line with how the Short Trips were produced under Ian Atkins. I'm not sure what Alfie's doing differently, but the majority of the Short Trips this year just haven't felt like they were working as well as they did before he took over. Here, though, it feels like we're back on track.
I have to say though, I was pretty out of the story for the vast majority of the time because of Jacob Dudman's "impression". I think I'm so used to hearing his impressions being almost dead on (I've listened to both the Tenth and Eleventh Doctor Chronicles) that hearing one that isn't really that close is very, very distracting. I might go thirty seconds before thinking "No, this definitely doesn't sound right", whereas I might have one of those moments once every fifteen or twenty minutes with his Tennant/Smith impressions. I think Capaldi's voice is just too deep for Dudman to pull off with any real accuracy. In a very rare case, I'm actually considering not getting the Twelfth Doctor Chronicles not because I don't want it, but because I don't think I'll be able to enjoy it. It might help with the narration breaking up the impression though, so I might still give it a go.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 1, 2019 19:35:03 GMT
Just finished this. Nice story. I would have preferred a bit more about St. Lukes and student life and professor life, to be honest. But I think I just expected something a bit more along the lines of "Girl Power!" from the Missy Chronicles. It was an okay effort. I still think that Dan Starkey (or even Christopher Walker- Thompson) might have been a better choice as impersonators... You know who it is supposed to be, but it is not terribly convincing. This still does not dissuade me from more of these 12th Doctor stories, however, since 12 is my favorite TV incarnation and I am desperate for new stories...
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Post by coffeeaddict on Oct 1, 2019 22:07:25 GMT
I very much agree that this is more in line with how the Short Trips were produced under Ian Atkins. I'm not sure what Alfie's doing differently, but the majority of the Short Trips this year just haven't felt like they were working as well as they did before he took over. Here, though, it feels like we're back on track. I have to say though, I was pretty out of the story for the vast majority of the time because of Jacob Dudman's "impression". I think I'm so used to hearing his impressions being almost dead on (I've listened to both the Tenth and Eleventh Doctor Chronicles) that hearing one that isn't really that close is very, very distracting. I might go thirty seconds before thinking "No, this definitely doesn't sound right", whereas I might have one of those moments once every fifteen or twenty minutes with his Tennant/Smith impressions. I think Capaldi's voice is just too deep for Dudman to pull off with any real accuracy. In a very rare case, I'm actually considering not getting the Twelfth Doctor Chronicles not because I don't want it, but because I don't think I'll be able to enjoy it. It might help with the narration breaking up the impression though, so I might still give it a go. Given how bad the attempt at doing 12 was, this is a case where frankly a straight read and no attempt to voice 12 would be preferable. I'm very concerned that the Chronicles set will leave me with much the same sense of dissatisfaction as the Short Trip did.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 1, 2019 22:27:16 GMT
Ok so my take on Accent.
A strange cross between a badly done Sean Connery and a decent Dennis Lawson [Wedge from Star Wars) so he was passable Scottish just Not close to Capaldi.
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