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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 21:50:08 GMT
Thanks all. I just think it is interesting to see how Who is perceived generally. Having said that, I do think Doctor Who does tend to attract these sorts of headlines. It is almost like the programme is seen as an easy target to project any manner of criticism at. People will see what they want to see, if they are that way inclined. I mean, with one of the bad guys in Spyfall being "Black" and another (The Master) being of Indian descent, people who want to see racism because both of the DW baddies were people of colour, will see it. Plus we had Nazi's thrown in to the mix and whatever way they play out somebody usually finds offence somewhere, so Jodie leaving the Master in their hands might not go down well in some circles. On the other hand some other people say the BBC are too PC and 'leftie'. (?) Basically, somewhere on the internet somebody will find something to gripe about in any Doctor Who episode, it's just the way the world is these days. So I ignore online articles that are basically click-bait and stay here in warm and cosy DU Land.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 22:31:36 GMT
Thanks all. I just think it is interesting to see how Who is perceived generally. Having said that, I do think Doctor Who does tend to attract these sorts of headlines. It is almost like the programme is seen as an easy target to project any manner of criticism at. People will see what they want to see, if they are that way inclined. I mean, with one of the bad guys in Spyfall being "Black" and another (The Master) being of Indian descent, people who want to see racism because both of the DW baddies were people of colour, will see it. Plus we had Nazi's thrown in to the mix and whatever way they play out somebody usually finds offence somewhere, so Jodie leaving the Master in their hands might not go down well in some circles. On the other hand some other people say the BBC are too PC and 'leftie'. (?) Basically, somewhere on the internet somebody will find something to gripe about in any Doctor Who episode, it's just the way the world is these days. So I ignore online articles that are basically click-bait and stay here in warm and cosy DU Land. Another thing to remember is that the articles are ultimately not about Doctor Who. Not really. They could use anything, any popular programme or film, and the result would be the same. It's just a platform for getting a less-than-glowing readership clicking through The Guardian and The Telegraph. Looking for other articles they can be mad at. I'm sure in a few weeks they'll have something on The Witcher. *taps nose* Stick with us, we're a lot better researched.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 10, 2020 1:17:55 GMT
No mention of Stephen Fry, gay icon being killed moments after his introduction? I love The Guardian, but this is just reaching. Didn’t even bother giving the Tele my click as it counts towards readership for them.
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Post by number13 on Jan 10, 2020 11:41:43 GMT
I couldn't care less which mainstream news/newspaper website I look at (or not) and they're welcome to count my 'click' if they want! So I was prepared to read the Guardian article and look at the first paragraph of the Telegraph article (the bit visible outside the paywall but it told me all I needed to know: familiar criticism.)
And now I have the pleasure of being able to disagree with both of them, equally and simultaneously and from opposite directions. I thought it was a great story with top casting and while there are minor points I could take issue with (of course) the only bit I really disliked was the end. Gallifrey? NOT AGAIN??
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jan 11, 2020 2:18:58 GMT
A bit surprised this hasn't got a lot of chatter so far: how's everyone feel that the Time Lord contact technique came back?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 2:42:15 GMT
A bit surprised this hasn't got a lot of chatter so far: how's everyone feel that the Time Lord contact technique came back? I liked it. I always thought it was an interesting quirk of Time Lord physiology (a psionic "tap" being considered part of a polite greeting on Gallifrey) and I really liked the séance vibe given to this latest interaction. I would've liked a line in there about why the séance method now, though. Something like it being a mutagenic ability only unlocked after your body's been scrambled by regeneration twelve (or so) times.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jan 11, 2020 3:22:42 GMT
Oh right: PLEASE can we get rid of the trope that "dimension" means "an entire separate reality." A dimension is a direction in which existence can happen. Height is a direction, not a place. Length is a direction, not a place. Width is a direction, not a place. Time is a direction (albeit of a different variety, it would appear), not a place.
Time kinda is a place though, since space/time are essentially one thing due to the effect of gravity. Agreed that that is not the same as an actual separate reality though.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 11, 2020 7:52:17 GMT
A bit surprised this hasn't got a lot of chatter so far: how's everyone feel that the Time Lord contact technique came back? That was a great idea, actually made me smile. I am surprised it did not come back earlier and now there is this glaring question why the Doctor has not used it earlier in NuWho. But it apart from that, I loved it.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jan 11, 2020 8:57:50 GMT
A bit surprised this hasn't got a lot of chatter so far: how's everyone feel that the Time Lord contact technique came back? That was a great idea, actually made me smile. I am surprised it did not come back earlier and now there is this glaring question why the Doctor has not used it earlier in NuWho. But it apart from that, I loved it. I'm guessing it hasn't been used because the Doctor was the only Time Lord for so long that it was never really needed. Also, whenever communication was needed with the Master in previous stories, they were fairly close at hand: in the vault, via phone or in the same building.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 11, 2020 10:15:50 GMT
That was a great idea, actually made me smile. I am surprised it did not come back earlier and now there is this glaring question why the Doctor has not used it earlier in NuWho. But it apart from that, I loved it. I'm guessing it hasn't been used because the Doctor was the only Time Lord for so long that it was never really needed. Also, whenever communication was needed with the Master in previous stories, they were fairly close at hand: in the vault, via phone or in the same building. I like that! Had not looked at it that way.
Still, they could have used it in Day of the Doctor for example, in hindsight, I am surprised they didn't.
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Post by mrperson on Jan 11, 2020 22:44:35 GMT
Oh right: PLEASE can we get rid of the trope that "dimension" means "an entire separate reality." A dimension is a direction in which existence can happen. Height is a direction, not a place. Length is a direction, not a place. Width is a direction, not a place. Time is a direction (albeit of a different variety, it would appear), not a place.
Time kinda is a place though, since space/time are essentially one thing due to the effect of gravity. Agreed that that is not the same as an actual separate reality though. I'm sticking with direction. The means to be in one place (as defined by the three spatial dimensions), then another. The direction that allows change in the state of things existing in space, though I do understand what you mean about space-time being being the unified reality via gravity.
But yeah, either way, it bugs me a bit that so much sci-fi uses "dimension" when they mean "parallel universe" or a similar thing. Not a big deal. But...eh... stop that!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 9:39:06 GMT
Watching it again, does anyone else think the inventor with the 'grenade for the home' is comedian Rob Newman? Can't see him listed in the credits.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jan 12, 2020 11:41:00 GMT
Oh right: PLEASE can we get rid of the trope that "dimension" means "an entire separate reality." And as with so many things, "The Ghosts of N-Space" is our fount of wisdom and sense:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 0:16:27 GMT
I'm guessing it hasn't been used because the Doctor was the only Time Lord for so long that it was never really needed. Also, whenever communication was needed with the Master in previous stories, they were fairly close at hand: in the vault, via phone or in the same building. I like that! Had not looked at it that way.
Still, they could have used it in Day of the Doctor for example, in hindsight, I am surprised they didn't.
Talking about hindsight, I decided to reread Gary Russell's novelisation of the TV Movie last night. It's got loads of little additions everywhere to flesh out the script, but guess how the Master summons the Doctor to Skaro? Apparently, under the right circumstances, you don't even have to be on the same planet as one another.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 15, 2020 14:54:36 GMT
28 days figure is 6.69 million.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 28, 2020 8:08:52 GMT
Bit tangential to this thread, but Noor Inayat Khan has received some overdue public recognition today-
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